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RTT has really made spend a bunch of money on Macross stuff. Reference books, 1/48 Hasagwa Angel Bird. A coupe of wave kits.

For assembly of the Valkyrie I have a battle foam tray and I clip the pieces and put one model per figure slot. I also Glue one forearm together for Battleoid and Guardians and mark the left arm with a sharpie. The Guardian is my least favorite piece of the whole set. Played 2 games and I like Guardian mode the best in game. But I was doing rapid fire wrong. Pictures soon(ish)

Does anyone have a lot of leftover Robotech bits, like extra arms or missiles, that they would be willing to part with for a couple bucks plus shipping? I'd love to use the pieces for Dropzone Commander conversions and the like.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Forar wrote:
dealing with some of the "nothing is wrong, everything is awesome!" folks in a variety of places is killing my interest.

I think the minis are 80-90% right. Not perfect, but definitely not bad. I think they look good, and build up about as well as one might expect for a 2" figure with the associated detail..

Dropzone Commander has similarly fine detailing, and I was able to assemble everything on one sprue in the time it would take to assemble one veritech guardian. The minis look great once assembled (with care!), but the sprue layout and design is a disaster.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does anyone have a lot of leftover Robotech bits, like extra arms or missiles, that they would be willing to part with for a couple bucks plus shipping? I'd love to use the pieces for Dropzone Commander conversions and the like.

Yup, I'll chuck 'em in with our eternal trade.


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Hey peeps, check out Burn In Designs. Thinking about ordering a bunch of their bases.

http://www.burnindesigns.net/2015/01/new-products-robotech-rpg-tactics.html

bases look better then the swooshes PB gave us

Asterios wrote:
bases look better then the swooshes PB gave us

The supplied flight stands are arguably the worst choice possible for a minis game. They are huge and distract from the models.

Sure, they have a 70s vibe for aircraft, but they are totally inappropriate for just about anything else, especially for the scale of these models.

A length of clear plastic rod a la GW, but with a less breakable tip, would have been ideal.

Fortunately, I don't have a lot of models, so I can make something, maybe metal wire.

 judgedoug wrote:
Hey peeps, check out Burn In Designs. Thinking about ordering a bunch of their bases.

http://www.burnindesigns.net/2015/01/new-products-robotech-rpg-tactics.html

Ohhh, those look pretty cool.

Nice looking bases.

I had a vision of scribing the stats on the base like hero-clicks or X-wing... some games just damage how you look at things.

I do not know why, but I have not been a fan of clear bases.

I agree that the clear peg stands are preferred than the opaque swoosh plastic stands. I am using the supplied stands though, I think a matt black is about all I can do to make them unobtrusive. I am trying to do everything I can "out of the box" so it is representative of the actual product rather than 3rd party enhancements.

I like it that all these add-ons are coming out though, anyone spot other items don't be shy pointing them out, it is appreciated.

I seem to fail in understanding that those who bought this game as a modeling opportunity rather than a tabletop game: why? There are much nicer kits out there albeit larger ones, is it just the scale of them that makes them interesting? I could see the interest of ransacking destroids for Battletech be more of a draw.

The more I look at it the more I have to ask: does that recovery drone style look completely messed-up in design compared to other Zentradi craft? The eye could have been designed more like the pods at the very least, the thruster on the top and somewhat featureless shell just looks odd. The pods have raised panels while this thing has some grooved outlines of panels. Bah, IP and whatever the artists decided to draw: it is what it is.

Just got my 3 boxes of the Tomahawk/Defender destroids (got for some $14 each). Why do the cards they send not contain the Defender for the UEDF in any way? UEDF you get the 4 Tomahawk card and the 2 Toma / 2 Spartan. Weird. Do people have to buy the other packs so they can field a Defender?? Damn you PB! I have no idea why you do what you do. <edit> The small add-on cards may contain them, I will have to look later but a 4 or 2 Defender/2 other destroid squad card should be there.

I haven't gone over my cards recently, but there's definitely a destroid card or two missing from the Battle Cry packages. I think someone said that supposedly this might be rectified with wave two, though the usual caveat of "who knows when that will be" (or if, yes, Rick, yes... if...).

However, as per the force org charts they linked during the KS, there actually isn't a 4 Defender squad. The other 3 (non-MAC II) Destroids can be fielded in groups of 4, if I recall correctly, but Defenders can't.

