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**PsychoticStorm**

I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

**Minx**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

But that would entail shorter (perhaps stumpy looking) legs while most (all?) of their previous minis had really long legs. The concept art wasn't 1/3/3 either btw.

I'd like to see their 3d print first before commenting on this further.

**grefven**

Blondie, Cruz, Stroheim & Svetlana. I pretty much don't need anything else. Every unlock from this point on will just be a massive bonus.

**Jimsolo**

With Blondie unlocked, the only thing I really need is the snipers. Everything after that is just icing.

**PsychoticStorm**

Minx wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

But that would entail shorter (perhaps stumpy looking) legs while most (all?) of their previous minis had really long legs. The concept art wasn't 1/3/3 either btw.

I'd like to see their 3d print first before commenting on this further.

Most are 1/3/3 with a few 1/3/3,5, definitely none 1/2/3

**Crimson**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

So you think their torso should be as long as their legs? I assure you, that would look weird, human legs are considerably longer than torsos. Proportion of torso and the legs is quite correct on the renders. They're just slightly stockier an have bigger heads than real humans.

**PsychoticStorm**

Crimson wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

So you think their torso should be as long as their legs? I assure you, that would look weird, human legs are considerably longer than torsos. Proportion of torso and the legs is quite correct on the renders. They're just slightly stockier an have bigger heads than real humans.

Well I could argue, but I will just link wikipedia for the moment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_drawing

**Crimson**

PsychoticStorm wrote:

Well I could argue, but I will just link wikipedia for the moment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_drawing

So you link an article demonstrating that I'm right? Okay.

If you don't believe me, maybe you believe Leonardo? Notice how crotch is at halfway of the figure. Legs are way longer than the torso. Everyone who understands anatomy knows this.

**keltikhoa**

Ok did some PhotoFu. The very leggy Tyra Banks provided a nice reference. This shows her proprotions at 1,3,4. and i reduced her proportions to 1,2,3. (also shrunk the width to try an compensate a bit) but the result is still quite odd looking

**PsychoticStorm**

sigh

For those working without visual reference (or as a means of checking one's work), proportions commonly recommended in figure drawing are:
An average person is generally 7-and-a-half heads tall (including the head). This can be illustrated to students in the classroom using paper plates to visually demonstrate the length of their bodies.
An ideal figure, used for an impression of nobility or grace, is drawn at 8 heads tall.
A heroic figure used in the depiction of gods and superheroes is eight-and-a-half heads tall. Most of the additional length comes from a bigger chest and longer legs.
Note that these proportions are most useful for a standing model. Poses which introduce foreshortening of various body parts will cause them to differ.

As I said the usual is 1/3/3, idealized its 1/3/4, in any case 1/2/3 is not what the human body looks like, now if you like, spin it as you may want, the fact is the 2 heads torso is too short.

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I will also add these two

**Crimson**

PsychoticStorm wrote:

As I said the usual is 1/3/3,

No it's not. Torso being same length as legs is just flat out wrong.

idealized its 1/3/4,

Close enough, though you have to account neck, which actually makes torso less than 3/8.

in any case 1/2/3 is not what the human body looks like, now if you like, spin it as you may want, the fact is the 2 heads torso is too short.

Obviously not. Humans are not six heads tall. These are stylised miniatures though. You also notice that the render of the soldier has torso slightly over 2 heads, making it correctly proportioned in relation of the legs.

The adjusted image actually has too long torso. The rifle being in front of her helps to hide this.

**Kroothawk**

Crimson wrote:
Torso being same length as legs is just flat out wrong.

Sorry, this statement is flat out wrong. There are people with proportional shorter legs (e.g. in Japan, Italy), where this is more or less correct.

**Minx**

The adjusted helmet seems to be too small as well.

**HisDivineShadow**

I actually really like the adjusted 28. Looks like a good compromise

**BobtheInquisitor**

Why are people using her helmeted head as the head size? There's padding in there, right? Giving her a body 7 helmets tall would make her gargantuan.

