Final Star Trek: Into Darkness Trailer

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**reds8n**

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/04/24/star-trek-into-darkness-new-fx-shot-of-dreadnought-class-federation-warship-a/

Revealed by the official Star Trek Movie app, and then posted in high res at TrekMovie.com, a great image of that new ship we saw in the latest trailer for Star Trek Into Darkness.

According to the site, it’s the USS Vengeance, a Dreadnought-class ship.

**Frazzled**

Thats mean looking. It looks armored and not flimsy like other Fed ships at all. Me likey.

Almost like GW got a hold of the enterprise...

**djones520**

I like the name of the ship as well. Very to the point of what it was designed for.

**AduroT**

The donut saucer is interesting as well. I wonder what purpose that serves.

**Frazzled**

djones520 wrote:
I like the name of the ship as well. Very to the point of what it was designed for.

Always wanted to see the USS Imgonnakillyousucka

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AduroT wrote:
The donut saucer is interesting as well. I wonder what purpose that serves.

Donut saucer? Can you clarify?

**djones520**

He's talking about the big hole in the middle, the one you can see the stars through.

**Fezman**

I'm looking forward to this film a great deal, but I have one reservation: if it's like a lot of high-profile big budget films I've seen over the last few years, I expect there will be many instances of obvious plot holes, the writers making up the rules as they go along, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the last one and I own it, but even then there were some plot issues that still annoy me when I watch it (you've probably read most of these in some form or other already):

Spoiler:

-First of all, the villain's stupidity. He travelled back in time after Romulus was destroyed and sets about...declaring a one-man war on the Federation. Why not just warn the Romulans, or at least be shown to have made a token effort to do so? This gets even worse if you read the tie-in "Countdown" comic which establishes that yes, he may well blame the Federation for not acting quickly enough to save his world but he's now in a time when that hasn't happened yet.
-The treatment of black holes. They took the "hole" part way too literally. OK, it was some sort of special black hole made up for the film but why not just follow in the good old Trek tradition and call it something like a "spatial anomaly?"
-The Kobayashi Maru scene. I find this part highly annoying, they could have been more subtle about it (or even showed any subtlety at all). I though that they would show Kirk cheating in a way that wasn't glaringly obviously, for example reducing the durability and weapon damage fo the enemy ships in the simulation juuuust enough to scrape by and make his victory look like a fluke. Instead the power dips for a moment and afterwards he easily one-shots the enemy, and no-one has the sense to point out that he blatantly cheated.
-The big space thingie that was destroyed Romulus. It is described as endangering the galaxy, then the universe. Which is it (if it's the universe, that's silly IMO)?
-Spock shoots Kirk out of the Enterprise in a pod on to a planet where he'll likely die, thus completely ignoring the idea of the brig, which has been used in Star Trek for decades (but hey, they have to move the plot forward even if it means Spock acting like a regulation-defying lunatic)
-Future Spock watches as Vulcan is destroyed from the surface of his hideout planet (OK, maybe this scene was not meant to be taken literally, but the writers didn't make that clear enough if so).
-Referring to Klingon ships as warbirds (NERD RAGE! though maybe the alternate timeline thing led to this name being applied to Klingon ships instead).

So, I will certainly see the film first chance I get, and I expect to have a good time. I just hope the writers don't take "science fiction" to mean "make up any old stuff as you go along."

**RossDas**

AduroT wrote:
The donut saucer is interesting as well. I wonder what purpose that serves.

There seems to be something in the middle of it; if it's a weapon then the hole might serve to allow it to aim either side of the saucer/bagel.

**Frazzled**

djones520 wrote:
He's talking about the big hole in the middle, the one you can see the stars through.

Is that a hole or just how the light is "reflecting." I'm seeing a nice hunky center there. I could be wrong though.

**djones520**

RossDas wrote:
AduroT wrote:
The donut saucer is interesting as well. I wonder what purpose that serves.

There seems to be something in the middle of it; if it's a weapon then the hole might serve to allow it to aim either side of the saucer/bagel.

I think it's the bridge. Centrally located on the saucer is the usual MO for Federation ships.

**Frazzled**

Ok if true thats weird, yet cool.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Frazzled wrote:
Thats mean looking. It looks armored and not flimsy like other Fed ships at all. Me likey.

Almost like GW got a hold of the enterprise...

I like it too, but I don't agree with your GW assessment... not nearly enough skulls

And it looks like there is a phallic looking cannon on the neck of this ship, with a definite "hole" in the central area of the saucer section.

One thing that has always bugged me with Star Trek (and really all sci fi movies) is the disconnect between the size of the exterior of the ship, and the interior of the ship... On interior shots, it looks as though there are thousands and thousands of crew, but then you see a shot from the outside, and the shuttle takes up most of the bay door area, which is literally half the ship's backside... wtf

**djones520**

Depends. Voyager was roughly the same size as the new Gerald Ford class carrier, something that will have about 2,000 people on it.

