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A mob assembled outside the Canons Gait pub in Edinburgh's Royal Mile while Mr Farage was inside.

Witnesses said the crowd, which had been organised via social networking sites, shouted "You know as much about Scotland as you do about landing a plane",and told the politician to "go home."

Police had to escort Mr Farage from the pub for his own safety, and as he was driven away in a police van the crowd reportedly chanted "scum, scum, scum".

A mob gathered outside the Edinburgh pub which Nigel Farage was visiting - Twitter/@severincarrell

Mr Farage visited Edinburgh as part of a plan to build on electoral gains in England and start winning in Scotland.

The party, which wants Britain to leave the European Union, has no representation north of the border and polled just 0.91% of the total vote across the regions in the last Holyrood election in 2011.

Earlier this week Mr Farage, a member of the European Parliament, said: "We are growing in Scotland and have every intention of winning seats both at Holyrood and in next year's

European elections north of the border. A fantasy? Not in the slightest."

The party plans to make a start by contesting the Aberdeen Donside seat at Holyrood, made vacant by the death of SNP MSP Brian Adam last month.

Wow, doesn't sound like a popular guy.

He isn't.

Hes a pure, utter, vile scumbag who deserves many horrible things to happen to him.

Not surprised Edinburgh didn't take any of his gak.

Then again, same can be said for Labour, the Tories, Lib Dems and the Greens in general.

A lot of people in my part of the country feel he is some sort of messiah. These are the sort of people willing to stand up and claim "they took our jobs"

Personal my understanding of how leaving Europe will effect the UK and indeed the rest of Europe is not developed enough for me to form any opinion other than "better the devil you know"

UKIP are basically a one policy party though and anyone that wishes to be represented by a one policy party is a fool. That said I welcome the departure from the three party two party system, I just wish our local and indeed national media would give more time to some smaller parties and independent representatives that don't rely on sensationalist sound bites

 Bangbangboom wrote:
A lot of people in my part of the country feel he is some sort of messiah. These are the sort of people willing to stand up and claim "they took our jobs"

Personal my understanding of how leaving Europe will effect the UK and indeed the rest of Europe is not developed enough for me to form any opinion other than "better the devil you know"

UKIP are basically a one policy party though and anyone that wishes to be represented by a one policy party is a fool. That said I welcome the departure from the three party two party system, I just wish our local and indeed national media would give more time to some smaller parties and independent representatives that don't rely on sensationalist sound bites

I totally agree, To be honest I'm surpised Ron Paul was given any airtime whatso ever during the 2012 presidential race.
It doesn't help that the two parties in our 2 party system are polar-opposites of each other.

Well played the Scots, hopefully he'll start seeing a bit more of this. Him and his party are so arrogant about gaining 6% of the electorate and they think they speak for the people. Well I've met some of the people who they speak for and calling them people is generous, racist scum would be more appropriate.

Heh. I wonder how he's going to spin this for the cameras...

The thread title should have read Nigel Farage, trapped in a woman's body.

To be honest, this should happen to any of the main parties who come north.

UKIP is a joke... it is the party that wants to build more private schools, increase military spending, build more prisons and make bigger cuts than the conservative made.

 Mr Hyena wrote:
To be honest, this should happen to any of the main parties who come north.

No, it absolutely should not. This was an anti-racist demonstration, not an anti-English one. I don't think these protesters would be too happy picking on someone because of which country they are from.

The name 'Radical Independence Campaign' should say rather a lot. But some people are so tied up with PC dogmas they cant see beyond the witchhunt.

Farage is concerned about unchecked immigration, so he must be a 'racist' then.

 Orlanth wrote:
The name 'Radical Independence Campaign' should say rather a lot. But some people are so tied up with PC dogmas they cant see beyond the witchhunt.

Farage is concerned about unchecked immigration, so he must be a 'racist' then.

Sorry are we talking about the chap who once said "we will never win the n***** vote, the n** n**s will never vote for us", who called Belgium a non country, who accused Romanians of being criminals based solely on their country of birth, who has created ties within the EU Parliament with other far right organisations, some of whom actually support Anders Brevik. Yes, he is very much a racist.

 dæl wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
The name 'Radical Independence Campaign' should say rather a lot. But some people are so tied up with PC dogmas they cant see beyond the witchhunt.

Farage is concerned about unchecked immigration, so he must be a 'racist' then.

Sorry are we talking about the chap who once said "we will never win the n***** vote, the n** n**s will never vote for us", who called Belgium a non country, who accused Romanians of being criminals based solely on their country of birth, who has created ties within the EU Parliament with other far right organisations, some of whom actually support Anders Brevik. Yes, he is very much a racist.

Evidence for this please.

