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Regular Dakkanaut




Good to see you guys stay true as you can to what these should look like. Nice reference pics. Just staring and the ANIMA boards now. Want them so bad! My Dark Elves need to pillage a few Empire towns & Cities!!


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Lakewood, Ohio

Whether gamers can ink/paint their boards or not, I think you could have done something to pretty up that tile before showing it off, as it looks terrible like that.

The white street is jarring to look at, and takes away from the overall feel of the tile. I'm having trouble looking at the tile itself because the white doesn't mesh well with the rest of the tile and is a huge and prominent feature of the tile. Showing me well painted models on it shows me that either 1) you have someone in studio that can paint or 2) you know someone that can paint kind of sticks in my craw because it seems like you guys didn't put forth the effort to make that look as good as it could have. While I don't mind seeing unpainted models alongside painted models to show the difference (because a good paintjob can hide flaws in the model), it's like you want to show us a great project, but there is just something that falls flat in every picture. This board has that jarring section of white, the Hellscape was a single color with really nothing special about it, the Dropzone commander was really the only board that doesn't look like bad in the promotional photos, but to me that fell flat on its face when I saw it in person.

You can say that I'm just 1 person and your 'Hell Yeahs' or w/e prove otherwise, but I feel you're at a 6/10 because of your own efforts (or lack there of) but you could easily be an 8 or 9 out of 10 with just a little bit more effort...

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yeah,
I kinda like the honesty of showing tiles like you'll receive.
They could of course also (maybe during the KS) show some propainted tiles.

Panic...

   
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Melbourne .au

I have to concur with some of Alf's points. I'm one of the "Hell Yeahs" - and I'm giving feedback. Having voted in a "would you buy..." poll on Facebook doesn't exactly mean that I or anyone else automatically will love everything that is shown later.

That AT board is nice, but it's not great. I'd offer some feedback on it, but unfortunately it appears that you're not interested in genuine, constructive feedback from potential backers/customers? I happily spent $250 on Tablescapes (so far) and could potentially drop $2-400 on these if they were nice enough. I do agree with Alf again that the Anima board as shown above could easily go from a 6 to a 9 with a few modifications (aside from depth).


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 Panic wrote:
yeah,
I kinda like the honesty of showing tiles like you'll receive.
They could of course also (maybe during the KS) show some propainted tiles.

Panic...


They wouldn't need to be pro painted - I just think the paint choice on these ones is just a bit too jarring as displayed above. It looks quite unnatural.

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I have a genuine question for "backers" who apparently don't care about texture depth: why not just get a good quality printed mat or board instead?

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Richmond, VA

Holy crap that is exactly what I want.

Anyone who's asking for super bumpy over textured gaming boards must not actually play games.

The boards look like the perfect balance between detail and actual playability.

Kings of War city fighting, here I come!

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I agree with Joug Doug. Been pming the G&G guys a lot. Via facebook. I really want to see more of the ANIMA designs. I think these are perfect.

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Devon, UK

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have a genuine question for "backers" who apparently don't care about texture depth: why not just get a good quality printed mat or board instead?


Well, the last time I played using a mat, when I tried to place a model on the play area outside of the portion supported by the table it ended up in pieces on the floor.

Can't quite figure out what went wrong.....

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I think I accidentally deleted some of my previous post. So pming them. They said 100% playability was their focus. Which goes with Joug Dougs comments and my sentiments
I also agree with Panic, I like the honesty in how they look and they look damn hot!!
   
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 azreal13 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have a genuine question for "backers" who apparently don't care about texture depth: why not just get a good quality printed mat or board instead?


Well, the last time I played using a mat, when I tried to place a model on the play area outside of the portion supported by the table it ended up in pieces on the floor.

Can't quite figure out what went wrong.....


Yeah, he said mat OR BOARD. Boards don't bend. So your point is invalid. Hope that makes sense. Edited for clarity.

I agree with others, I think the "anima" board would look better with a different paint job. The fact that the main street part of it is painted in a very flat way really doesn't help.

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@darkeldarcrone, confirmed
Our battle boards are 100% focused and made to for gaming playability for the home, covention or store (check out our limited convention rewards approved by some amazing conventions and more to come), tons of detail and at the same time your miniatures don't tip or fall, even break. charges and miniature interaction should be super clean and we have now a terrain line to add more depth and texture. Games & Gears battle boards all come base painted. But if you want to change the color or add to it, you can do and create your own preferred color coded theme.

