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I am suffering from "dry mouth" in fear the package shows up in Canada the second week of December: we are gone that week.
I may have to pay the local children a finder's fee if it is left on my doorstep.

 Mike1975 wrote:
Maybe this whole experience taught him that only Goblins, Wolfen and some of the other RPG races are prone to drueling and that humans.....not so much unless it's a 4-star meal or a really hot Human or Elven chick.

I thought it taught him that he doesn't want miniature wargamers as customers.lol Unlike his RPG fanbase we demand more and aren't content to wait years for product.

I don't remember who said it but Kevin said that the RRT backers are mean.

Anyone who visits the palladium forums more often know what I missed in this latest drama?

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145272

It seems like a disgruntled and apparently unpaid freelancer was scrubbed away ala the Coffin rant.

Also, has anyone here ordered and gotten a robotech BF case? If you've assembled the minis, do they fit? It seems like there may be some issues with the claim that it'll fit all the battlecry minis.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=146492

Joyboozer wrote:
How have you dealt with all the extra mouth moisture receiving your package produced?

In all honesty, I am spraying it about while making choom-choom noises. If they do an Invid kickstarter, I'll pledge.

 Cypher-xv wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:
Maybe this whole experience taught him that only Goblins, Wolfen and some of the other RPG races are prone to drueling and that humans.....not so much unless it's a 4-star meal or a really hot Human or Elven chick.

I thought it taught him that he doesn't want miniature wargamers as customers.lol Unlike his RPG fanbase we demand more and aren't content to wait years for product.

I don't remember who said it but Kevin said that the RRT backers are mean.

We are, we want something tangible and not just some book to make things up over. You can't go Pew Pew with a book!


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Well, Ok, when I was a kid I pretended to be a pilot and go Pew Pew with this cover.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Yg%2BCxXZML._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I'm in for two showdowns plus extras and I got my shipping notice yesterday evening. So, I'm starting to get excited again.

 warboss wrote:
Anyone who visits the palladium forums more often know what I missed in this latest drama?

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145272

It seems like a disgruntled and apparently unpaid freelancer was scrubbed away ala the Coffin rant.

I'm not 100% clear on what went down, but apparently some freelancer feels that some of his stuff ended up in the Rifter when he wasn't (fully?) reimbursed for his work. Seems to believe that PB owes him $150, and went on a tear posting short shots at PB in dozens of threads all over the place, calling them Liars and saying they owed him and whatnot. Apparently he also went to their Facebook page and went on a tear there as well.

Far as I know the posts have been 'hidden' (not gone, just can't be seen by most people) and the FB stuff deleted and he's been locked down on both.

The extremes have basically been presented as someone who is massively overreacting by some, to others who find that PB would even be in a situation where someone would be upset over a paltry sum that most of us here could probably pony up as individuals without breaking the bank, let alone a company, is a bad sign.

It's easy to assume the worst about PB, but as much of a tantrum as this individual seems to have had, frankly, I'm having a hard time not believing they might've (inadvertently or not) ripped off someone's material and failed to compensate them appropriately.

But that's just my general frustration speaking, and hence why I've tried to recognize that easy bias trap to fall into several times here.

 Forar wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Anyone who visits the palladium forums more often know what I missed in this latest drama?

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145272

It seems like a disgruntled and apparently unpaid freelancer was scrubbed away ala the Coffin rant.

I'm not 100% clear on what went down, but apparently some freelancer feels that some of his stuff ended up in the Rifter when he wasn't (fully?) reimbursed for his work. Seems to believe that PB owes him $150, and went on a tear posting short shots at PB in dozens of threads all over the place, calling them Liars and saying they owed him and whatnot. Apparently he also went to their Facebook page and went on a tear there as well.

Far as I know the posts have been 'hidden' (not gone, just can't be seen by most people) and the FB stuff deleted and he's been locked down on both.

The extremes have basically been presented as someone who is massively overreacting by some, to others who find that PB would even be in a situation where someone would be upset over a paltry sum that most of us here could probably pony up as individuals without breaking the bank, let alone a company, is a bad sign.

