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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/04/16 18:45:23
Subject: Re:Final Star Trek: Into Darkness Trailer
I haven't really understood any of the trailers for the new star trek - all quick flashes of dozens of different scenes.
That said, does the new, bigger looking starfleet ship have any counterpart in the original timeline? I believe there was a Federation class battleship in TOS if I'm not mistaken.
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
The starship on the right is certainly more ST: TNG style.
Also, there goes my (and most other people's) Khan theory...
Well, there are still clues in the trailer that point to that theory still being viable:
Spoiler:
There is a scene where they are leaving a room full of what looks like frozen tubes. So they may have found Khan frozen in one of them. So it could still be him. But remember that in the alternative universe we are in now everything about Khan post-thawing could be very different.
And it looks like there is talk about this being a Dreadnaught class ship. Looking through the little wikis out there it seems that there was talk of a Dreadnaught class ship (with a spec-drawing) in Star Trek II and a picture of one in a training room (not looking like that though) and by Star Trek III they appear to have folded into the Federation Class of ships and it might not be an Enterprise. So in the old timeline it appears that there were Dreadnaught ships available (or at least in development) during the Khan timeline.
Of course II also featured a Starfleet Ship vs Starfleet Ship battle between Kirk & Khan, so there is that. And the rumor mills are point to the title card in the trailer as being a hint as well:
The tagline (via title cards) makes that clear but also includes Star Trek’s core message of hope “This Summer – Beyond The Darkness – Lies Greatness.”
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Well could it be that the trailer has yet another clue (and I’m not talking about those cryo-tubes). The original Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan trailer contains a voice over which starts “Beyond the darkness, beyond the human evolution…is Khan..” Watch it.
Which would be the Federation class prototype right?
Spoiler:
It was the first Federation Transwarp prototype (which failed) and later had a normal warp core installed and became the Excelsior Class (Sulu's ship in VI)
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
2013/04/17 12:51:08
Subject: Re:Final Star Trek: Into Darkness Trailer
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Is the mystery ship only seen from the side angle? I'd watch the trailer but for some reason watching Youtube clips keeps crashing my broadband connection after 40 seconds or so.
From the image posted I'd say it looks vaguely like the Enterprise C with elongated nacelles.
RossDas wrote: Is the mystery ship only seen from the side angle? I'd watch the trailer but for some reason watching Youtube clips keeps crashing my broadband connection after 40 seconds or so.
From the image posted I'd say it looks vaguely like the Enterprise C with elongated nacelles.
Nah, the C had a 'neck' like the D between the saucer and engineering section.
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
One trap not to fall into is expecting "ships from the future," if it is indeed from the future, in this Star Trek franchise to look like ST:TNG or ST:V. With the timeline changed, any number of things could change that influenced the design of the ships (Also, artistic license from the new producer, director, etc).
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AduroT wrote: Did that ship appear to have Railguns on it?
Or something similar, yes.
It did seem to, yes. My thought was that maybe they used the tech from the Romulan/Borg ship from the first film, but then I remembered that it was caught in some sort of an antimatter black hole so I don't think there would be much of it left.
If you can't watch the youtube version of the trailer you can always try Trailer Addict, and yes, it is only shown from the side.
Good catch on the Wrath of Khan trailer parallel, though it may just be an homage in the end.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
They could have build an entirely new prototype super ship with recovered future tech from the Narada? They did blow chunks of it off before it was consumed by the black hole.
This is a stupidly rejigged alternative past, so all bets are off.
One trap not to fall into is expecting "ships from the future," if it is indeed from the future, in this Star Trek franchise to look like ST:TNG or ST:V. With the timeline changed, any number of things could change that influenced the design of the ships (Also, artistic license from the new producer, director, etc).
Spoiler:
my initial thought was "wtf, enterprise?". But thinking over the old movies there were already prototypes of super-heavy ships by this time. So it could be any of those ships."
I do have to say that they did a good job with the trailers and previews. Definitely get you fired up.
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