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Personally what is your least liked army in style? The army that just looks bland, boring or out of place?

For me im going with Slaanesh, they used to have such beautiful models, that reminded me of greek mythology style female demons. Now they are seriously ugly cross dressers with some very boring units like the Farming equipment sorry I mean Seeker Chariots. They just feel and look uninspired and boringly safe. I understand that GW is aiming for a younger demographic now but boobs = bad? come on guys its the 40k!
You play it safe for Slaanesh and you have lost the whole point of the chaos god.

I preferr the new look of daemonettes, we diddn't need more supermodel women in the game, and making them horrific monsters and female to boot, to me made it seem more mature, not less.

Personally, i'm not a fan of the look of Thousand suns, the crazy headcrests just don't do it for me, and I love tzeentch, so having the cult troops not look tzeentchy in my mind, is a bummer.

I hate how Tyranids look. That's pretty much it. Their aesthetic has never appealed to me. Pretty much every army has at least one model I nod my head at and say "I could paint that." Not Tyranids.

Im sorry, but there really is no competition here.
The older ones by diaz are great models.
The new ones, erm, im not sure where to start with whats wrong.

Every army has its low points, but overall I dislike the demons as a range the most. There are some high points, but I don't like any of the war machines, and some of the demon types just fall flat to me.

Looks are entirely subjective though, so YMMV.

All space marine chapters look completly identical except colour which makes them all bland and boring

Orks. More specifically, the regular Ork Boyz. The Gorilla butt poses have to go.

 Jackal wrote:





Im sorry, but there really is no competition here.
The older ones by diaz are great models.
The new ones, erm, im not sure where to start with whats wrong.

Maybe it's just a gal-gamer thing, but I still prefer the new models. When I want to play the horrific monsters from beyond the universe, I want to play something horrific and disarmingly creepy, not just a naked chick with some extra boobs added. Slaanesh is about more than boobs.

The sisters models are badly in need of updating. But everyone agrees on that. I'd say catachan are uglier than they need be for a plastic kit, though.

I don't want to derail the thread too much but I'm with Evileyes, New Daemonettes> Old Daemonettes, but that's a topic for a different thread.

I think Sisters of Battle are the worst, the execution is just terrible. Concept wise a gothic space ecclesiarchy is about as 40k as 40k can get but man are they hideous.

40k:

ATM it's chaos for me, because the entire range is spread across several aesthetics, designs and about 15 years of minis. Together on a table, the whole thing looks messy for me, not least of all for the 'hey, we put spike on our gak!' half hearted sculpting/modeling that's gone on.

The Dark Vengence set and several of the minis that came out around the same time were a great improvement on the prior 'horns n spike' marines, but without a reworked rank and file kit, no go.



Fantasy:

All the Elf armies need a serious re-tool. The Wood Elves far more than the other two, they have such an amazing concept, Neutral, violent, savage celtic wild hunt elves and yet the models fall so incredibly short of what's needed, that and the range is ancient, and again, disjoined in it's aesthetic.



Warmahordes:

Skorne, they just utterly fail to capture my imagination and again, it's a shame, cos their background is very cool, but they just don't inspire as a range.

Catachan, Eldar and Sisters infantry are all bad designs imo. Everything else has at most a few sculpts that I don't like but the rest is fine. Dino bots for chaos, dreadnoughts for any SM flavour, that big stompy thing for Orks, stealth suits for Tau.

Necrons is the only army I like every sculpt for I think, despite not liking certain aspects from some such as the pilot of the scythes being visible.

I guess for 40k some of the Eldar range is ugly to me like the warp spiders but no army is just won't play it bad for me. Now for fantasy I can't stand the Dwarf range. The front of the models is all beard and toes. They did not do the stunties justice.

I'm probably alone on in this one but I think the imperial guard infantry armies look so boring. I like this game for the high fantasy and future tech, and then someone comes In With their ww2 IG. On the other hand, the tank models are pretty cool and a mech guard army does catch my eye.

Chaos Daemons. Boring models and boring vehicles. They really could do a better job with an army that's supposed to be a collection of horrors from beyond our universe.

I like both daemonettes. I always thought of them like this: The Old Diaz ones are what they look like to an allured onlooker and the new ones are what they really are.

TBH, the weakest part of range is nurgle. Those Daemons just look goofy. The other daemons could be scary but nurgle daemons look like dopey snot monsters.

+1 on sisters followed by the regular catachan infantry.

The problem with the Diaz demonette models is that GW has always represented the hermaphroditic nature of the demonettes with one male and one female breast, with occasional multiples on one side or the other. His models failed at the conception stage to represent slaanesh despite their appeal to young boys because they have tits on both sides.


Worst models have to be the catachans, by far but they have made an enormous pile of money for GW over the years.

Space marine flying potato is mock worthy as is the DA flying pope mobile.

The over equipped tech marine may be one of the most inane SM sculpts but there are a few duds here and there.

Werewalrus wrote:
Orks. More specifically, the regular Ork Boyz. The Gorilla butt poses have to go.

Oh god a million times this. Everything about the ork boy kit is perfect except for the stupid way their arses hang out. Its been bugging me ever since I started irks. Their spine literally is in the shape of a "J".

My vote goes for the plastic cadian line. Catachans can actually look decent painted up, but plastic cadians take a ton of work to make them look interesting. I still wonder why they ditched the old cadian look, it can't have been any harder to make as a plastic kit than space Marines are with their separate shoulder armor. Oh well, at least we have enough bits makers out there that I can practically make them myself.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Werewalrus wrote:
Orks. More specifically, the regular Ork Boyz. The Gorilla butt poses have to go.