We love Kings of War... city fighting absolutely! cannot wait to see pictures of miniatures in battle over city fights! Agreed Judgedoug.


We do have an awesome professional painting studio who will paint these up and there is a limited reward that will cover that. So far so good, lot of people loving it and digging it. We cannot wait to bring this KS about .

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The paint job looks terrible but i realy like the board otherwise. Like the other board thow it suffers from no minor textures. So it can't be dry brushed. You need a airbrush to paint it well imo.
   
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@Lockark, there is a bit of love & hate here on the paint job. We will try and gauge that more. But overall feedback we are getting (note just here) is overwhelming good. Changing the paint job is not an issue if it does need to come to that. That said this are based painted and a good spray paint and some inking/drybrushing or airbrushing will do quick work to the get the color theme change you want.

   
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Lakewood, Ohio

GamesNGears wrote:
@Lockark, there is a bit of love & hate here on the paint job. We will try and gauge that more. But overall feedback we are getting (note just here) is overwhelming good. Changing the paint job is not an issue if it does need to come to that. That said this are based painted and a good spray paint and some inking/drybrushing or airbrushing will do quick work to the get the color theme change you want.

What's your reasoning for not having the bricks laid down in straight rows instead of the offset rows that you see in the real world? I think the brick aspects of the non-street section should be reworked, I don't think they look realistic at all...

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GamesNGears wrote:
@Lockark, there is a bit of love & hate here on the paint job. We will try and gauge that more. But overall feedback we are getting (note just here) is overwhelming good. Changing the paint job is not an issue if it does need to come to that. That said this are based painted and a good spray paint and some inking/drybrushing or airbrushing will do quick work to the get the color theme change you want.


you know I honestly just throught it was primed and then ink-washed to show the details.
I'll definitely be painting mine differently.
(I have a whole Medieval town's worth of the old resin Armorcast buildings and a dozen JR medieval buildings)
Can't wait to surround this board with the Warhammer castle and do a Kings of War siege and city fight!

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@Jougdoug, very cool. cannot wait to see your work on the Anima battle Board. This is what it is all about!!

   
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Somewhere in south-central England.

Were your reference pics shot in Rye? The street with the Mermaid Inn?

York has some very characteristic mediaeval buildings in The Shambles.

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Devon, UK

 Bull0 wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have a genuine question for "backers" who apparently don't care about texture depth: why not just get a good quality printed mat or board instead?


Well, the last time I played using a mat, when I tried to place a model on the play area outside of the portion supported by the table it ended up in pieces on the floor.

Can't quite figure out what went wrong.....


I agree with others, I think the "anima" board would look better with a different paint job. The fact that the main street part of it is painted in a very flat way really doesn't help.



Yeah, it's almost like I specifically mentioned one thing, without mentioning the other!

It took me seconds to spot the bolded part, while trying to figure out what connection the quote had to your post.

If you have a point, to save time, kindly just state it please.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Were your reference pics shot in Rye? The street with the Mermaid Inn?

York has some very characteristic mediaeval buildings in The Shambles.



Yes! Lovely place, the crew did go there and spent a day . We would recommend all to visit there! It is very inspiring and pretty cool place to be at. Hope they will take me next time too!

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UK

Spoiler:
 azreal13 wrote:
 Bull0 wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have a genuine question for "backers" who apparently don't care about texture depth: why not just get a good quality printed mat or board instead?


Well, the last time I played using a mat, when I tried to place a model on the play area outside of the portion supported by the table it ended up in pieces on the floor.

Can't quite figure out what went wrong.....


I agree with others, I think the "anima" board would look better with a different paint job. The fact that the main street part of it is painted in a very flat way really doesn't help.



Yeah, it's almost like I specifically mentioned one thing, without mentioning the other!

It took me seconds to spot the bolded part, while trying to figure out what connection the quote had to your post.

If you have a point, to save time, kindly just state it please.

No worries, next time I'll say "He said mat OR BOARD, a board would address the only problem you have with a mat, so what kind of post was that, hahahahahha"

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But I only mentioned the mat because that was relevant. But if you're going to insist on being a pedant, kindly find me a printed board, commercially available, which is available as a single 6' x 4' piece and not tiles a la the Realm Of Battle board from GW, which would still suffer the same potential toppling mishaps if set up on a table that allowed the degree of overhang that these boards are supposed to allow?

