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2013/06/04 04:44:41
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
I don't see why anyone should believe that recording.
It's pretty easy to use software to change a man's voice to sound like a woman's. You tend to get some distortion, which sounds like audio compression on a cheap circuit.
Alternatively it could have been assembled from audio clips.
It could even have been made by a malicious unknown third party who isn't associated with Resin Forge.
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't see why anyone should believe that recording.
It's pretty easy to use software to change a man's voice to sound like a woman's. You tend to get some distortion, which sounds like audio compression on a cheap circuit.
Alternatively it could have been assembled from audio clips.
It could even have been made by a malicious unknown third party who isn't associated with Resin Forge.
As far as I can see most of the people aren't interested to see any other opinion then their own...Come on, Kim calls as wished and now you act as if it's Daniel making a call from audio clips? You want prove, but if they deliver it, it's fake anyway? That doesn't seem logic to me sorry...
Kind of getting the feeling that you don't want to believe it anyway..
2013/06/04 05:49:11
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't see why anyone should believe that recording.
It's pretty easy to use software to change a man's voice to sound like a woman's. You tend to get some distortion, which sounds like audio compression on a cheap circuit.
Alternatively it could have been assembled from audio clips.
It could even have been made by a malicious unknown third party who isn't associated with Resin Forge.
As far as I can see most of the people aren't interested to see any other opinion then their own...Come on, Kim calls as wished and now you act as if it's Daniel making a call from audio clips? You want prove, but if they deliver it, it's fake anyway? That doesn't seem logic to me sorry...
Kind of getting the feeling that you don't want to believe it anyway..
It's as simple as a legitimate business calling from a fake number. That alone is something that we have caught Daniel doing in the past and is just one of the reasons to doubt this story.
2013/06/04 05:58:18
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Gamma310 wrote: As far as I can see most of the people aren't interested to see any other opinion then their own...Come on, Kim calls as wished and now you act as if it's Daniel making a call from audio clips? You want prove, but if they deliver it, it's fake anyway? That doesn't seem logic to me sorry...
Kind of getting the feeling that you don't want to believe it anyway..
Given the lies that Resin Forge has been caught out on so far, is it really that surprising that people are suspicious by this point?
2013/06/04 06:01:30
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Please post on dakka Kim called Ryan *********** work 25 minutes ago and left a voice mail just as he wanted. Otherwise he will lie and say it did not happen. Daniel is not her ex husband and she is most certainly real.
Go post this if you are unbiased as you have been showing.
the only editing in the above message was the surname
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2013/06/04 06:03:27
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Since this is being requested apparently here is word for word the only recent email contact I've had with Resin Forge via "Kim":
Spoiler:
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:34 PM, <aerethan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Calling from a fake number is no way to show the world how legit your business is.
If you honestly have info to clear your company from the allegations against you, I strongly urge you to make them public. Nothing is stopping you from making a Dakka account, no matter how much Daniel might have said so. The community welcomes open communication with your company.
If you truly have shed the blight that is Daniel and all of his little lies and harassment, then it would benefit your company greatly to convince certain key people involved with this, myself being one such person.
I am not obligated to call from my actual number and feel a lot more secure using any other outlet knowing that I will not be risking my home phone number being posted on Dakka. It is also worth noting, you have refused to call our customer service number, one that I do not personally use. Instead, you had me call so you could record the conversation. Judging from your tendency to document and post everything publicly, it was obvious you would [record the call].
The fact that I called you at all should say something, itself.
I am not a 45 yr old woman; in fact I am much younger. What is the point of communicating anything with you, you clearly have no intention to believe anything that has been said and are only using email communications to post on Dakka.
Resin Forge is not closing, despite the unwillingness your colleges seem to show whenever we provide proof; including calling you myself.
And my last email to "Kim":
I never posted Daniels phone number. I merely verified that he called from a number that was already publicly available. Also, I didn't/haven't recorded anything. You left a voice mail. Had you actually spoken with me it would not have been recorded. Why would I call a number that doesn't connect me with the only people who have answers? I'm willing to believe, if only the proof is undeniable. You have to understand the communities reluctance to accept things based only on word of mouth when it comes to ANYTHING related to Daniel Mandelbondsley. Show a tax ID, show a DBA registration, hop on my raidcall if you are so inclined, 5563138 is the channel.