It's easy to assume the worst about PB, but as much of a tantrum as this individual seems to have had, frankly, I'm having a hard time not believing they might've (inadvertently or not) ripped off someone's material and failed to compensate them appropriately.

But that's just my general frustration speaking, and hence why I've tried to recognize that easy bias trap to fall into several times here.

Didn't catch it when it went down either but apparently the guy (and this is from 3rd party sources so take it with a grain of salt) complained he had tried to reach PB multiple times,multiple ways about the payment but was always brushed off or told it would be later or so on. This went on for quite a while and eventually the guy apparently decided that he probably wasn't going to get his money anymore so screw it and went around posting it in every PB thread, along with insults.

And yes, it was over payment for articles in RIFTERs, which PB DO say they'll pay for.

Update from the PB FB page.


((ALL USA backers will be shipped by Monday. Canada is next. We’ll be working Saturday and Sunday to get the USA rewards finished off and jump right into processing the Canadian backers’ rewards. By next Monday, Robotech® RPG Tactics™ should have shipped to ALL of our US Kickstarter backers and have started to ship to our Canadian backers. We hope to have all Canadian rewards on their way by the end of next week. There is an additional amount of paperwork in order to ship to Canada, so that may slow the process down a bit. As soon as they are done, we will start prepping and packaging overseas rewards.

Shipping Overseas Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Rewards

We will need to package them all, making sure each package satisfies the country’s shipping requirements (the maximum size in the EU is smaller than what is allowed in the USA, making things a little trickier), palletize them all by type, then put them on a ship and send them overseas to a central location for mailing throughout the European Union. A similar process will follow for Australia, which has a surprisingly large Robotech® fan base. It is our understanding that this method of shipping should reduce the end cost to the recipient. That said, the recipient will, of course, be responsible for any and all fees, taxes and duties their government may charge. What taxes, duties and fees MAY be applied is completely out of Palladium’s hands. Again, it is our understanding that this method of shipping will mitigate the cost to the recipient.))

Anyone else get a feeling this is building up to be both foreshadowing and plausible deniability?

Whelp, might get my stuff by the end of November after all.

Maybe.

 Forar wrote:
Anyone else get a feeling this is building up to be both foreshadowing and plausible deniability?

Whelp, might get my stuff by the end of November after all.

Maybe.

You think they'll do Canada like they've done the US backers? Smallest to largest?

Sorry to think about that, Forar.

I thought ROW wasn't going to have to pay VAT or any other charges? Yes Forar talk about foreshadowing.

So finally got my Showdown order.

Looking through the rules...anyone else massively disappointed with the Jotun and the YF-4? I paid extra to add them to my wave 2 order and now it turns out they're sidegrades from the Armored Valkyrie and the VF-1A w/ LRMs. The money would have been better spent on a VEF pack or Zentradai special weapons.

Also, the DF stats on everything seems a little low. Maybe they're expecting everybody to try and dodge everything. A Glaug can pretty much hit anything it wants on a 2+.

 Kendachi wrote:

You think they'll do Canada like they've done the US backers? Smallest to largest?

Sorry to think about that, Forar.

Oh, I absolutely expect that to be the case.

But with only around 200-300 or so Canadian backers, that difference should be more like a couple of days or a week rather than the month and a half it has been for US backers.

Hopefully they'll have accurate tracking with whomever is delivering this stuff. While not the biggest backer box out there, from what I'm reading it sounds like this'll be a good 80 pounds of stuff. dragging 50 or so pounds of it out to my friends should be interesting.

Anyone else feel like posts are being deleted from this thread? Ive made two posts now(one of them last night, the other earlier this week), neither of which are displaying, nor are the posts that I responded to showing up either. I know mods tend to remove off topic posts, but I dont believe theybwere technically off topic, qnd typically they make a statement about deleting them.

RogueRegault wrote:
So finally got my Showdown order.

Looking through the rules...anyone else massively disappointed with the Jotun and the YF-4? I paid extra to add them to my wave 2 order and now it turns out they're sidegrades from the Armored Valkyrie and the VF-1A w/ LRMs. The money would have been better spent on a VEF pack or Zentradai special weapons.

Also, the DF stats on everything seems a little low. Maybe they're expecting everybody to try and dodge everything. A Glaug can pretty much hit anything it wants on a 2+.

