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Well I am in a predicament and need a little advice.

So Today I went out and bought some Krylon Fusion for plastic paint in red, I was told that this stuff was a good paint to paint my 40k space marines.
SOOOO, I picked up a can of red because I thought it would be best to use since my other space marines are red and wanted to skip a step.
I just sprayed them a few hours ago and now that I look at them the paint is either gloss or semi-gloss although it doesn't specify on the can of paint .

The models looks kinda bad with the semi-gloss look so I was wondering if I should re-paint them or just go with it? Is it hard to paint over a semi-gloss base?
Any advice would help out, I can post a picture if you want to see what the models look like.

Noooo! never use krylon on models! especially not the spray paint kind. I tried this a long time ago. It was really thick and glossy, ruins models. Make sure the can says primer on it. Glossy and thick primer is hard to paint over. Re primer them with something else. Army painter makes a nice red primer you could probably use. Or if you're looking for cheap, go with rustoleum. They are another common spray paint brand like krylon, but their stuff works twice as well for the same price. Good luck

Glossy sucks in my opinion.

Its thick and obscures detail and doesn't take other paint very well.

I would try test stripping one in La's totally awesome or simple green to see if the stuff comes off.

Next time try out new products on a piece of sprue. It'll save you some grief. Poor guy. Hope it strips off.

[list]If the krylon didn't obscure the details you could just apply testors dullcote over it.

well it didnt obscure any details and wasn't to thick, I tried to keep the sprays short so avoid this.
Also I was thinking about going for the army painter red but didn't want to go down to the game store (out of laziness) so decided on this junk.

I'm not really to upset about it because it was just a squad of 10 marines I got off ebay for like 15 bucks so its not a huge loss.

I think I will try a test model for the ones I did prime with the Krylon and see if it looks okay. I just dont really want to strip them of the paint.

Oh good at least you didn't do a whole army or something important.

Im not sure about army painter as iv used there daemonic yellow spray and it melted my model. there white is ok though so YMMV.

Just as a general rule, sprays that are not specifically designed for model painting will almost always be gloss unless it actually says otherwise on the tin.

If you're buying non-model specific spray paint, you need Flat or Matte colours. Preferably Flat - Some matte paints still have a slight sheen to them...

I've personally never had an issue with anything Krylon on my minis (going 2 yrs strong!) but maybe that's just my luck. I also use the normal primer, so that may make the difference:


Same idea as the others: most things are at least semi-gloss from a can. And also as was mentioned, you can just matte/flat coat it and it'll accept paint just the same:


If primed or painted incorrectly, and your detail does become clogged/hidden/covered/etc., it's best to just strip it down and give it a fresh coat on attempt #2.

There is nothing wrong with using Krylon FLAT Primers at all. But you should really never use Satin, Semi Gloss, or Gloss sprays for priming models.

 Todosi wrote:
There is nothing wrong with using Krylon FLAT Primers at all. But you should really never use Satin, Semi Gloss, or Gloss sprays for priming models.

Exactly.

I use Krylon gray, black, and white flat primers. NEVER had an issue with them, really swear by them. However, I have accidentally used a semi-gloss one time and it messes things up nicely. Washes don't flow right etc. I stripped them with Superclean and re-primered them.

I have never had a good experience with Krylon. I can't say enough good things about Rustoleum personally, but I'm pretty biased in that regard. I've had trouble with every kind of spray paint but Rustoleum though, mostly due to the extreme humidity in the region I live in. I had the same issue you did, (also with Krylon paint) and I just applied primer on top of them, and then painted them normally. Haven't had any issues with them. You can see pictures in my gallery. Several of the models are interspersed in my tactical squads, and with the exception of one who has a distinctive pose that I remember from the spray painting disaster, I can't tell which ones were mistakenly spray painted and which ones were painted normally.

No big deal, should be a fairly easy fix. Hope that helps, and I hope your army turns out great.

Does rustoleum or krylon have red flat paints? I know army painter does but are there any other brands that sell a red primer or paint that's a flat colour?

I noticed after I let the models dry that they almost had a sticky feeling to them which was really strange since they were painted some 20 hours before I did touch them, does that mean it's melting the plastic a bit or just a bad quality spray I.e to much paint?

I did paint one model though and it didn't turn out to bad, but it might be because I did a really shotty job at painting my other models since I used a watered down paint.

Tmrw I will try and post a picture of the marine I just painted compared to the one I previously painted. Be warned though I am not a good painter and they are pretty bad haha but critics and advice (both good and bad) would be great when I post them

throw them in simple green for a few days. army painter primer is very nice they have 20 colors or somthing including red look them up srry to hear abt ur mishap :(

Army Painter primers are good, though as usual careful thin layers rather than try and blitz in one go will work best.

chiefbigredman wrote:
well it didnt obscure any details and wasn't to thick, I tried to keep the sprays short so avoid this.
Also I was thinking about going for the army painter red but didn't want to go down to the game store (out of laziness) so decided on this junk.