You are not obligated to do anything, but for the sake of your business you are currently poised to continue on having a massive black spot on your reputation should you choose to ignore the allegations. I dare say that ignoring these issues will shut down your site, through no means of my own. You have to realize that my only dog in this fight is that calls were made to my place of business in the name of Resin Forge in an attempt to get me fired, which means my kids get to be homeless. So you'll have to excuse me defending that to the death.
Being in business with Daniel is the single worst thing that you could have done, and it will be no easy task to dig yourself out of it. Dakka is the single largest online community for your exact market, speaking there directly would do wonders to improve your image.
Please post on dakka Kim called Ryan *********** work 25 minutes ago and left a voice mail just as he wanted. Otherwise he will lie and say it did not happen. Daniel is not her ex husband and she is most certainly real.
Go post this if you are unbiased as you have been showing.
the only editing in the above message was the surname
I didn't lie about Kim calling, hell I posted the voicemail she left. She called 7 minutes after business hours, conveniently enough to go straight to voicemail.
I've posted our little conversation verbatim.
I'll also remind everyone that the only way RF knows my work # is if they got it from Daniel. That number is not posted anywhere public nor is it ever mentioned in any emails I've had with RF.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
2013/06/04 06:26:32
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Then why don't you call their customer service number? Accusing someone of calling late by intent to make sure you only get the voicemail is a cheap accusation...Just call their customer service number and talk to em..
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2013/06/04 07:03:14
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Aerethan has absolutely nothing to prove, so it doesn't matter.
Resin Forge is the company that has a giant PR problem, if they feel that being afraid to call from a real phone number is something that a legitimate business does then that is up to them.
Leaving a message on a voice mail and going "OMG you recorded me" is pretty Daniel as well. If you believe Resin Forge is legit, then more power to you. They have not really done anything to make most people think so.
This is the exact playbook that we saw during his previous stunts, it is very familiar to us.
2013/06/04 07:05:12
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Gamma - you have still not answered the direct question. I put to you -
Do you accept that the events of the last few weeks are the same, if not remarkably similar to previous events concerning Mandelbaum?
As for aerithian not calling Mandelbaum direct - again, have you not read the reams of allegations against Mandelbaum over what happens if you do call direct? Lets not forget he tried to get the poor bloke fired!
2013/06/04 07:14:49
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Meh, don't bother with Gamma guys. Honestly no point in engaging.
When someone can't recognize the ridiculousness of accusing someone of 'recording them' while voluntarily leaving a voicemail, and then proceeds to label us as unreasonable there isn't much point.
It's not he first time a rare one of Mandelbaum's 'friends' has come in a thread like this to try to derail it with single minded and just inside the line aggression, picking only on supportive elements while completely ignoring negative ones or acknowledging responsibility.
As far as I can see most of the people aren't interested to see any other opinion then their own...Come on, Kim calls as wished and now you act as if it's Daniel making a call from audio clips? You want prove, but if they deliver it, it's fake anyway? That doesn't seem logic to me sorry...
Kind of getting the feeling that you don't want to believe it anyway..
Maybe because we are still waiting for the proof from the HH weekender and the tax registration number? Maybe because random messages from random numbers are like random C&Ds from random fale legal companies?
Anyway, as I said before, you don't matter anymore in this issue.
Could somebody please address my point that somehow went quite under with the phony phone call?
Plus one very big dodo which I just notice now: Resin Forge sent MajorTom (or to somebody else ?) the "proof" that they had paid the scammers from "Kim Hernandez"'s paypal account - so if my memory serves me right here. Why on earth they didn't claim the money back? You know, 45 days paypal protection and such???
EDIT: it was yakface. not MajorTom11:
I can confirm that the 'real' Michael Duerkop did receive a paypal payment from Resin Forge, however at the time that payment was sent whomever was pretending to be Michael Duerkop (and had the Britcons.com website up and running) also had access to that paypal account.
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After reading the emails from RF I was even starting to feel sorry for them and what they are going through, since all I was reading here was suspicion and quetioning of every single move they make as if everything was an orchestrated plan to rule the world. That was until I read this:
Art Steventon wrote: Drael earlier asked whether it would help to collate the various persons who have had issues with Daniel Mandelbaum / Matthew Bonder.