Voyager had a crew of 140ish.

**Black Lantern**

I. Cannot. Wait. To watch this movie

**reds8n**

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/01/first-look-at-a-jj-abrams-style-klingon-without-his-mask-on/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

We’ve known for a long time that there are Klingons in Star Trek Into Darkness. Nobody’s mentioned them much lately, though. Not entirely sure why. All part of John Harrison’s JJ Abrams’ sinister masterplan, maybe.

But a new promo video for the film has included a brief clip of one without his mask-helmet on. This is the first image of a Nu Trek Klingon face to be released, so it’s probably no accident that it’s so fleeting.
They would seem to have gone more for the ‘stitched up with strings of leather’ than ‘cornish pasty’ look. Almost a shame they wear the masks at all, really.

Star Trek Into Darkness is out in the UK next Thursday, May 9th. The US release follows just over a week later, on the 17th. You can expect our review of the film… well, pretty soon, actually.

**Medium of Death**

Not enough beard on that Klingon.

The donut shape is quite interesting. I think the thing in the middle will be elevated slightly and will end up being the bridge... or a deathray of some sort.

**gorgon**

So regarding Cumberbatch's identity...

Spoiler:

**Frazzled**

Then whats with the Klingons?

**Agent_Tremolo**

djones520 wrote:
RossDas wrote:
AduroT wrote:
The donut saucer is interesting as well. I wonder what purpose that serves.

There seems to be something in the middle of it; if it's a weapon then the hole might serve to allow it to aim either side of the saucer/bagel.

I think it's the bridge. Centrally located on the saucer is the usual MO for Federation ships.

Looks like it!. If you look closely you'll see some structure raising from the "neck", through the hole and over the saucer.

Such a blocky, angular design is strange for a Federation ship, but I can't say I don't like it. It screams "dreadnought" all over the place.

**reds8n**

.. you know the bit about them being outgunned etc etc from the trailer ?

yyeeaahh seeing that now then !

**kronk**

IMAX 3D! Yes!

**Gitzbitah**

The poster needs more lens flare- or perhaps I'm just not seeing it through the coherent awesome leaking out of that shot.

**Frazzled**

Wait that can't be right. They've made that dreadnought in the poster to be 2-3 miles long. If the federation could make ships that big they'd kick the crap out of the Klingons, Romulan, well everyone in the Alpha Quadrant.

Now that I think about it, sounds like a plan. Terran Star Empire here we come!

I do like the idea that, that is not Khan but Joacham trying to "reactivate" Khan. Come on guys Ricardo Montalban was just too perfect in that role.

Maybe in New Trek we'll come to find out Kirk is really the grandson of a genetically enhanced dude or something weird.

**dogma**

Frazzled wrote:
Wait that can't be right. They've made that dreadnought in the poster to be 2-3 miles long. If the federation could make ships that big they'd kick the crap out of the Klingons, Romulan, well everyone in the Alpha Quadrant.

It is a reboot.

Though the size difference is probably just for dramatic effect. There has been a lot of that surrounding this movie.

**Kanluwen**

I'm quite excited for "Into Darkness".
Abrams did not let me down with the first movie, and I doubt he will with the second.

**gorgon**

I'm really looking forward to this one too. I love what Abrams has done...it's like he's taken all the old ingredients but is running them through the blender and seeing how the stories change.

I suppose I'm biased as an original series fan who always thought the later series (other than some moments from DS9) and a number of the movies were remarkably stale and stagnant. So although Abrams is ditching a lot of the traditional formula and feel and p*ssing off a lot of Trek fans, in some ways I feel like it's the closest thing we've had yet to the original series. The galaxy feels wilder, weirder and newer again, and the ship and crew are flying much more by the seat of their pants than the Enterprise D/E, Voyager, etc.

**Frazzled**

I'm down with that BUT
1. I don't want Khan messed with. Ricardo do too good a job to reprise him.

2. I'd rather they slowed down a little bit. Its resplendent of all the popcorn movies now. They've forgotten the greatness of pauses in action. Allow for some acting. Nonstop pow pow pow gets exhausting.

3. I'd be fine if they never did anything other than mention klingons for a long long time. I'm sick to death of klingons. Seriously, they were in what six movies? Come on dude...

**reds8n**

Might be of interest

http://io9.com/10-biggest-missed-opportunities-in-star-trek-history-494004107

http://io9.com/5721854/ralph-mcquarries-lost-concept-art-for-a-star-trek-movie-in-1976+1977/

some of the concept drawings are different to say the least.

**Frazzled**

Mifune as a Klingon? That would have been epic: either EPIC! or Epic Fail!

Those concept drawings suck balls though.

**Ahtman**

I've seen those before; it is hard to forget the triangle Enterprise.