 Orlanth wrote:

 dæl wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
The name 'Radical Independence Campaign' should say rather a lot. But some people are so tied up with PC dogmas they cant see beyond the witchhunt.

Farage is concerned about unchecked immigration, so he must be a 'racist' then.

Sorry are we talking about the chap who once said "we will never win the n***** vote, the n** n**s will never vote for us", who called Belgium a non country, who accused Romanians of being criminals based solely on their country of birth, who has created ties within the EU Parliament with other far right organisations, some of whom actually support Anders Brevik. Yes, he is very much a racist.

Evidence for this please.

Not a problem.
You have the n word comment here
Calling Belgium a non country here
Romanians being criminals here
Being a president no less of the EFD, who have members who supported Anders Brevik, and recently made quite offensive comments regarding Italy's first black minister here

Satisfied?

 dæl wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

 dæl wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
The name 'Radical Independence Campaign' should say rather a lot. But some people are so tied up with PC dogmas they cant see beyond the witchhunt.

Farage is concerned about unchecked immigration, so he must be a 'racist' then.

Sorry are we talking about the chap who once said "we will never win the n***** vote, the n** n**s will never vote for us", who called Belgium a non country, who accused Romanians of being criminals based solely on their country of birth, who has created ties within the EU Parliament with other far right organisations, some of whom actually support Anders Brevik. Yes, he is very much a racist.

Evidence for this please.

Not a problem.
You have the n word comment here
Calling Belgium a non country here
Romanians being criminals here
Being a president no less of the EFD, who have members who supported Anders Brevik, and recently made quite offensive comments regarding Italy's first black minister here

Satisfied?

Not at all.

You have the n word comment here
The alleged racist comments are accusations by Dr Alan Sked, are not backed up by any other testimony and can and should be written off as sour grapes as he was a former leader of UKIP. However these accusations are quoted as irrefutable truth by the Guardian and by Richard Corbett MEP.

Calling Belgium a non country here
If you watch this its about how Herman Van Rompuy, who was appointed President of the European Council, and was thus unaccountable.

Romanians being criminals here
You have twisted this. Farage is concerned about the large number of criminals from Romania coming to the UK, not saying all Romanians are criminals.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/380512/How-Romanian-criminals-terrorise-our-streets
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9896121/Up-to-one-in-three-Romanians-arrested-figures-show.html
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_03_01/Romanians-are-the-second-most-arrested-of-all-foreigners-in-London/
Farage has reason to be concerned, and it is reasonable that he express those concerns.

Being a president no less of the EFD, who have members who supported Anders Brevik, and recently made quite offensive comments regarding Italy's first black minister here
Hold on you are accusing Farage of wrongdoing by being as member of this organisation http://www.efdgroup.eu/ . A group of parties, and Farage is not a member of the party to which the individual concerned belongs. That is beyond thin.

Is it bad that I kept hearing "Nigel" and the first thing that popped to mind is Nigel Thornberry?

This is hardly a popular outcry. A group of political activists all linked via twitter decided to mob him. That can happen to anyone.



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 dæl wrote:

 Mr Hyena wrote:
To be honest, this should happen to any of the main parties who come north.

No, it absolutely should not. This was an anti-racist demonstration, not an anti-English one. I don't think these protesters would be too happy picking on someone because of which country they are from.

Nigel Farage is not Nick Griffin. Seeing extremists and, let's be honest, usually hippie weirdos, harassing him in the street, will only do his publicity good.

 Orlanth wrote:

You have the n word comment here
The alleged racist comments are accusations by Dr Alan Sked, are not backed up by any other testimony and can and should be written off as sour grapes as he was a former leader of UKIP. However these accusations are quoted as irrefutable truth by the Guardian and by Richard Corbett MEP.

Why has Farage not made any claim of libel? It would certainly be good for his image as a non racist.
How is it made to appear as irreutable truth? It is quoted. The exact wording makes very clear it is talking about a claim.

Calling Belgium a non country here
If you watch this its about how Herman Van Rompuy, who was appointed President of the European Council, and was thus unaccountable.

So its ok to make a racist remark as long as its a subject you feel strongly about?

Romanians being criminals here
You have twisted this. Farage is concerned about the large number of criminals from Romania coming to the UK, not saying all Romanians are criminals.
Farage has reason to be concerned, and it is reasonable that he express those concerns.

His exact quote was

"We are not just talking about pressure on services from immigration but also, and I have to say it, the crime associated with Romanians."

Now, there is a higher number of black people in prison than white. Would it be ok for a Home Secretary to say they wanted to deal with "crime associated with black people"?

Being a president no less of the EFD, who have members who supported Anders Brevik, and recently made quite offensive comments regarding Italy's first black minister here
Hold on you are accusing Farage of wrongdoing by being as member of this organisation http://www.efdgroup.eu/ . A group of parties, and Farage is not a member of the party to which the individual concerned belongs. That is beyond thin.