MajorTom11 wrote: I'll say this again, Daniel, as Matt Bonder, admitted to who he was when I called him out in no uncertain terms after 30 or so PMs while pretending to be Susan Bisley.
There is no doubt at all. So, 'Kim', either get your facts straight or be called a liar. Get a clue, no one is going to believe Susan Bisley was selling FW bits on ebay at the age of 60 while ill and her absolutely untrustworthy son had nothing to do with it when famous for scheming in the mini world! ESPECIALLY AFTER HE ADMITTED IT WAS HIM LOL. If you exist, which I doubt, then you are being victimized by Daniels lies. If not, you are just Daniel kicking up smoke as usual. Either way, you are going to have to do far, far, far, better than your current (and historical) MO to get out of this one. Try honesty sometime. Might surprise you.
Sincerely, your friend, Napoleon Bonaparte.
And some other posts around of the same nature. If you have not been around when the previous cases occured all this seems like too much of a hassle about a company with a big PR problem but once you really start to know the facts you see what a big mess this Daniel person has made and has brought to this company.
Some of you do have a vivid imagination but the fact are clearly speaking for themselves. Stick to them and you'll stick to the cause. I wonder how all this will end up. My take is that we will see yet another new company in the future.
Also, Art, thanks for taking your time to bring back the links.
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2013/06/04 07:52:12
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
It takes NO WORK to have some random gal read a script and call from google voice. $20, zero accountability, and then blame people for pointing this out.
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2013/06/04 08:33:09
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
It takes NO WORK to have some random gal read a script and call from google voice. $20, zero accountability, and then blame people for pointing this out.
Gamma310 wrote: Then why don't you call their customer service number? Accusing someone of calling late by intent to make sure you only get the voicemail is a cheap accusation...Just call their customer service number and talk to em..
Basically because people don't believe things Mandelbaum or Resin Forge say any more.
Their customer service number is a mobile phone, so it can't be verified. They could be operating from the back of a van parked under a railway bridge.
Everything Mandelbaum and Resin Forge does to prove their story is done in a highly complicated, evasive and unverifiable way. People are actually asking for a few simple, clear answers to easy, straightforward questions.
Example: Why are there no pictures you took to prove you went to the Horus Heresy Weekender?
Answer: All of the pictures that the staff took included faces of other members of staff.
Why not use Photoshop to blur the faces?
Why not post scans of your flight tickets and boarding passes if you have no photos?
Example: What is the company's business registration number? It's a legal requirement in Texas.
Answer: We are currently searching for a law firm who can do the work of re-registering the company to prove that Mandelbaum is no longer a member. When that is done we will re-register as an LLC and post the registration.
RF already claims the status of LLC, so what is the current registration number?
Why not use the same lawyer as last time?
Why use a lawyer when it isn't needed?
Forming a new company will not prove he isn't involved, because only directors have to be listed. He could still be an owner or an employee.
No-one asked for Mandelbaum to be disowned from the company anyway. That is something RF decided to do once they realised what a liability his name is.
Resin Forge asked me to post this. Thought you all would find it interesting. I did remove the Transaction ID numbers because I don't know how revealing those are or if they can be used to get any access to accounts or anything. It is otherwise copy/pasted with no edits.
Please provide this to Inquis Lex on dakka as hes now ignoring a customer of ours who has proved time and again how wrong they are about RF.
Also sending the ruling in our favor showing the scam artist trying to do the old "send me an item back then get a refund trick. We sent a blank letter, we will get our money back. We will not be scammed then laughed at by dakka people when RF itself paid 235 to Ken and 200 to Jean when he even had tracking. USPS fault, not ours.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <service@paypal.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM Subject: Status of case # #####
To: ResinForgeStore@gmail.com
Hello Stephanie Hernandez,
We are in the process of investigating the following claim:
Transaction Date: May 7, 2013
Transaction Amount: -$103.00 USD
Your Transaction ID: #####
Case Number: #####
Buyer's Transaction ID: #####
Thank you for providing the online tracking information for the returning
item. This tracking information has been shared with the seller. Once
delivery of the item can be confirmed, a refund will be issued.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Thanks,
Protection Services Department
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
PPID PP1101
There are 2 more if you want those as well showing each step from the start of the dispute to the full claim to us winning but being forced to mail a guy something when it even says we paid with NO SHIPPING NEEDED. Classic con man. Please make that clear, there are to many stupid sheep on dakka and we ar all but done at this point and its unlikely we can go on much longer with no sales. Just what dakka wanted.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:01 PM, <service@paypal.com> wrote:
Dear Stephanie Hernandez,
We have received your request to escalate this dispute to a claim. PayPal
may review any communication you've had with the seller in the Resolution
Center and contact you for additional information.