The yf-4 seems to be especially weak to me. The dual arm cannon are a downgrade from a GU-11 same damage and less range. I would think with all the extra thrusters the Super Valk would get a bonus. Oh well. Thanks for saving me money PB!

I guess now that I have rules I should go complaining in the rules thread.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Anyone else feel like posts are being deleted from this thread? Ive made two posts now(one of them last night, the other earlier this week), neither of which are displaying, nor are the posts that I responded to showing up either. I know mods tend to remove off topic posts, but I dont believe theybwere technically off topic, qnd typically they make a statement about deleting them.

If the MODs were annoyed/upset enough to delete on of your posts I'm sure there would have been a warning in thread for people to behave (or possible a private warning to you via PM),

so I think it's more likely you either posted in the wrong thread (easy enough to do if you've got multiple windows open?) or possibly didn't actually register a post at all (dropout on a phone?)

Edit:

You realise there is the general KS thread (this one) and a Robotech Rules discussion on (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/612122.page) in this forum, have a look in the other thread and you may find your posts in there?

no this is the only thread ivd been posting in re: kickstarter, and I was reasonably sure both posts went through as I distinctly recall reading them both at some point after posting them, but I suppose its irrelevant.

Whitedragon informed me earlier this week that our joint Showdown showed up at his place.

Our collective response was a resounding "Now that it's here, not sure if want".

Mouth watering!

It'll be interesting to see how my friends react to their 2 and 3 sets apiece.

 Cypher-xv wrote:
I thought ROW wasn't going to have to pay VAT or any other charges? Yes Forar talk about foreshadowing.

On the main kickstarter page it says this under international shipping-

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm?ref=nav_search
For those of you living in Europe, we have made an arrangement with a local vendor in the UK to ship your pledge rewards from there.

This means that as a European Backer you will not be required to pay any additional VAT or import duties on your pledge reward. All that is required is the flat rate shipping fee based on your highest pledge level.

If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

Sorry mate, you've made a mistake, anything written by palladium that isn't followed by a copyright or trademark is just fiction.

And if they are packing and sending by boat looks like won't have my stuff till next year as well, which i expected anyway.

 manrogue wrote:
If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

I won't be happy either. Actually, I'll be litigious.

 Albertorius wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

I won't be happy either. Actually, I'll be litigious.

And is ANYBODY surprised you would say that??? Bueller? Bueller?

I think you're confusing Albertorius for Asterios or whatever Rick's handle is around these parts.

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

I won't be happy either. Actually, I'll be litigious.

And is ANYBODY surprised you would say that??? Bueller? Bueller?

Are you mistaking me for someone else, perhaps?

I'm that grumpy guy that writes a lot of posts over at the Heavy Gear thread, not the one that wants to sue PB. Or at least, not so far.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

I won't be happy either. Actually, I'll be litigious.

And is ANYBODY surprised you would say that??? Bueller? Bueller?

Are you mistaking me for someone else, perhaps?

I'm that grumpy guy that writes a lot of posts over at the Heavy Gear thread, not the one that wants to sue PB. Or at least, not so far.

Sorry, your right I'm thinking Asterios. The constant lawsuit threats fries the brain.

I'm not one to throw stones on that topic, having made the same mistake a week or so ago myself.

Something of a reflexive response at this point.

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
If i get stung for customs charges i won't be happy......

I won't be happy either. Actually, I'll be litigious.

And is ANYBODY surprised you would say that??? Bueller? Bueller?

Are you mistaking me for someone else, perhaps?

I'm that grumpy guy that writes a lot of posts over at the Heavy Gear thread, not the one that wants to sue PB. Or at least, not so far.

Sorry, your right I'm thinking Asterios. The constant lawsuit threats fries the brain.

No lawsuit talk here, in fact not much talk here, but on a side note I find it interesting how PB's wording on their KS front page says

This means that as a European Backer you will not be required to pay any additional VAT or import duties on your pledge reward.

which indicates no additional charges will be applied, but i'm curious why they did not say no VAT fees will be required, just no additional ones, which indicates some form of VAT fees will apply, just no new ones.