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 jpwyrm wrote:
That is quite strange indeed. I don't use oil paints myself so I won't be of much helps I'm afraid...
Could it be humidity level or temperature in your area? Like you said though, this could be a happy accident to use for future projects

You check this blog out :http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.com

Those guys are awesome artists and they're quite friendly too. Maybe they'll be able to help you.

Cheers!

Thanks for the reply and link jpwtrm , I'll maybe msg them and see what they think.

I personally think the gloss varnish wasn't properly cured , it looks for all the world like I put paint remover or cellulose thinners on the surface rather than the top layer of dull coat. So I'm thinking there was some kind of chemical reaction going on .

It would look pretty good for Nurgle vehicles however , if I can only manage to do it in the right places .........

Make sure you try it out on sprues or something before you go on actual models!

 jpwyrm wrote:
Make sure you try it out on sprues or something before you go on actual models!

Where's the "Fun" in that !

Sorry mate, no idea... Never used that technique, so I can't help... Though it doesn't look as bad on the pic as in your description

 Yggdrasil wrote:
Sorry mate, no idea... Never used that technique, so I can't help... Though it doesn't look as bad on the pic as in your description

To be honest , at table distance away you wouldn't notice , BUT I WILL KNOW !

The tanks look amazing! Really love how you've painted them, love the devastators as well!

 Big H wrote:

 Yggdrasil wrote:
Sorry mate, no idea... Never used that technique, so I can't help... Though it doesn't look as bad on the pic as in your description

To be honest , at table distance away you wouldn't notice , BUT I WILL KNOW !

Ok I understand that feeling... Just like painting the hard to reach, unnoticeable details on a model... Yeah, no one will know... But you !

Happy accident indeed. I think the crackling looks freaking great. Ultra realistic land raider FTW!

 Glaiceana wrote:
The tanks look amazing! Really love how you've painted them, love the devastators as well!

Thank you , only took 12 months on and ( mostly ) off ! Notice , its still not finished.....


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 Yggdrasil wrote:

 Big H wrote:

 Yggdrasil wrote:
Sorry mate, no idea... Never used that technique, so I can't help... Though it doesn't look as bad on the pic as in your description

To be honest , at table distance away you wouldn't notice , BUT I WILL KNOW !

Ok I understand that feeling... Just like painting the hard to reach, unnoticeable details on a model... Yeah, no one will know... But you !

Absolutely , also what about leaving off weapons / arms so you can get behind ? Nothing wrong with that eh ?


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 bebopdrums2424 wrote:
Happy accident indeed. I think the crackling looks freaking great. Ultra realistic land raider FTW!

Thanks buddy , its just frustrating as I'm not actually 100% sure how it happened or I'd be doing on my Nurgle stuff ..... !

hat brand of varnish did you use to seal the paint before you applied the oil wash? You definitely have a chemical reaction between the two going on there.

ephrael wrote:
hat brand of varnish did you use to seal the paint before you applied the oil wash? You definitely have a chemical reaction between the two going on there.

My thoughts exactly mate, once upon a time , in between good jobs, I worked in a spray bay that painted agricultural machinery / lorries etc. It looked the same to me as if the paint was reacting or I'd spilt cellulose thinners on it.

The varnish under the oil wash wash was a can of aerosol Humbrol Enamel gloss varnish , then oils then Citadel Purity Seal.
I use aerosol varnish so I don't gum up my airbrush , I have a hard enough time keeping it running sweet as it is.
I've used this recipe several times before with no ill effects but always left the gloss to dry ALOT longer before I did the rest

I would guess that you definitely didn't give the gloss varnish enough time to dry before applying the oils. I've been researching the process quite a bit and many guys recommend using a water based clear coat instead of spray varnish. I have yet to us oil weathering but I never use enamel based varnish any more.

ephrael wrote:
I would guess that you definitely didn't give the gloss varnish enough time to dry before applying the oils. I've been researching the process quite a bit and many guys recommend using a water based clear coat instead of spray varnish. I have yet to us oil weathering but I never use enamel based varnish any more.

Wise words mate , Klear floor polish may well be the way ahead for this technique, its worth trying tho as the oils are superb at shading and weathering compared to acrylics.

 Big H wrote:

ephrael wrote:
I would guess that you definitely didn't give the gloss varnish enough time to dry before applying the oils. I've been researching the process quite a bit and many guys recommend using a water based clear coat instead of spray varnish. I have yet to us oil weathering but I never use enamel based varnish any more.

Wise words mate , Klear floor polish may well be the way ahead for this technique, its worth trying tho as the oils are superb at shading and weathering compared to acrylics.

I use the same stuff, I's called Future floor polish here in the States but it is made by the same company. Amazing product to use on miniatures once you thin it a little.

Cool , I'll go and get some of that polish this week , tho I have no idea exactly where i'll find it , I generally don't polish many floors !!

Is it easy to work with thru an airbrush ?

 Big H wrote:
Cool , I'll go and get some of that polish this week , tho I have no idea exactly where i'll find it , I generally don't polish many floors !!

Is it easy to work with thru an airbrush ?

Yes you thin it about 1 part polish to 10 parts water. It flows like water really and cleans up easily. I'm not sure where you get it in the Uk but I buy mine at the grocery store in the aisle with the floor cleaners and such. It's a household product manufactured by Johnson's so I would assume it's not impossible to find.

ephrael wrote:

 Big H wrote:
Cool , I'll go and get some of that polish this week , tho I have no idea exactly where i'll find it , I generally don't polish many floors !!

Is it easy to work with thru an airbrush ?