Printed board remember, not plastic or similar.

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 azreal13 wrote:
But I only mentioned the mat because that was relevant. But if you're going to insist on being a pedant, kindly find me a printed board, commercially available, which is available as a single 6' x 4' piece and not tiles a la the Realm Of Battle board from GW, which would still suffer the same potential toppling mishaps if set up on a table that allowed the degree of overhang that these boards are supposed to allow?

Printed board remember, not plastic or similar.

Sorry when someone says "Why not get a mat or board" and you say "Well mats bend!", the next response is clearly just "What about a board". You're the one that's moaning about wanting to save time - try answering the whole point instead of part of it. Adding additional constraints to the topic now and putting the onus on me to find you a commercial product that probably doesn't exist doesn't change that. What does it matter if it's all one sheet? I use 3 2x4s on a dining table. Works fine. No bending. Minis don't topple off at the edges. What does it have to do with you acting like "Mats bend" is a suitable counterargument to "Why not get a mat or a board"?

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Devon, UK

 Bull0 wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
But I only mentioned the mat because that was relevant. But if you're going to insist on being a pedant, kindly find me a printed board, commercially available, which is available as a single 6' x 4' piece and not tiles a la the Realm Of Battle board from GW, which would still suffer the same potential toppling mishaps if set up on a table that allowed the degree of overhang that these boards are supposed to allow?

Printed board remember, not plastic or similar.

Sorry when someone says "Why not get a mat or board" and you say "Well mats bend!", the next response is clearly just "What about a board". You're the one that's moaning about wanting to save time - try answering the whole point instead of part of it. Adding additional constraints to the topic now and putting the onus on me to find you a commercial product that probably doesn't exist doesn't change that. What does it matter if it's all one sheet? I use 3 2x4s on a dining table. Works fine. No bending. Minis don't topple off at the edges.


Really?

There's a chap at my club who had a whole bunch of Historicals in need of repair due to flippage using that exact same system. All it took was one chap to absentmindedly place a rulebook on the "table" edge.

I'm aware that boards do not behave like mats, which is why I addressed only mats in my response. The fact you felt compelled to address this is speaking more to your apparent predilection for nit picking and picking fights than any flaws in my logic.

Continue shouting at the wall if you like, we're done for now.

Still waiting for an example of that commercially available, printed board btw.

(I can go back and edit my posts if I think of something clever to add too!!)

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UK

Spoiler:
 azreal13 wrote:
 Bull0 wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
But I only mentioned the mat because that was relevant. But if you're going to insist on being a pedant, kindly find me a printed board, commercially available, which is available as a single 6' x 4' piece and not tiles a la the Realm Of Battle board from GW, which would still suffer the same potential toppling mishaps if set up on a table that allowed the degree of overhang that these boards are supposed to allow?

Printed board remember, not plastic or similar.

Sorry when someone says "Why not get a mat or board" and you say "Well mats bend!", the next response is clearly just "What about a board". You're the one that's moaning about wanting to save time - try answering the whole point instead of part of it. Adding additional constraints to the topic now and putting the onus on me to find you a commercial product that probably doesn't exist doesn't change that. What does it matter if it's all one sheet? I use 3 2x4s on a dining table. Works fine. No bending. Minis don't topple off at the edges.


Really?

There's a chap at my club who had a whole bunch of Historicals in need of repair due to flippage using that exact same system. All it took was one chap to absentmindedly place a rulebook on the "table" edge.

I'm aware that boards do not behave like mats, which is why I addressed only mats in my response. The fact you felt compelled to address this is speaking more to your apparent predilection for nit picking and picking fights than any flaws in my logic.

Continue shouting at the wall if you like, we're done for now.



No, I pointed out a simple flaw in your logic and you got pissy because it "took a long time" to derive my point. Nobody's shouting at you; way to go ad-hominem. Sure, we're done. Suits me fine.

