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I feel we should all agree in not paying attention to this thread until proper news are there for us again.

Its not negativity, its practicality, negativity will come as long as people come here and see nothing new.

Better leave this buried until an update.

We should, but we were promised (ok, not promised, told there would be) an update by the end of the week. Last week. So is that news of a sort?

Don't their weeks start on different days than ours?

Well, that was my original thinking, though apparently the French convention is that the weekend is at the end of the week rather than the start of the week. So a comment on Saturday (17th August) about 'next week' would have meant anywhere up until midnight on Sunday (25th August). Even allowing for their previous trend of posting late night French time we're passed the point where an update could be considered to have come within the suggested time frame.

There was the brief appearance in the KS comments on Friday afternoon, where they said that everyone was huddled around finalising some posing so the update was going to slip. But at that point there was still time for them to get an update out within the week. Even allowing for a couple of drafts and a 'peer review' by other staff it should only take a couple of hours to get something put together for release.

The only way that a bit of posing on Friday should have realistically been allowed to push the update back is if it's a wave one sculpt and they're planing to put out the pledge manager in this update along with finalised / 98%+ done sculpts so that people can start choosing their rewards.

Except I suppose if they do not work on weekends.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'm sure things will take a turn for good once they start delivering.

I'm sure they will, but that's looking like it might be a ways away yet. They have 49 minutes left for their statement about an update "late next week" to be considered accurate - I get that they're leery of putting up unfinished stuff and getting a negative reaction, but crikey it takes five minutes to upload some screengrabs from the 3D sculpting software and write "here's where we're at, what do you guys think so far?".

Late. Next Week.
They said "next week", now it's late. See how that works?

Besides, because people were all so mean, they said they'd never make the mistake of showing off pre-release or WIP designs ever again. Shameful, you lot are!

Indeed quite shameful, I guess they never realized exactly how many of us kept our pledges because they promised to fix the WIP from heroic to what the concept art was promising.

If they had relished the heroic as finished they would have a nice drop exactly like THON had.

Maybe they're waiting until tomorrow?Then it would be exactly 4 weeks since the last update!

We could get a new one to celebrate it! And it would be about where the error was in Rasputins prediction (see their last post in the Kickstarter Forum) and about how warm it is in southern France and most of all about the upcomming Kickstarter projects they're working on!

Yay, what a fab update that's going to be!

And my best bet will be: no pics of this Kickstarter! No telling which models will be in the first wave of this Kickstarter!

I was a proud supporter of Raging Heroes. Emphasis on was!

Or maybe they are still blown away by their success at the KS game and need to drive that point home a wee bit further. Who knows?

The first wave will be an interesting experiment.

Yeah.. must admit that I something wonder what the heck they are doing...
but it's even worse with Avatars of War....

Ugh, you were in that one too, Ronin? You've had bad luck

Not that this will necessarily turn out like that, of course... but the issues with communication certainly are a bit reflective. I find it amazing that companies don't do the easy-to-generate-goodwill step of just posting a periodic update just to say what they're doing in fulfillment... it's easy!

And that's why I love Poots and gave him a lot of my money. The release is still some time out, but at least he takes the time to let us know what's going on and where we are with things.

Here, I'm glad I've got a tiny single mini pledge, so if things go tits up, it won't be as bad.

On the bright side, their Tumblr is seeing steady "updates" for sure.

Yeah. I bailed on that Avatars of War train wreck at the last moment, holding on only for the Standard Bearer.

I'm pretty convinced ill never be getting that.

 BrookM wrote:
And that's why I love Poots and gave him a lot of my money. The release is still some time out, but at least he takes the time to let us know what's going on and where we are with things.

Here, I'm glad I've got a tiny single mini pledge, so if things go tits up, it won't be as bad.

On the bright side, their Tumblr is seeing steady "updates" for sure.

What are they hyped up about on Tumblr now?

They lie. The tumblr blurb says that amonth all the gak they post on there, there should be behind the scenes looks at raging heroes (or Raginshiroz) miniatures.

I ain't seen none of that.