So the most Defenders that can be in a single squad is 6, whereas you can have a full 8 of the others. This was, in a small way, part of why some people were nonplussed to find out that they couldn't just make any combination of Tomahawks and Defenders they wanted; it's harder to field larger numbers of D's than T's, so being able to skew the number they owned a little held appeal.

 Forar wrote:
I haven't gone over my cards recently, but there's definitely a destroid card or two missing from the Battle Cry packages. I think someone said that supposedly this might be rectified with wave two, though the usual caveat of "who knows when that will be" (or if, yes, Rick, yes... if...).

However, as per the force org charts they linked during the KS, there actually isn't a 4 Defender squad. The other 3 (non-MAC II) Destroids can be fielded in groups of 4, if I recall correctly, but Defenders can't.

So the most Defenders that can be in a single squad is 6, whereas you can have a full 8 of the others. This was, in a small way, part of why some people were nonplussed to find out that they couldn't just make any combination of Tomahawks and Defenders they wanted; it's harder to field larger numbers of D's than T's, so being able to skew the number they owned a little held appeal.

I pointed that out to PB and I think they are making an all Defender Squadron card. It'd be funny if the squadron had the same name as I gave mine.

 Talizvar wrote:
I seem to fail in understanding that those who bought this game as a modeling opportunity rather than a tabletop game: why? There are much nicer kits out there albeit larger ones, is it just the scale of them that makes them interesting?

Why? For $80, I'm getting a Monster and a couple dozen other models - all consistent scale and style. If I go to hlj, even with the current Yen weakness, the kits are significantly more expensive. The variety pack of models I'm getting scratches the nostalgia itch, and gives me the option to play little skirmishes, if I should so desire.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
I seem to fail in understanding that those who bought this game as a modeling opportunity rather than a tabletop game: why? There are much nicer kits out there albeit larger ones, is it just the scale of them that makes them interesting?

Why? For $80, I'm getting a Monster and a couple dozen other models - all consistent scale and style. If I go to hlj, even with the current Yen weakness, the kits are significantly more expensive. The variety pack of models I'm getting scratches the nostalgia itch, and gives me the option to play little skirmishes, if I should so desire.

what did you get that only cost $80 ? since the Monster by itself cost $40.

$40 for the Monster
$40 for Z Glaug+pods trio, a couple Valks (3 ea) & 4 Destroids in wave 1; waiting on Super Valks & FPAs in wave 2. Plus a few custom dice.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
$40 for the Monster
$40 for Z Glaug+pods trio, a couple Valks (3 ea) & 4 Destroids in wave 1; waiting on Super Valks & FPAs in wave 2. Plus a few custom dice.

that's a lot more then $40

we have the
command pack $ 20
Valk pack $20
Destroids pack $20
also the RRT dice shipped with wave one.

 Talizvar wrote:


That means at say 2 cards of Valkyries (24 models) and some battleroids (4 to maybe 6? with an add-on card?) = Total some 30-odd models.

For Zentradi, 2 cards of a battle-group = 18 battlepods, 2 Glaug, possibly artillery group of pods = 6 total = Total some 26-odd models.
I suspect I will need more to have an even points match-up (really need to make a list to be sure).

I got a wee bit sidetracked since I assembled every single unique model so I knew how all of them would be to do.
Is the above "list" about what everyone else is shooting for?

What I ended up laminating as my "go to" forces currently for wave 1 with just blitzkrieg and no add ons was

RDF: Basic Veritech Squadron x 2 no upgrades, Area Denial Destroid Squadron plus Phalanx and Spartan upgrades 290pts
Zents: Regult Recon Squadron x 2, each with 6 extra Pods and a Heavy Missile pod upgrade (assuming I can build 4 of them) 290pts

It's simple yet has some variety, has no special characters, and can be built right out of the blitzkrieg pledge. You can get both up to 345-350pts without adding any models but throwing in special characters, veteran upgrades, and valk weapon options for more advanced setups. I got enough enthusiasm going to copy, print, and laminate the cards (mainly to test if the machine works) but not enough to actually clip a single piece yet. Has anyone tried magnetizing the artillery pods? Is it pretty easy for someone with average skill? I know this thread is full of master modellers who can assemble 1/285 scale versions of modern aircraft carriers drunk in the dark while battling polio but I'm just a regular guy.