It is far from beyond thin. I said he had ties in the EU Parliament with some unsavoury characters, he absolutely does. EFD are an organisation made up of far right political parties from various countries and some of those parties are pretty extreme. Is it not relevant that Farage alines himself with Nazis?

 dæl wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

You have the n word comment here
The alleged racist comments are accusations by Dr Alan Sked, are not backed up by any other testimony and can and should be written off as sour grapes as he was a former leader of UKIP. However these accusations are quoted as irrefutable truth by the Guardian and by Richard Corbett MEP.

Why has Farage not made any claim of libel? It would certainly be good for his image as a non racist.
How is it made to appear as irreutable truth? It is quoted. The exact wording makes very clear it is talking about a claim.

Why would he need to? Alan Sked is a blast from the past, a disgruntled former party leader who made a personal comment once about Farage. The fact that the Guardian and others keep on quoting it is due to their clutching at straws. After all your link is from 2005, the one I saw is 2004. This is a rumour that runs and runs and if we remember was running in the Blair years, when truth was hard to come by and spin was accentuated especially with regards to half baked accusations of right wing extremism.
The fact that this tired and quote, that is little more than hearsay is what we hear and not fresh topical accusations of racism, let alone transcripts is itself indicative.

 dæl wrote:

Calling Belgium a non country here
If you watch this its about how Herman Van Rompuy, who was appointed President of the European Council, and was thus unaccountable.

So its ok to make a racist remark as long as its a subject you feel strongly about?

It was an exasperated remark not a racist one. Do you have any evidence that Farage discriminates against Belgians? Me neither.

 dæl wrote:

Romanians being criminals here
You have twisted this. Farage is concerned about the large number of criminals from Romania coming to the UK, not saying all Romanians are criminals.
Farage has reason to be concerned, and it is reasonable that he express those concerns.

His exact quote was

"We are not just talking about pressure on services from immigration but also, and I have to say it, the crime associated with Romanians."

Now, there is a higher number of black people in prison than white. Would it be ok for a Home Secretary to say they wanted to deal with "crime associated with black people"?

Two points raised here. The first is the statistical evidence of high rates of crime related to Romanians, which is a fair comment to make and be concerned about.
second it would be appropriate for the Home Secretary, or any other poltician to deal with "crime associated with black people". In fact they frequently do.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3637720/It-is-time-to-be-honest-about-black-crime.html
the trick is how it is done. For example many urban projects with investment targeted at ethnic groups have 'crime reduction' as a purpose. What is this implying here? Ethnic crime is an issue and dealing with the issue is not automatically synomymous with bigotry. The link above indicates this, action is being taken, frequently, but the key is avoiding half baked accusations from those who wish to be offended or point fingers and scream "racist".

 dæl wrote:

Being a president no less of the EFD, who have members who supported Anders Brevik, and recently made quite offensive comments regarding Italy's first black minister here
Hold on you are accusing Farage of wrongdoing by being as member of this organisation http://www.efdgroup.eu/ . A group of parties, and Farage is not a member of the party to which the individual concerned belongs. That is beyond thin.

It is far from beyond thin. I said he had ties in the EU Parliament with some unsavoury characters, he absolutely does. EFD are an organisation made up of far right political parties from various countries and some of those parties are pretty extreme. Is it not relevant that Farage alines himself with Nazis?

It's exceptionally thin and does you no credit.
For a start read this: http://news.sky.com/story/915384/mp-apologises-after-tweet-sparks-race-row - Link shown for comparative purposes.
An article based on racist comments by Diana Abbot. Would you endorse crowds mocking her for her 'racism'? I hope not. Would you condemn the entire Labour party as white hating racists on the backs of her comment? I hope not. Would you assume she is permanently tarnished as a complete bigot, or just someone who made a gaffe. I would suggest you steer towards the latter.
However would you treat Farage with the same reason? Sadly not, because you dont want to. Its easier not to. I respect Farage because he points out the elephant in the room, that takes balls, not necessarily hatred. The hatred is something you assume because it releases you from having to counter his ideology with rational thought if you can hand wave and dismiss it as extremist and beneath response.

Finally why do you insist on the idea that 'Farage aligns himself with Nazis'. Which of these parties are Nazis? I will even let you get away with claiming Neo-nazis as the same as Nazis, even though that isn't what you said.
Accusing any party of Naziism is very low below the belt. For a start Naziism is illegal in most of Europe
Defend or withdraw your frankly hysterical accusation please. Your gross hypocrisy is showing through.

