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Guard really don't need a new codex - a PDF update will do just fine.

We need:
Some kind of anti-flyer other than vendetta or hydra.
A few FoC changes (move sentinels into platoons, move hellhounds to elite).
A couple of pretty minor points tweaks.
A couple of special characters that shake up the FoC.

Plastic Hydra and Armageddon Medusa (which can be weapon swapped with the basilisk) and we're pretty much done.

I agree with the general sentiment that, though guard doesn't need it (and thus won't get it), I'd love to see more stuff as scoring. 10-man stormie squads are great, and if I could take them as a scoring unit, that's all I'd need to want to spam them to the hilt - something I'd be able to do if I could take 6 squads per FOC. Likewise, I like the idea of being able to take some sort of armored company if they did the rules right. Or even a way to make rough riders troops. Hmm.

I disagree about the vendetta, though. It doesn't need to be more expensive, it just needs to lose its transport capacity. You'd fix most of the problems with vendettas and give people a reason to take valkyries in a single action.

Otherwise, there are a lot of things I'd like to see with guard, but there's no way they can do them without basically overturning what 6th ed did to them, which I don't think I'm actually in favor of. I'd rather see them fix the core rules than to patch what's wrong in codices.

The only things I could see while working within the current framework of 6th to ameliorate things while we wait for 7th would be some simple fixes, like taking chenkov as a company commander upgrade, and allowing any infantry unit in the army to purchase send in the next wave, or al'rahem being a company commander upgrade that could allow any infantry unit to purchase scouts. It wouldn't do much, but it would help.

Otherwise, all I'd REALLY want is a few tiny fixes, like making stormtroopers 15 points apiece (THE ONLY MODELS NOT DIVISIBLE BY 5!!!!!), and giving techpriests independent character, and giving the vanquisher Ap1 (ffs), and a bunch of little things like that. Most guard units need pretty minor corrections to jive with how 6th ed works, and to make a guard army play like a guard army again, we're just going to need not 6th ed, at least for foot guard.

Really, what I hope for the most is that they just don't screw it up. Imperial guard has been blessed with two good codices in a row. I just hope we're not due for a stinker.

 Ailaros wrote:

Otherwise, all I'd REALLY want is a few tiny fixes, like making stormtroopers 15 points apiece (THE ONLY MODELS NOT DIVISIBLE BY 5!!!!!)

These, 1pt searchlights, and 2pt bolt pistols/guns.

Everytime I see one of those upgrades it causes me to develop a horrible case of OCD.

I think you will get plastic Storm-Troopers IMO

 Scott-S6 wrote:
Guard really don't need a new codex - a PDF update will do just fine.

Hah! We will get that in the near future! In the form of a 50+$ hardcover codex !

And what I would like to see:
- Scrap the Orders system. Replace it with something constantly useful (like the old Close Order Drill/Iron Discipline/Command).
- Bring back the Command Platoon and the Heavy Weapons Platoon.
- Stuff back the Veterans into the Elites section and turn them into a Veterans Platoon.
- Combined Squads for everyone in the Platoons!
- Platoon level upgrades, like carapace armour, camo cloaks, USRs and such.
- Detach the Conscripts from the Infantry Platoon and make them a separate Troops choice with built-in Send in the Next Wave.
- Scouts and Hit and Run for Rough Riders.
- Replace the Vendetta with the Vulture.
- Allow the Hydra to choose between Skyfire and normal firing, like the Soul Grinder.

Give scout sentinels the searchlight upgrade as standard. They are supposed to be advance scouts, yet can't see where they are going. I have a pathological aversion to 1pt upgrades.

 Dannyevilguy wrote:
Baneblade/Stormlord as a normal codesx choice with reduced power of course.
Warlord Traits chart for each type of guard army. (Catachan, Mordian, Cadian, Vostroyan, etc)
Make Ogryn cheaper.
A Primaris Psyker special character that is a level 2 Psyker.

We already have that, now...you want a Malcador or a Macharius.

 Kain wrote:

 Dannyevilguy wrote:
Baneblade/Stormlord as a normal codesx choice with reduced power of course.
Warlord Traits chart for each type of guard army. (Catachan, Mordian, Cadian, Vostroyan, etc)
Make Ogryn cheaper.
A Primaris Psyker special character that is a level 2 Psyker.

We already have that, now...you want a Malcador or a Macharius.

I can never keep up with all the Forge World releases. Are these normal 40k legal or just pre-heresy?

 Dannyevilguy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Dannyevilguy wrote:
Baneblade/Stormlord as a normal codesx choice with reduced power of course.
Warlord Traits chart for each type of guard army. (Catachan, Mordian, Cadian, Vostroyan, etc)
Make Ogryn cheaper.
A Primaris Psyker special character that is a level 2 Psyker.

We already have that, now...you want a Malcador or a Macharius.

I can never keep up with all the Forge World releases. Are these normal 40k legal or just pre-heresy?

The Macharius is a regular 40k super heavy. According to its fluff, it's a knockoff Baneblade made by smaller Forgeworlds who can't make Baneblades to keep up with demand of super heavy vehicles.

The Malcador dates back to the Great Crusade though.

1. Remove combined platoons. (wait read on)
2. Make conscripts 20pts for 10 conscripts (up to 50 men, upgrades to include GLs and Flamers)
3. Allow Commissars to be added to conscripts
4. Lower storm troopers points cost
5. Do that with ogryns too,
6. Increase cost of valk/vendetta
7. make heavy weapon squads cheaper
8. Bring back drop troops