**Breotan**

The adjusted helmet on the far right looks more like what an unhelmented head would be. Also, the torso is covered in armor so it would tend to be slightly thicker than one of the Jail Bait figures.

Still, I like the adjusted 28mm legs and hips more than the proposed 28mm. The proposed one seems a little unnatural when I look at it.

**Mathieu Raymond**

I say proposed 28mm, but with the adjusted chest girth.

**Minx**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
Minx wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really and honestly hope they redo all the renders in 1/3/3 I hate that squashed torso, I feel it ruins a perfect model.

But that would entail shorter (perhaps stumpy looking) legs while most (all?) of their previous minis had really long legs. The concept art wasn't 1/3/3 either btw.

I'd like to see their 3d print first before commenting on this further.

Most are 1/3/3 with a few 1/3/3,5, definitely none 1/2/3

I just checked most of the concept art. None of them were 1/3/3.

**PsychoticStorm**

can you show examples and also give proportions?

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also a less anorexic version of the crazy doc

**Minx**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
can you show examples and also give proportions?

Just grab one at random.

**PsychoticStorm**

Minx wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:
can you show examples and also give proportions?

Just grab one at random.

Ill concede you are right its 1/3/4 my eyes tricked me, still happy with more legs, but the fact remains the chest is 3 heads not 2.

in any case I will be happy if the models are either 1/3/3 or 1/3/4, what I do not like is the 1/2/3 proportions they have now.

**deleted20250424**

It must be exhausting to carry on this same argument in 2 threads on 2 sites at the same time.

I like what I've seen so far.

RH can't make all the people happy all the time. There's no way to pander to each complaint/complainer or comment/commenter.

**Mathieu Raymond**

TalonZahn wrote:
It must be exhausting to carry on this same argument in 2 threads on 2 sites at the same time.

That's why we have tablets and smartphones, I guess.

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I'll be gone for the rest of the weekend, please, no one kill anyone else while I'm gone!

**Fafnir**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
Minx wrote:
PsychoticStorm wrote:
can you show examples and also give proportions?

Just grab one at random.

Ill concede you are right its 1/3/4 my eyes tricked me, still happy with more legs, but the fact remains the chest is 3 heads not 2.

in any case I will be happy if the models are either 1/3/3 or 1/3/4, what I do not like is the 1/2/3 proportions they have now.

Looking at my anatomy textbook, it's around 1/2.5/3.5.

As a general rule of thumb, the Femur should be about as long as the torso, but it starts a bit inside the pelvis. The Tibia is then slightly shorter.

1/3/4 proportions start to get to model (as in, fashion model) sized.

**PsychoticStorm**

No, that's why filtering is important, looking at their previous work in their sight hasty I think their work is 1/3/3 or 1/3/3,5 in proportions, should they sacrifice their stile and proportions to make cartoony, heroic scale models just to be better proportioned to fit GW models? in my opinion this will be a mistake and something that may cost them more backers that it would gain them.

**Crimson**

To people who think torso and legs being same length is not weird:

This is what it looks like.

And yes, I know East Asians have proportionally shorter legs than Europeans, but not that short. There is no population on Earth that looks like that. Some individuals might.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Aieeee

attack of the monkey armed women!

**PsychoticStorm**

That's a really bad, biased figure, but whatever, the main point of the discussion is the 2 heads chest is bad and unproportionate, legs can be averaged in 3, 3,5 and 4 heads, take whatever you may like, the 1/2/3 proportioned model RH suggested is bad.

**MajorWesJanson**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I say proposed 28mm, but with the adjusted chest girth.

This. They reduce the breast size and keep it at 28mm/Cadian/Elysian size, and I will find myself putting money into a kickstarter for the first time. I'm really liking the Kurgonova models, if they would drop the breastplate down to a less exaggerated size like they had in the concept art.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Jimsolo wrote:
With Blondie unlocked, the only thing I really need is the snipers. Everything after that is just icing.

Kruganova snipers and Ivanka Kruganova are the only models left for me to complete my "optimum pledge"... you know unless the Kruganova mech tempts $30 out of me.