I'm not really to upset about it because it was just a squad of 10 marines I got off ebay for like 15 bucks so its not a huge loss.

I think I will try a test model for the ones I did prime with the Krylon and see if it looks okay. I just dont really want to strip them of the paint.

Laziness usually creates more work in the long run. Strip them if you can before repainting.

I love Krylon, I don't even use the their primers. I have a metallica shimmer and a gloss red. It's all about thin coatings. But I can see where it can get gooped up when I first started using the gloss red I was worried but after drying it was fine.

A couple years ago, there was a big fuss about krylon fusion because it's made to go on plastics, but it was quickly discovered that it was AWFUL for miniatures for all of the reasons above. Unfortunately, people still find old posts about it and don't realize it turned out badly.

There are other krylon paints that are perfectly good, though.

ya I am going to have to say that laziness turned out bad with my spray decision. Although the one model I painted doesn't look half bad. I am just concerned now about how they all feel slightly tacky/sticky. They have been drying forever now and its not like the paint is coming off the models so I am not sure why it is doing that.

Rented Tritium - You know I actually saw one of those old posts about it and that's why I picked it up...woops haha


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Well here are 2 pictures of the model I painted using the Kyrlon stuff (My painting abilities aren't the best I am working on it so any critic would be greatly appreciated as well)






Here is two pictures of a previous model I painted just as a comparison

Looks fine to me. Just hit it with a matte varnish (or imo the best, testors dullcoat) and it should be just fine.

Just remember from here on out .. if it doesn't say flat or matte on the can, it isn't.

Don't believe the hype! They look fine and a little Dullcote will get rid of the shine. If you don't like painting over a satin or gloss finish, use something different next time. That said, take a look at Buypainted.com or whomever - it's not at all uncommon to put a coat of varnish on a model during the process to seal your work before moving on to the next step. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with using a satin or gloss primer coat, it's a matter of personal preference.

If the paint isn't drying, you may have failed to shake it well enough.

Rorschach9 wrote:
Looks fine to me. Just hit it with a matte varnish (or imo the best, testors dullcoat) and it should be just fine.

Just remember from here on out .. if it doesn't say flat or matte on the can, it isn't.

also, watch out for satin..... its also shiny :s

oh well, live and learn

Just an idea:

(This is "The Wrong Way" to paint minis.)
Prime with glossy Krylon, oil wash, then Dull Cote. Now you have your armor DONE and you can focus on other things.

I have used the krylon ultra-flat camouflage series on hundreds of mini's with perfect results each time. I used both black and tan.

I used the krlyon generic white primer once and it went on way too thick.

I would just put a matte finish on the guy you painted already. Stripping is just a huge pain in my opinion.

Jack_Death wrote:
Don't believe the hype! They look fine and a little Dullcote will get rid of the shine.

Rorschach9 wrote:
Looks fine to me. Just hit it with a matte varnish (or imo the best, testors dullcoat) and it should be just fine.

Agreed with both of these . Testors Dullcote will solve this!

Also, love your thread title

I use Auto Primer from the car parts shop.

Agree with the above thoughts- doesn't look that bad! Hit it with a coat of matte finish and should be just fine.


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Thokt wrote:
I use Auto Primer from the car parts shop.

Me too- less than 5 bucks a can. Works great! Just make sure there's no fillers in it though, but that's usually more expensive anyways

I've used Krylon flat gray and black primer with no issues on the model.

I have noticed on the last two cans that the nozzle has clogged about 2/3 of the way through using the can, though. Unfortunately, right before it clogs completely it starts "spitting". Has anyone else had an issue like this with the spray cans? I keep them in a cool, dry location when I'm not using them so I'm not sure why they're doing it.

Yeah, I found krylon to be pretty bad for minis too. You did a good job though, like the others said I think if you hit it with some dull/matte finish it'll be just fine.

Thokt wrote:
I use Auto Primer from the car parts shop.

.99 cent Walmart dullcoat for me. I always do a test squirt to make sure it's not clumping, but I've found it surprisingly good, especially for priming rank and file troops.

 fenshysa wrote:
I've used Krylon flat gray and black primer with no issues on the model.

I have noticed on the last two cans that the nozzle has clogged about 2/3 of the way through using the can, though. Unfortunately, right before it clogs completely it starts "spitting". Has anyone else had an issue like this with the spray cans? I keep them in a cool, dry location when I'm not using them so I'm not sure why they're doing it.

Yeah, that's why I test my spray like I have ocd now. Luckily it was on a Slaanesh Rhino and I was able to fix it with a nice gold spray. (The little lumps made it look like fancy metal ore.)
If it spit on my troops they would have been all but ruined.

Im with Depraved. I use krylon camouflage Ultra flat series. I believe Rustolium also does a camo ultra flat line now as well.

The ultra flat is GREAT for mini's. creates a perfect painting surface and does not cover up details.