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If you can find something explicitly stating otherwise, but till then, I'll go with what little solid info we've got atm.
That's largely irrelevant, even if it's true that means that the only people that could play used games are those without an xbox live account who are offline. This is using the 360 system as an example, who says you will even be able to create an offline profile on the 1box?
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Squidmanlolz wrote:Well, I didn't buy an alienware for nothing...
The only console game that I care about is Destiny, guess that I'll be playing it on the 360...
Being you can make a computer twice as powerful for the price of an Alienware....
But yeah, I assumed we'll see more game related stuff out of E3.
Heres a good way for the 1box to win E3. Buy out Oculus, make the rift 1box exclusive. Microsoft doesn't make televisions, also alot of the features for the 1box are already done by Smart TVs, which are a real focus of giants like LG and Samsung.
IMO that would be a game changer, which is something Microsoft desperately needs. At this point only a playable Halo Mmo build or the return of Blinkz the timesweeper at E3 could turn it around.
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It's sad how they try to dress its appearance up as something more than the plastic box that it is.
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Another crappy thing about the XBox One is that you can't bring over all of your XBox Live Arcade games.
But you can bring your Gamerscore!
Personally, I think Microsoft messed up big time here. If they offered backwards compatibility and/or the ability to bring over my XBLA games then it would be a no-brainer for me as I'm already invested with my 360. But by taking that all away from me, it's basically a clean slate; I have absolutely no incentive to get a XBox One now and can start thinking about whether or not I should get a PS4 instead.
And considering that *currently* it seems like PSN+ is a better deal than XBox Live, I may very well go that route.
Maybe i will just take my friends offer to help my build a gaming comp.
A fee for used games? No thankyou. I have to log onto x-box for my game? No thankyou.
I could forgive all of that, except it always being connected to kinenct.
This would be great. If I didn't already have a PVR, blue ray player and a computer for browsing the internet. Hopefully they'll sell some sort of bare bones version.
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Weeeelll, seeing as I only use my 360 to watch Netflix/Hulu in the living room and amuse my girlfriend's sisters with fruit ninja and other Kinect games when they come over, this seems pretty well tailored to me. On the other hand, I only use my 360 to watch Netflix/Hulu in the living room and amuse my girlfriend's sisters with fruit ninja and other Kinect games when they come over, so I have no desire to buy a whole new system.
E3 is pretty much just for the game press, not casuals. Though I'm sure everyone will welcome an E3 that's actually about games and not about... whatever the feth Microsoft has been doing at E3 the last four years
daedalus-templarius wrote: Personally I thought the cross-media stuff sounds great, since I use my current xbox for all of those things now.
Indeed, and who doesn't want to pay more to do the things they are already doing?
This. I think Microsoft is pushing the multi-media aspects of the system because that's what a lot of people use it for, but really, who wants to buy one in the first place when the gaming side gets ignored? Especially since PC's are cheaper for multi-media (in the sense that everyone has a computer anyway and no one charges you monthly fees to access Netflix and Hulu on a computer).
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daedalus-templarius wrote: I mean really, some of the new stuff they showed on the nextbox is literally not capable on the 8 year old hardware we have now.
Hyperthreading wasn't possible on old Intel processor designs, but Intel never bother to stop and ask "who is really wants this feature?" I think Microsoft has fallen into the pit of providing features no one really wanted (That's pretty much the kinect in a nutshell). But then again maybe I'm just out of touch. Turning the Xbox into a social networking platform is all well and good, but I doubt they can sustain that market while charging monthly fees for things that are free elsewhere (especially with the rumors that XBL is gonna get a price hike this year).
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daedalus-templarius wrote: I mean really, some of the new stuff they showed on the nextbox is literally not capable on the 8 year old hardware we have now.
Hyperthreading wasn't possible on old Intel processor designs, but Intel never bother to stop and ask "who is really wants this feature?" I think Microsoft has fallen into the pit of providing features no one really wanted (That's pretty much the kinect in a nutshell). But then again maybe I'm just out of touch. Turning the Xbox into a social networking platform is all well and good, but I doubt they can sustain that market while charging monthly fees for things that are free elsewhere (especially with the rumors that XBL is gonna get a price hike this year).
But... they have like 50 million plus subscribers to xbox live right now...
I mean, they certainly are 'sustaining' their current market!
I doubt they will raise the price of XBL, but I guess we won't find out until later.
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I mean, they certainly are 'sustaining' their current market!
WoW just lost over a million subs last month. Just because the player base is stable now doesn't mean it always will be. And if you're building your market around features that people might find convenient but won't necessarily shell out cash for in themselves, the question should be asked if its a good way to spend money.
Right now for example, how many XBL subscriptions exist solely to watch Netflix? My guess is none. No one is dumb enough to waste $15 a month on XBL when they can watch Netflix free on a computer. But Microsoft took the numbers showing that more people engaged in Netflix than video games on XBL and are running wild with it, forgetting that few people probably got XBL for Netflix and rather use it because they've already paid for XBL and they might as well.
I doubt they will raise the price of XBL, but I guess we won't find out until later.
That's what people said back in 2010. Microsoft just upped XBL's server count by over 300,000 servers. They're adding a mountain of new features, and thus far they've refused every chance to deny that the new XBox will be always online (on top of all the other online components of installing and playing games on it in the first place). Subscription growth has been steady but it's not like its exploding or anything. EDIT: And they want to setup a cloud system (though god knows for what reason...)
The price is going up or Microsoft is gonna start hemorrhaging cash on the most profitable side of their game system outside of product licensing (and Sony seems cool with that, Microsoft I doubt is).
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Well I guess we know which side will win this generation's console war.
Win?
To me it looks like they all lose because none of them has any gaems.
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
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