Oh god a million times this. Everything about the ork boy kit is perfect except for the stupid way their arses hang out. Its been bugging me ever since I started irks. Their spine literally is in the shape of a "J".

At least it's better than the previous scrawny ork models with their look of pleasant constipation.

IG Tanks bore me and look silly in proportion. A lot of the Chaos Marine stuff is flat out goofy.

I think all the art work across the armies produce great models, but most of the stuff in Fantasy just doesn't strike a chord. I'm building a Skaven army, cause I mean, rats n stuff, but outside of that, it seems just a bit too generic.

I feel as if the Tau is a bit out of place in terms of aesthetic (among other things) in this universe, so it's Tau for me. That's just my personal bias though.

To be fair to guard, you have to have someone play the straight man. Someone to represent "normal" so that everything else looks crazier.

Anyways, I'll kind of mirror the disappointment with the recent demons and CSM minis (especially dark vengeance, which was a let-down for me, especially given just how good the DA minis look). I also think that the clown-colored bug-lizard things that masquerade as an intergalactic terror are dumb as well.

That said, all of those models, in the hands of good painters, at least stand a chance of looking good, whether it being cthulhu tyranid, or hordes of CSM terminators, for example.

My vote, therefore, goes to the army that no one, not even good painters, can make look good. My vote, then, goes to dark eldar.

To begin with, all of their old stuff is complete and utter garbage. In case you forgot, until very recently, this is what their wyches looked like:



While other ranges have some good looking older minis, not so with dark eldar.

Now, their current range has helped things out an awful lot, and their new talos engine looks downright cool, but... well...



I still see an army with lots of awkward detail (really, a top knot held in place by a bone? How many random spikes do you need? etc.), and, well, minis that look so bad that the only way you can make them look remotely decent is by painting them black.

That and some of their units, like grotesques, are just lolwhut awful. Well-executed awful, but still awful.

I just can't stand the "new" Tau stealth suits. To me they honestly look like toasters with arms and legs. It doesn't fit into the other suit's aesthetic at all.

So glad finecast still makes the old ones.

I would say the Tau chickens...Kroot are just stupid looking.

 Ailaros wrote:
To be fair to guard, you have to have someone play the straight man. Someone to represent "normal" so that everything else looks crazier.

Anyways, I'll kind of mirror the disappointment with the recent demons and CSM minis (especially dark vengeance, which was a let-down for me, especially given just how good the DA minis look). I also think that the clown-colored bug-lizard things that masquerade as an intergalactic terror are dumb as well.

That said, all of those models, in the hands of good painters, at least stand a chance of looking good, whether it being cthulhu tyranid, or hordes of CSM terminators, for example.

My vote, therefore, goes to the army that no one, not even good painters, can make look good. My vote, then, goes to dark eldar.

To begin with, all of their old stuff is complete and utter garbage. In case you forgot, until very recently, this is what their wyches looked like:



While other ranges have some good looking older minis, not so with dark eldar.

Now, their current range has helped things out an awful lot, and their new talos engine looks downright cool, but... well...



I still see an army with lots of awkward detail (really, a top knot held in place by a bone? How many random spikes do you need? etc.), and, well, minis that look so bad that the only way you can make them look remotely decent is by painting them black.

That and some of their units, like grotesques, are just lolwhut awful. Well-executed awful, but still awful.

Oh no no no, the new dark eldar stuff is, in my opinion, the coolest set of models in the game right now! Nothing looks more badass than a well painted dark eldar army imo. I love the tron feel

I agree with Ailaros to some extent... DE definitely don't need that many spikes, not only are they so easy to break, they're also power from pain... Now, if they add in the FAQ that everytime a DE player get pricked by the spikey models, the unit gets a free pain token...

And on topic: my vote is on sisters, was actually 1 of my initial choice until I saw those models... Ugh... I look forward to 2019 when they renew their codex and hopefully their entire model line.

I can look at any army and say "oh man i want that. I want to paint that so bad." except for daemons. I have never wanted a single daemon model. For creatures that are supposed to be the equivalent of hell spawn they just really aren't scary. CM and DE look evil, but the daemons have always looked more comical then evil. oh and they need to re do the phoenix lords. come on its been like 2 editions make some new bad ass models for those guys.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

Werewalrus wrote:
Orks. More specifically, the regular Ork Boyz. The Gorilla butt poses have to go.

Oh god a million times this. Everything about the ork boy kit is perfect except for the stupid way their arses hang out. Its been bugging me ever since I started irks. Their spine literally is in the shape of a "J".

At least it's better than the previous scrawny ork models with their look of pleasant constipation.

Better than old models doesn't equal good models. The current lot of standard Orks for 40k and Fantasy all run around looking like they're trying to do a crap.

I really get excited thinking about doing an Ork army, then I remember the Ork Boyz kit and immediately scrap the idea.

Orks (The asthetic just never really appealed) and CSM for me. GW had a chance to finally fix the Spiky Space Marines theme that CSM had fallen into and with Dark Vengeance i thought they'd nailed it. But nooo... an awful release later the CSM range is one of the most jumbled and silly looking out there.

And all you complaining about the spikes on DE? Remember they used to be seperate spikes you had to glue on... man... talk about fiddly.

Ork boyz may be silly, but orks as a model range isn't a total waste. Battlewagons and trukks and bikes, etc. still look cool enough.