I'm really beginning to regret going in for this now, they can't even be bothered to post in the comments apologising for and/or explaining the delay.

Jokes and snark aside, gents - this is pretty much what I expected from RH. I dropped a couple hundred off my pledge during the campaign as I saw how it was heading, but I still went in on $150 or so. (Can't remember exactly how much).

Still, this is what I expected after my experiences with RH's pre-order models and their behaviour during the campaign: communication only marginally better than the absolute worst (AoW) and lots of delays. I expect poor/sub par communication to be ongoing. I also expect quite a lot of delays and missed deadlines. I expect that eventually, in the end, (late 2014, early 2015?) I'll have a bunch of quite lovely character models.

Until then of course, I'll be continuing to contribute to the most shameful, most negative thread ever in the history of Dakka (or Western Civilisation, for that matter!). But rest assured, that it's all tongue in cheek. At this stage, anyway.

I agree that little communication, and delays, should be expected here. Really might as well let the thread lie dormant until they do update... Unfortunate, but easy to predict based on track record.

Luckily, also based on track record, the models should be excellent when they do release!

You know, I looked at the metric assload of crap I should be receiving from KSes in 4Q2013 and its a but embarrassing and makes me feel better about not pledging this.

Dreadball, Wild West Exodus, Relic Knights (maybe ), Kingdom Death, Arena Rex, Rivet Wars and the rest of Sedition Wars.

My wife is going to effin murder me.

 cincydooley wrote:
You know, I looked at the metric assload of crap I should be receiving from KSes in 4Q2013 and its a but embarrassing and makes me feel better about not pledging this.

Dreadball, Wild West Exodus, Relic Knights (maybe ), Kingdom Death, Arena Rex, Rivet Wars and the rest of Sedition Wars.

My wife is going to effin murder me.

Quick, somebody find this man a Kickstarter for flowers and chocolate!

 Alpharius wrote:
What are they hyped up about on Tumblr now?

As said by Mathieu, all they do is post random stuff on it.

el edit.

http://ragingheroes.tumblr.com/

 cincydooley wrote:
You know, I looked at the metric assload of crap I should be receiving from KSes in 4Q2013 and its a but embarrassing and makes me feel better about not pledging this.

Dreadball, Wild West Exodus, Relic Knights (maybe ), Kingdom Death, Arena Rex, Rivet Wars and the rest of Sedition Wars.

My wife is going to effin murder me.

You wouldn't need to worry about Q4 2013 for this one.
But if you want to divest yourself of some wife aggro, I'm sure there's plenty of people here who would happily "help you out"...

He's the latest from them on Tumblr:



OK.

 Alpharius wrote:
He's the latest from them on Tumblr:



OK.

They went all out and got a BeDazzeler for the office. WooHoo!

 cincydooley wrote:
You know, I looked at the metric assload of crap I should be receiving from KSes in 4Q2013 and its a but embarrassing and makes me feel better about not pledging this.

Dreadball, Wild West Exodus, Relic Knights (maybe ), Kingdom Death, Arena Rex, Rivet Wars and the rest of Sedition Wars.

My wife is going to effin murder me.

Yeah, I have a feeling that you won't have to worry about at least a few of those until 2014, anyway

Ugh, here we go, the crawly-bumlicks have come out of the woodwork on the KS comments.

Heh. I just posted an updated version of my post above in the KS comments. The key to this one is clearly to have very low expectations of everything but the final product.

That's why I'm not upset with the small amount of money I sent to AoW. I knew what I was getting in to, so I adjusted my pledge accordingly.

I feel the same way about the campaign, I guess it's also a good we weren't picked as sock puppets for their campaign then!

One campaign like AoW is enough for me I put in for just the standard bearer because it only cost me $15 and I can wait years for it (dwarves never lose their luster for me).

For me the difference was that the AoW guy wasn't spending all his time claiming he was amazing, promising delivery in 2-3 months from completion of the campaign, and that he was 80% done or later claiming everying was individually 80% done. I figured I'd just get to annoyed

Curiosity, has the Avatars of War thing been resolved by now?