 Orlanth wrote:

Why would he need to? Alan Sked is a blast from the past, a disgruntled former party leader who made a personal comment once about Farage. The fact that the Guardian and others keep on quoting it is due to their clutching at straws. After all your link is from 2005, the one I saw is 2004. This is a rumour that runs and runs and if we remember was running in the Blair years, when truth was hard to come by and spin was accentuated especially with regards to half baked accusations of right wing extremism.
The fact that this tired and quote, that is little more than hearsay is what we hear and not fresh topical accusations of racism, let alone transcripts is itself indicative.

Why would it be a good idea to contest a claim which is so politically damaging?

It was an exasperated remark not a racist one. Do you have any evidence that Farage discriminates against Belgians? Me neither.

Since when were exasperation and racism mutually exclusive? If his own words aren't evidence enough of his disrespect for the people of another nation then I don't know what else would be.

Two points raised here. The first is the statistical evidence of high rates of crime related to Romanians, which is a fair comment to make and be concerned about.
second it would be appropriate for the Home Secretary, or any other poltician to deal with "crime associated with black people". In fact they frequently do.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3637720/It-is-time-to-be-honest-about-black-crime.html
the trick is how it is done. For example many urban projects with investment targeted at ethnic groups have 'crime reduction' as a purpose. What is this implying here? Ethnic crime is an issue and dealing with the issue is not automatically synomymous with bigotry. The link above indicates this, action is being taken, frequently, but the key is avoiding half baked accusations from those who wish to be offended or point fingers and scream "racist".

That article is a joke. It is a gross misrepresentation of gang crime as black crime. Blair was stupid enough to talk about black crime and faced a backlash for doing so. You cannot ascribe criminality to a race, or target a race under legislation, that is racist.

For a start read this: http://news.sky.com/story/915384/mp-apologises-after-tweet-sparks-race-row - Link shown for comparative purposes.
An article based on racist comments by Diana Abbot. Would you endorse crowds mocking her for her 'racism'? I hope not. Would you condemn the entire Labour party as white hating racists on the backs of her comment? I hope not. Would you assume she is permanently tarnished as a complete bigot, or just someone who made a gaffe. I would suggest you steer towards the latter.

That's not even in the same ball park as the comments by the Italian ministers, how are they comparable? That's not to say she wasn't racist, she was and is rightly judged on it, especially by the left who have no respect for her any more. But to compare it to those comments about Italy's first black minister?

However would you treat Farage with the same reason? Sadly not, because you dont want to. Its easier not to. I respect Farage because he points out the elephant in the room, that takes balls, not necessarily hatred. The hatred is something you assume because it releases you from having to counter his ideology with rational thought if you can hand wave and dismiss it as extremist and beneath response.

It far easier to take his policies apart, they are uncosted, badly thought out, and would cause large amounts of damage to this country both economically and socially. They are a single issue party and have no long term plan for the country after that issue is resolved.

Finally why do you insist on the idea that 'Farage aligns himself with Nazis'. Which of these parties are Nazis? I will even let you get away with claiming Neo-nazis as the same as Nazis, even though that isn't what you said.
Accusing any party of Naziism is very low below the belt. For a start Naziism is illegal in most of Europe
Defend or withdraw your frankly hysterical accusation please. Your gross hypocrisy is showing through.

Did you read those articles? If those views aren't fascist then I don't know what is. Neither have been suspended for making such statements.

Defend or withdraw you accusation that I am a hypocrite. What have I said which is hypocritical?

 dæl wrote:

 Mr Hyena wrote:
To be honest, this should happen to any of the main parties who come north.

No, it absolutely should not. This was an anti-racist demonstration, not an anti-English one. I don't think these protesters would be too happy picking on someone because of which country they are from.

It should have been an anti-english one as well.

 Mr Hyena wrote:
It should have been an anti-english one as well.

Why? What have the English ever done to you, other than pay for your socialist policies?

For doing the same thing Farage is doing. Coming North and thinking like they know enough about us to be voted in here.

 Mr Hyena wrote:
For doing the same thing Farage is doing. Coming North and thinking like they know enough about us to be voted in here.

The Tories I could understand, but Labour have history in Scotland. Do you think that true scotsmen should be forced to vote SNP regardless of whether they agree with their policies or not?

SNP or any other other party which puts policies for Scotland first.

Labour didn't do that so they aren't that well liked.

 Mr Hyena wrote:
SNP or any other other party which puts policies for Scotland first.

Labour didn't do that so they aren't that well liked.

So giving you devolution wasn't in Scotland's interests?

Not enough really, since Westminster still has some say in Scottish affairs.

 Mr Hyena wrote:
Not enough really, since Westminster still has some say in Scottish affairs.

Nowhere near the say Scottish MPs have on English affairs. Westminster will always have a say as long as there is the union, we use the same currency so there has to be certain decision that have to be taken as the whole UK.