As a side note, I just got an email from Wayland that they've now got Robotech in stock so if there are any UK fans who haven't gotten their stuff but are itching to scratch that festering palladium itch, you have a local solution to get your stuff earlier.

Asterios wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
$40 for the Monster
$40 for Z Glaug+pods trio, a couple Valks (3 ea) & 4 Destroids in wave 1; waiting on Super Valks & FPAs in wave 2. Plus a few custom dice.

that's a lot more then $40

we have the
command pack $ 20
Valk pack $20
Destroids pack $20
also the RRT dice shipped with wave one.

I'm getting the feeling that John split a Battle Cry + Extras with someone.

Or is extremely bad at math.

But I'm guessing it's the former.

@Warboss: I haven't tried the Artillery Pods yet, but I do intend to do some magnetizing to keep my options open, so I'll let you know how that goes if I get around to doing one up before you feel the urge to dive in. And as an outright amateur modeler in this thread, if I can do it, I imagine most (not all, but most) people can.

Thanks, let me know how it goes. It looks like if should be a simple matter of putting flat 1/8" magnets on both ends of the artillery peg as well as on each missile pod but I figured I'd ask. I only have the 4 arty pods so modularity is a plus.

Asterios wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
$40 for the Monster
$40 for Z Glaug+pods trio, a couple Valks (3 ea) & 4 Destroids in wave 1; waiting on Super Valks & FPAs in wave 2. Plus a few custom dice.

that's a lot more then $40

we have the
command pack $ 20
Valk pack $20
Destroids pack $20
also the RRT dice shipped with wave one.

Not if I split a $140 pledge... Then, it's only $40 for all of that stuff.

If I were going to pay that much money, I'd have bought larger kits.

Meanwhile, my buddy only spent $100 for a deluxe version of RRT Win-win!

Has anyone in the UK received their stuff yet?

I only ask as Wayland has it available for dispatch (5 left in stock) and i thought Backers would get it before retail in their country?
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/palladium-books/robotech-rpg-tactics/robotech-rpg-tactics-box-set/prod_23465.html

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(gasp)
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Oh, wait. You're serious?

No, to my knowledge no UK backer has received anything yet.

Chances are Wayland imported this stock themselves from their own US division - I don't think this is stock that's come in from a third-party UK importer (that would require that PB actually be malicious and well organised rather than callous and inept). It's just another indicator how seriously fethed up Palladium's idea of distribution is.

Nope, was being sarcastic, I'm fully aware no backer in uk has received stuff as they would of posted in this thread which i lurk daily.

Probably didn't make it clear enough in the post. lol

Arty Battle Pod was freaking Jesse James and Wyatt Earp
My Phalanx's were like M109 Paladins.

Moving fire bases they were

 manrogue wrote:
Has anyone in the UK received their stuff yet?

I only ask as Wayland has it available for dispatch (5 left in stock) and i thought Backers would get it before retail in their country?
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/palladium-books/robotech-rpg-tactics/robotech-rpg-tactics-box-set/prod_23465.html

Another one of their promises shown to be a lie. That at least we'd have it before retailers and distributors.

Only promise that's left is that Wave 2 is actually going to happen.

John: Thanks for the clarification, guess it makes sense of getting everything from that show all in the same relative scale in one shot. In your shoes I would have waited for ebay sales and only got what I needed.

Warboss: Looks like a good list, I like the variety, I think it works out to more models than I was targeting.
The Artillery pods lend themselves extremely well to magnets.
Drill into the center of each end and pop in a magnet (keeping in mind polarity kept constant) then glue / green stuff in a magnet inside the missile pod itself, should be only about 1mm between magnets, it should hold tight.
The only challenge is the two big guns option is a different mount so you may have to put a magnet in the pod body and base of the gun mount.

Is it a bad thing if I recently got "Battletech: Total Warfare" and "Alphastrike"? I keep finding myself sidetracked from working on one set of stomping robots to another. Lets just hope the Warhamm... er, "Tomahawk" does not get mixed up.

@Tal - I just wanted a smattering of stuff that "matched", so splitting the pledge worked perfectly.

I calculated that the KS savings were far greater than anything from eBay short of a SedWars failure. If RRT did OK a la Zombicide, I'd be looking at paying roughly 2x as much for the same stuff. Plus, there's the hassle of hunting, etc. The pledge split was a lot simpler.

