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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 18:59:23
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Kovnik
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We will still have to see, but I have been bitten by the p&m bug so now everything I do gets cataloged. I am going out to play some warmachine/hordes tonight though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 19:47:03
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@nafarious, clean the table with your opponent, then be like "anybody can win with these models" then take the money the first person gives you and buy your blood angels
@comrade,  that line might work on nerdfest, but these raiders are staying put.
One side completed, black and yellow highlighted, might hit the leadbelcher with a bit of chain mail. The flgs stop was a bust. They had tons of stuff, and. Might go there more often, but nothing called out to me. Especially the centurion stacks they had there.
I'm at this point where discussing the Scythes of the Emperor I realized I have way more models Han I need for my chapter. At mos the scythes have 180 marines left. Now I could just keep building them and I'll eventually have the full chapter again. Right around the year 40k when they are fully restored to strength. OR I could build a second marine army with what I have  , the only question is who to build?
Either way I've got plenty of me to decide who they will be.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 20:48:40
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You're not going to have a looted Baneblade? All Marine players seem to have one nowadays
Guard only use Marine vehicles for target practice on field maneuvers
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 02:40:50
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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dsteingass wrote:You're not going to have a looted Baneblade? All Marine players seem to have one nowadays
Guard only use Marine vehicles for target practice on field maneuvers 
At $140.00 I think not  , think the forgeworld ones might be cheaper
Finished the drop pod
Hopefully it's up to everyone's approval. Now to find something else to paint  I think I have a volunteer, its what happens when something sits on the desk too long.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 02:43:01
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Did they really raise the price $40!??
Drop pod's looking ace!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/06 02:43:50
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 03:13:18
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Thanks dave
Yeah, it just got bumped a couple months back with the new apocalypse book. It now has the option to do both the bane blade and storm lord boxes, so 8 possible builds in the box. I think they did it so to cut the sales of it to hurt people like machinator who sell conversion bits for it. Or just to pump sales of the forgeworld variants  .
Holding off on buying anything big for now. Might buy a mini leviathan when they hit the shelves, but so far no one has them except WGF, and they don't have their buy three and get 15% off anymore from what I see.
Okay, so a bike under coated, I honk they might just become all black or all yellow what do you guys think? Or one color for troopers and one for characters?
Also, iron man joins the team, why???..........why not?
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 07:55:45
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Hmmm...wouldn't iron man be a most excellent proxy for a dreadknight? And if so...then the next chapter would be cool to include this model as it then could be a bunch of fancy schmancy grey knights? Of course not JUST grey but with a cool paintscheme of course
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 10:12:35
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Iron Man or Ceramite Genetically Enhanced Man?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 11:53:54
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Drop pod looks good.
No weathering / scorch marks?
If your bikes became all black that might be a bit too Ravenwing-like...
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 12:25:13
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think they just put the stormlord sprues into the same box. GW has a LOT of active SKUs all the time. But $40?? You'll always have extra turrets and superstructure bitz, great for conversions etc. But if you decided to build a unit of 3, you'd have a lot of spare parts.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 12:38:05
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@dr. H, no weathering  , I haven't gotten brave enough for that yet. Maybe when I get the whole shebang done then I'll go and do that. Good call on the monotone as well. I'll have to keep playing around with the pattern.
@ruglud, yes definitely genetically enhanced and in an armored shell.
@vik, I could kiss you.....except of course you in Germany and I'm here....we're both men....married....balding....Internet high five instead? I've been wanting to do counts as grey knights, but couldn't think of an idea, the mini leviathans were always part of that plan. Here's Valhallan42nd picture of his mini leviathan crusader 15mm scale on an oval base with other models to compare.
Now thanks to Vik, with an assist from Ruglud with the word "ceramic". I think I have a cunning plan. Another not to well known chapter of space marines that also fits the iron man concept, which could be why all the suits give the wearers extra powers, hence the grey knights. The only thing scaring me about doing these guys is the colors, I'll swing by the flgs this morning to pick up what I don't have color wise.
I've always struggled with white, and not a fan of green either, but lets give it a try
The other option I wanted to do of grey knights was a play on he name and to the Gay Knights. Assaulting the morality of this world with their hot pink armor and possibly feather boas  . But that might be insensitive
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 13:04:26
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ah, adventure Mentor legion there's a colour scheme
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 15:44:23
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Kovnik
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Haha Theo it didn't go so well. First game it was a 43 models against my 18... and he cleaned the floor with my caster. Second game I was playing against minions and I almost won but I made a mistake that cost me the game.
Your space marines are coming along though!
I have a friend selling me 6 assault marines for 10$ because he is a friend, and so I am going to take those, model them fantastically and make them look awesome. And then work on the rest of the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 18:39:20
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@graven, adventure? Not sure what you meant by that unless you mean this will be an adventure, which it always is
@nafarious, well I'm sorry to hear about your losses, but that's a heck of a steal on the figs  .
Just got a call for another interview. Might not pay as much, but its in retail, which I actually love. Plus it's walking distance from my house, so no gas or vehicle wear. Interview is in a couple hours. I probably wouldn't have to clean up other people's bodily fluids either, or not as often. It would also be better hours than nights, and weekends. Here's hoping.
On another front I took my care for an oil change, long overdue  , but then they showed me my radiator hose about to burst, and my rear brakes  . Well who needed that $400.00. I'll just tell my kids that were turning atheist and won't be celebrating Christmas after all.
They finished the repairs, and are on their way to pick me up at home. Luckily my wife went to school with the owners wife so we get parts at cost and minimal labor. He saved me $200.00 off the regular price.
Iron man is done, except for some magnetizing and add on equipment. Pics later, if I'm able between the interview, and school tonight.