Yes you thin it about 1 part polish to 10 parts water. It flows like water really and cleans up easily. I'm not sure where you get it in the Uk but I buy mine at the grocery store in the aisle with the floor cleaners and such. It's a household product manufactured by Johnson's so I would assume it's not impossible to find.

Thanks mate , I will try it , I'm fairly sure i've seen it before too , just not registered as a useful product before !

I come back and whole new page appears all looking good. I love the use of the predator lascannons on the land raider, nice touch, makes it look a little more bulky

Young Logan

I actually think the accidental effect works like a treat on the LR Big guy! :-) it really does look real and weathered like that, who says Nurgle have a monpoly on having some roug patches (understatement of the year there!)

 Young_Logan wrote:
I come back and whole new page appears all looking good. I love the use of the predator lascannons on the land raider, nice touch, makes it look a little more bulky

Young Logan

Thanks mate , and you must have really sharp eyes to notice the predator lascannons !
I used them because the original parts went "missing" and turned up on one of my other son's conversions ....


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 nerdfest09 wrote:
I actually think the accidental effect works like a treat on the LR Big guy! :-) it really does look real and weathered like that, who says Nurgle have a monpoly on having some roug patches (understatement of the year there!)

Fair one Damo , I'm just not 100% sure how i did it in the first place in order to replicate it !

I found a thread on Warseer that has the name of the Klear in the Uk and a picture of the bottle for you on page two. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?359525-1-16th-scale-Post-Apoc-quot-Mustang-quot-enjoy!/page2

ephrael wrote:
I found a thread on Warseer that has the name of the Klear in the Uk and a picture of the bottle for you on page two. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?359525-1-16th-scale-Post-Apoc-quot-Mustang-quot-enjoy!/page2

Thanks mate , I'll give that a go !

I've used Klear before it's pretty good, Forgeworld and a lot of modeling magazines etc, recommend it, I've used it neet from the bottle in a spray gun or you can brush it on.

Another good thing is that it is acrylic like GW paints so you can strip models with it on with fairy power spray etc.

I thought that cracked effect was deliberate . If you haven't found out what caused that effect I suspect that something hadn't finished setting and/or the spirit you used hadn't evaporated enough.

Lovely painting on the tanks as always!

 OneManNoodles wrote:
I've used Klear before it's pretty good, Forgeworld and a lot of modeling magazines etc, recommend it, I've used it neet from the bottle in a spray gun or you can brush it on.

Another good thing is that it is acrylic like GW paints so you can strip models with it on with fairy power spray etc.

I thought that cracked effect was deliberate . If you haven't found out what caused that effect I suspect that something hadn't finished setting and/or the spirit you used hadn't evaporated enough.

Lovely painting on the tanks as always!

I've been reading up on Klear and its properties , quite like the idea of using in tinted for washes etc.
Will be trying some out when I get chance.

I agree , I think 48hrs minimum is required as a cure time before a top coat of matt varnish , tho if I switch to Klear it won't matter !

Thanks mate ! I may use the "Crackle Method" on my nurgle tanks now !

Had a day off work today , and as the boy was at school I managed to get something done !

First off , I rigged up a "Heath Robinson" mini spray pot for my suction fed Badger airbrush. It originally had quite a large pot that wasted a lot of paint if I only need a small amount but I couldn't find a small, gravity fed style cup for a model 200 anywhere.

So I bought a different manufactures cup, that clearly wouldn't fit and taking a candle I bent a piece of plastic tube to attach it, a bit of tape sealed the gaps and Boom ! it works really well !

Next I completed some Dwarfs and movement trays for Little H's new WHFB obsession.

Currently I'm working on some details on the "Crackle Raider" , hopefully finish it tonight.

Finished the "Crackled Raider" . More pics on my Camo Blog.

Cooking on gas tonight !

Finished putting static grass on this rocky hill.

Now having a poke about on my "Engine Room " for a Zone Mortalis / Space Hulk idea that NerdFest09's blog got me interested in........

Lots of work left to do on this yet , least of which is some flooring , wall detail and some gantries on top of the blue plastic cylinders to give some different heights.

What do you think ?

Duude! I gotta say hell yeah! that engine room works well :-) I love the blue thingies and the shiny pipes, they're the two parts that really scream engine room to me! and the size is spot on as well (that's what she said)

I have my second order from tAB so i'll try and glue down the rest of my tiles and I'll send you the remaining ones I have if there's some left over :-)

Oh and Crackle raider is brilliant! I love the effect and how it looks properly used and abused without being ill maintained, i'd like to see some pics of all your works with a black background to really set of the colour scheme? those Dwarfs ( I thought it was spelt Dwarves but I got spell checked!) look tasty too, great subdued palette!

:-)

 nerdfest09 wrote:
Duude! I gotta say hell yeah! that engine room works well :-) I love the blue thingies and the shiny pipes, they're the two parts that really scream engine room to me! and the size is spot on as well (that's what she said)

I have my second order from tAB so i'll try and glue down the rest of my tiles and I'll send you the remaining ones I have if there's some left over :-)

Oh and Crackle raider is brilliant! I love the effect and how it looks properly used and abused without being ill maintained, i'd like to see some pics of all your works with a black background to really set of the colour scheme? those Dwarfs ( I thought it was spelt Dwarves but I got spell checked!) look tasty too, great subdued palette!

:-)

What can I say ? I have an extremely diverse bits box !

Thanks mate !

A group shot is a great idea , will have a go after the weekend.

I thought it was "Dwarves" too......

 nerdfest09 wrote:
i'd like to see some pics of all your works with a black background to really set of the colour scheme?
)

A quick attempt that turned into a fail. Will have another after the weekend when I have a bit more time.

There's a fair bit not on here, it was testing my patience trying to get it in , but these are probably the better stuff.