Well, if you put a magnet in the base of the "stalk" and the top of the pod and the gun piece, then you can swap out between regular pods and arty pods. Of course that means you have to make extra stalks.

 Talizvar wrote:
Warboss: Looks like a good list, I like the variety, I think it works out to more models than I was targeting.
The Artillery pods lend themselves extremely well to magnets.
Drill into the center of each end and pop in a magnet (keeping in mind polarity kept constant) then glue / green stuff in a magnet inside the missile pod itself, should be only about 1mm between magnets, it should hold tight.
The only challenge is the two big guns option is a different mount so you may have to put a magnet in the pod body and base of the gun mount.

I haven't played (and my prospects look grim on that front) so I don't know if it is any good but it's got a bit from every column for variety and is a bit scalable which is what I was looking for. It works out to a few more models but not much more. The RDF has 3 squadrons (24 veritechs and 8 destroids) whereas the zents have two squadrons (32 pods). If you got the battlecry/blitzkrieg pledge, you'll still have IIRC both pods (regults and recovery) and veritechs left over. I don't know if the big gun variant arty pods are worthwhile mechanically and I'm not a fan of them in any case visually so I don't think I'll be including them in my conversion plans. If push comes to shove, I'll just convert two regular regults into cannon pods.

 manrogue wrote:
Nope, was being sarcastic, I'm fully aware no backer in uk has received stuff as they would of posted in this thread which i lurk daily.

Probably didn't make it clear enough in the post. lol

Simply not true, I'm afraid.

Back on page 277 I said I had received all of my wave 1 rewards. Winterdyne and you have obviously missed the implication that Wayne & Co deliberately posted my DECALS so they can say with a straight face that UK backers started receiving their rewards before it goes retail.

On a related note, anyone else notice that Wayland only actually have the main box and Spartan pack available now? Destroids, Valks, and all the Zent packs are pre-orders for the 15th.

 Talizvar wrote:
Nice looking bases.I seem to fail in understanding that those who bought this game as a modeling opportunity rather than a tabletop game: why? There are much nicer kits out there albeit larger ones, is it just the scale of them that makes them interesting? I could see the interest of ransacking destroids for Battletech be more of a draw.

Yup, for me it's the scale (or rather the size?). I have some old Robotech figures from before I got into miniatures, but when I saw this project I found the idea of some smaller models that I could paint (and perhaps even pose) myself and sit next to my 28mm stuff to be appealing. I know they aren't in the same scale as my 28mm figures, the point is that they are small enough to be displayed alongside them. What can I say, 28-32mm is just the sweet spot for me right now; large enough to have nice details, small enough to be easy to store and transport, and probably easier to paint to an acceptable level (at least for me) than larger models.

Having said all that, I have very little knowledge of existing model kits, so perhaps I would have been better off with something else after all.

 Conrad Turner wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
Nope, was being sarcastic, I'm fully aware no backer in uk has received stuff as they would of posted in this thread which i lurk daily.

Probably didn't make it clear enough in the post. lol

Simply not true, I'm afraid.

Back on page 277 I said I had received all of my wave 1 rewards. Winterdyne and you have obviously missed the implication that Wayne & Co deliberately posted my DECALS so they can say with a straight face that UK backers started receiving their rewards before it goes retail.

On a related note, anyone else notice that Wayland only actually have the main box and Spartan pack available now? Destroids, Valks, and all the Zent packs are pre-orders for the 15th.

Touché

I did see that post to be fair, the decals you asked to be delivered in wave 2 but they sent now anyway lol.

The decals are rather funny (except the specifically shipped to UK, that is just being rude...).
I had ordered extra just in case with my backer kit.
The three extra destroid kits I got each have a sheet.
There are such an insane amount of decals I doubt there is any running out of them.
I will see how long it takes to use-up just the one sheet... I think it will be surprising.

So, now my mind turns on what to store these suckers in for transport. Please do not say Battlefoam, that ship has sailed.
I find these "charm" type storage containers with some felt or foam would probably work:

The dividers can be removed for the taller pods.
The more delicate thin bits on these need to be in an enclosure than being sandwiched in egg-carton shaped foam, I could see even that pressure snapping bits.
The bases are so thin that sticking a rare earth magnet or washer underneath is not much of an option.
Any "best practice" anyone would suggest?
I suppose there is always good-old "pluck foam".