If we contact you for more information, please respond within the
timeframe. If you do not respond within the timeframe, the case may be
closed and decided in the seller's favor.
This email was sent by an automated system, so if you reply, nobody will
see it. To get in touch with us, log in to your account and click "Contact
Us" at the bottom of any page.
I may be getting confused now, I thought the buisness was Kim, Jason and formerly Daniel. Who's Stephanie?
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2013/06/04 09:05:36
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
More proof Resin Forge is STILL reading this thread contrary to all previous vows (we didn't post our remark about paypal on Facebook)
Please provide this to Inquis Lex on dakka as hes now ignoring a customer of ours who has proved time and again how wrong they are about RF.
Who are we ignoring then? Allegedly - DW? Nah, still talking to him - Dylan M? Nah, HE was the one who blocked us after realizing we were not interested in the normal stock but just in HH weekender pics. His last post is in this thread.
- Dome/Gamma? He didn't say anything about paypal. We are just not interested if he has no direct products from the HH weekender because there is nothing he can bring that would be relevant for us.
So which "mystery customer" are we ignoring? Also, RF, since you are reading that clearly, here as a kind reminder our last request that you ARE ignoring :
"So how about the pictures from the Horus Heresy weekender with the persons generously blacked out or blurred? Or a scan/ pic of tickets? Or of the order receipts for the Fulgrims and Preators ordered AT the HH weekender?"
Or maybe "an explanation how an LLC with Kim's and Jason's names will prove that Daniel Mandelbaum is gone for good and is not still involved unofficially?"
I think that's the essential people wanted to know after posting their last statements.
EDIT:
I may be getting confused now, I thought the buisness was Kim, Jason and formerly Daniel. Who's Stephanie?
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool. I completely missed that.
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Stephanie is Kim, Kim is Stephanie.
There is no spoon.
The emails are only partially convincing. Whilst on the face of it they show a claim being raised, there's no credence to the veracity of the information being supplied given its pedigree.
Also - it's not the 'sheep' who are putting RF out of business - it's their own inability to provide basic supporting Information in reply to direct questions.
What worries me is that once this sorry tale comes to its natural conclusion, how long before it starts again? How much distrust has now been formented in any new startup that attempts to scratch a profit doing the same thing?
There are no winners in this game, no victors.
2013/06/04 09:17:29
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
Emails proving that Stephanie who we know to be related to Daniel is the woman involved instead of Kim. So that's fun, they can't even keep track of their own names anymore.
"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
2013/06/04 09:36:31
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
And how does Stephanie raising a Paypal claim over something she purchased prove that Resin Forge is legit? And despite Stephanie/Kim sending money, they put Daniel in the letter anyway? Such a tragedy of errors.
And they are still completely unable and/or unwilling to come here and make an account instead of hiding behind proxies and refuse to answer the simple questions.
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2013/06/04 09:50:18
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
"We have no choice but to get legal council to show YOU, LEX, proof how the company is now owed by Kim and Jason. "[...]
"And I am a woman, the entire paypal system is in my name. I call them all the time. The entire talk of fake owners is old at this point."
The name isn't really a contradiction. I know at least 3 women who go by their middle name, but use their first name on anything official.
The C&D letter being "official" they would have had to write "Stephanie Hernandez" then. Plus if they insist (see my quote) that the paypal system is on the name "Kim" and then it turns out it is on the name Stephanie, that is a contradiction. And if it is not a contradiction, we are still waiting for that LLC that would show Stephanie Hernadez then. Making diverse other statements contradictory
In any case it would be interesting to know what name the paypal mails yakface saw was sporting. Kim or Stephanie.
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Does Resin Forge make the claim that Michael Duerkop rang them up and fraudulently pretended to be a security company in Germany, and offered to do a C&D letter for $103?
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