*edit* Made it really clear I don't see what the relevance of "Find me X commercial product" has in terms of "Why do you think "Why not use X or Y" "Because X bends" is a suitable answer", it's just a diversionary tactic, if you're waiting I'd recommend not holding your breath

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Starting a new slate:

I think points and concerns have been made and raised very clearly several times here repeatedly. Thank you and well noted!! But we want to move on kindly now thanks again.

In a few hours we will show the world the Anime Wars battle board!! Incoming and we are excited. More Games & Gears Warmsith Terrian line to come in the days and weeks to come to kit out your Games & Gears battle boards!

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GamesNGears wrote:
Starting a new slate:

I think points and concerns have been made and raised very clearly several times here repeatedly. Thank you and well noted!! But we want to move on kindly now thanks again.

In a few hours we will show the world the Anime Wars battle board!! Incoming and we are excited. More Games & Gears Warmsith Terrian line to come in the days and weeks to come to kit out your Games & Gears battle boards!


very excited, you guys have already sold me on the ANIMA board for fantasy stuff, if the sci fi board can be used for Robotech then I'll be double happy.

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GamesNGears wrote:
Starting a new slate:

I think points and concerns have been made and raised very clearly several times here repeatedly. Thank you and well noted!! But we want to move on kindly now thanks again.

In a few hours we will show the world the Anime Wars battle board!! Incoming and we are excited. More Games & Gears Warmsith Terrian line to come in the days and weeks to come to kit out your Games & Gears battle boards!


Ditto! There is an army behind you G&G just get your KS up and running! Keep up the great work. If the anime board is as good as the rest in I am in for that one too.
   
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Sneak peaks:







From our Facebook Page :

Games & Gears Anime Wars base painted Battle Boards.

Here are the first sneak peaks of our Anime Wars Battle Board! This will come in 4 initial 24" inches by 24" inches designs and 2 more to be unlocked via our Games & Gears Kickstarter to a total of 6 designs for your gaming pleasure. The Anime Wars Battle Board will be a 6 by 4 Games & Gears battle board. Giving you 6 unique designs that go together in various combos for your 4by4 and 6 by 4 games.

The first two designs you see are we call "Cargo Rooms" & the "Core Reactor" of course you can name them as you wish. Our Games & Gears Warsmith Terrain line will have Sci Walls available to give the 4 rooms you see with the hexagon panels to bring it full to life, which will be showcased during our Kickstater. Other Games & Gears Warsmith Sci-Fi Terrain product lines will compliment this Anime Wars battle board.

Whether you play Relic Knights, Warhammer 40,000, Robotech, Infinity and other Sci-Fi games with super detail and texture.

- Games & Gears battle boards are designed with 100% miniature war games play-ability in mind. Where the actual texture is NOT an obstruction for your miniatures. To add greater depth we have our up and coming high resin detailed Warsmith Terrain line to add to the Games & Gears battle boards to give you awesome visuals and a great game play experience. You can also add your own collection of your terrain to your Games & Gears battle boards.

- All Games & Gears Battle Boards can be interlocked with each other.

- You can also add Games & Gears Gaming trays to keep your gaming accessories at hand and also place your casualties there, you can also deploy your miniatures from the Games & Gears Gaming trays.

- Play on the Games & Gears Battle Board without rolling dice on them by using our Games & Gears Felt Dice tray. So you just roll your dice in a slick and clear way for both you and your opponents to see the results!

It's been a long journey to get this ready for our Kickstarter launch. We very much thank you for your stern patience and faith in us. You are the G&G community and your countless messages of support have spurred us on. As we have got all the niggling bits of pre production mostly out the way we need your support to hit the mass production button and deliver these to you on time and without delay via your pledge.

-First 1400 Kickstarter backer to get their battle boards within 3-4.5 months after the end of our Kickstater.
We will try and get this down to 2.5-3 months. The rest of our awesome backers after the initial 1400 kickstarter backers will get their battle boards on the 5 month from the end of the Kickstater and we will try to get that down to 4 months if we can. We aim to insure you do not have to wait so long for your Games & Gears Battle Boards. Good price, good quality and deliver on time is our creed and we stand by it.

Thank you for being with us on the long journey, it is time to change the gaming experience for the better, your pledge will enable us to do a lot more and bring more our community you.

Sincerely,

Da Crew
....

Cannot wait to add the Games & Gears Warsmith Sci Fi Terrian on this bad boy!

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My reservations about texture depth stand, but the designs are pretty nice.

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