Edit:
Iron scythe
Shoulder cannon
Shoulder magnet
Missile pod
Big daddy cannon
Still working on big daddy cannon magnets.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/06 18:48:59
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 19:20:57
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Good Luck!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 19:49:26
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Thanks dave I appreciate it  .
Luck so far is going both directions today. First the car bill  then the interview  , now i check the mailbox before going out the door to find this.
New product from poweredplay gaming  , even better it was all given to me by the owners as I used their stuff to light up my leviathan and got a few others to order from them as well  I'm cunning like that. They had used the leviathan on their site too. So they sent m the new switch set/alpha kit, the new fiber optics sampler kit, and two new batteries. This is huge
Thanks Chris and Chris
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 20:18:04
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Good luck with the interview.
Be interesting to see what you light up next then.
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Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 20:27:06
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Good luck with the interview and I hope everything works out for you Theo :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 20:32:09
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@dr. H, thanks, and I have mad mad plans for the lights
@nafarious, thanks, everything will be fine, I just have to keep positive. The janitor job will be fine either way, but I'd rather get this other job because of schedules and closeness to home.
Waiting for the interview now. Will let you all know afterwards. You'll probably get an answer before my wife  , as she'll be in a meeting after school.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 21:08:37
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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With your DIY retail experience, you should have no problems.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 21:29:02
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Well, started my working experience in retail , so I am biased about it...when I m concerned I'd rather clean bodily fluids than sell any yogurt to anyone... But if you love it I wish you all the best
 kissing might indeed produce a help lot of new problems in our lifes...maybe when the kids are all grown up?
We recently had to kiss our car good bye...the outstanding repairs would have costed us too much so now we are fulltime pedestrians again... In Berlin an option that is actually viable...in the United states of A probably not likley...
The grey knight chapter scheme reminds me of the eldar biel'tan scheme...  so you will have quite some xenophobian elves in powerarmor  joking here as I would like to see that scheme done by you...bright green and off white or more dreamlike white...probably something dashingly good-looking I am sure!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 21:33:27
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Good luck brother. And Mentors are a hard scheme, it's part of why I delayed tackling mine so long  loving your GKs.
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 22:08:30
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@graven, I've seen some cool mentor legion stuff out there including an all left handed army  .
@vik, the pedestrian lifestyle could happen, but less people would go to church, because even though there's one on each corner, it would always be a different faith than what you are
@dsteingass, experience isn't the problem, its pay. I have all the skills, but they could hire two part timers for almost the same as a full timer, and not have to do benefits. We'll see with obamacare  .
Interview went well. He knows a couple of my former bosses, ones his best friend. He knows I have the skills, but pay is the problem, plus its only part time, No benefits, and they are going into the slow time o the year. They'll let me know by the weekend. Unfortunately I start the other job on Saturday,so if they could get me the pay and the hours, I'll be burning the other job.
I'll most likely be a janitor, no problem either way. Thanks for your best wishes and prayers.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 23:35:47
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Best of luck, not that you need it by the sounds of it.
As to models all looking brilliant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 00:21:10
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dude, where have you been for the past 15 years?? Companies have been doing that crap long before ACA was a thought. You really don't want to see that do you? YOU and I paid good tax money already to pay those companies to screw us.
I don't know about St. Louis area, but around here, NO new homes have been built, only new/expanded hospitals and Insurance company buildings have been constructed in the past 10 years. Wall St. writes their own legislation and funds political campaigns on both sides and gets OUR tax money to ship jobs overseas and pay Executives 330 times the salaries they got paid a decade before. I don't see how a man as intelligent as yourself can TRULY believe that this Healthcare stuff is to blame?? Unless you listen to Talk Radio or Fox News, in that case, you're REALLY duped my friend.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 05:53:19
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@cam, thanks, on both fronts
@dave, oh I know how bad its been, and how the pharmaceutical companies and wall street have ruined America, just saying about the blight that obamacare is/will be. Some of the people I know from church wok at other hospitals, and hey are more in the know than I am, an hey are worried. I am so disconnected from news radio it's sad  I actually get more world news from you guys
Well, decided to basecoat something else before bed.
A beat up peeler getting repurposed along with rocket pods from a dust tactics walker. Will work more on it tomorrow. It also has a squad mate, but I had boxed the colors in different on it and didn't like the looks, so it will get redone as well.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 12:36:33
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like those DUST rocket tubes on top!
I worked at a hospital for 5 years, I attended numerous meetings and conferences and Joint Commission inspections, Hospitals (at least the small town one I worked at, mostly populated by old people) get 80% of their revenue from Medicare and Medicaid. They don't get paid when people get sick and go bankrupt and head into financial ruin because they can't pay their bills. Profiting on sick and dying people is just wrong dude. It's no different than owning all the water in town and letting people die of thirst because they can't pay for it.
Healthcare, like Road repair is an economic bads-good, meaning it should be handled by Governments because when handled by for-profit shareholder boards, greed ruins it for the customers. And dying customers is bad for business.
About 15 years ago, the Ohio Turnpike was handed over to a private firm, as a result, that is now the crappiest stretch of road in the entire state. Half of the rest stops/service plazas are gone now too.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 13:14:11
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Dave...High five over the ocean for that statement...
I think actual profit is only really not a-moral where luxury is involved...everything day to day related should be self providing/upholding in my view...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 16:39:06
Subject: Re:Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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First bumblebee is done, except for crew and weapons
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 17:09:44
Subject: Going down. Scythes of the emperor Titan complete (leviathan/warhound)
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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We the people subscribing to your thread demand a way to get better pics...the lighting currently kills so much effort on your part...your highlights deserve more spotlight...  ...( lol...bumblebee always get me to smile  )
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