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... that sounds like my family history, mate.

I think that because they want to keep it dynamic will mean they'll have to do this in-house, as you and prankster said.

The worse part is, there is no polite or constructive way to say the following to them: You lied. You knew you were lying and you did it regardless. Either that, or you are not capable of handling the type of operation you set yourself up for, and you're going to take us all down with you.

To be specific, which lie are you talking about Mathieu?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
You lied. You knew you were lying and you did it regardless. Either that, or you are not capable of handling the type of operation you set yourself up for, and you're going to take us all down with you.

"Because we can! Or maybe we were lying to ourselves all along?"

In all seriousness, if they are still blown away by the final result then they are truly and wholly unprepared for something of this scale, despite all the claims of preparations and whatnot. This isn't a set of three or five minis but rather a whole lot more and the community is a wee bit more passionate and invested in this because you already have their money. I think in their desire to deliver the best of the best sculpts they adopted a tunnel vision and ignore everything else in favour of getting the important part right.

Also, I found this from the KS comments interesting:

At this time, I fear that TGG as a community united about an universe, figures, ... seems to fall in parts, or at least lost the dynamic the KS campaign have about three months ago.
And it's a problem if LnR want to do more than only a figures collection.
Think about some other successfull companies (doing good figures) : they have either a solid game ruleset or interesting "fluff"/art/stories to maintain a large fanbase.
Since we don't know anything about TGG ruleset (told to be "in the future"), "artistic" side would have been the way to feed the fans.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
To be specific, which lie are you talking about Mathieu?

Nice image change, mate.

I'm refering to many things, but to the general as well. First off, we all knew that the original goal was a fallacy to make it look like they hit big. That can almost be forgiven given the egos we're dealing with.

To say that they weren't ready for those 150 minis is bollocks, to put it mildly. They had bandied that number about long before even the start of the campaign, the artwork was ready, they knew that was their goal all along. To have the trikes, puppies and jetgirls delayed would have been completely understandeable, as they were nowhere near the horizon at the beginning of the campaign.

Since they also knew that their sculpting method was so earth-shatteringly cool and complex, September was nothing but a pipe dream. It was fed to the community with 3D prints of (3, 4?) minis to make it believable, but I will say it, they never had the intention of having a finished product delivered and ready for sale by this month.

For the reasons above, mainly, I say they lied. And they had their heralds lie to us for them, hopefully diffusing the blame. Or cutting themselves off from it.

And to everyone telling us malcontents to just shut our mouths because the products will be gorgeous, I would like to submit two case studies for your consideration: 1)the test renders of the KST heavies, which didn't look like the artwork much and they seemed pretty confident about. Now there is no community feedback anymore. So allow me to remain sceptical. 2)Rackham. Gorgeous sculpts in metal, wonderful game, rich universe. "Oh look, we can make more money, let's release a game so vast all at once with "ok" sculpts, prepainted and not enough universe. Let's see if that will pull us under."

They are not in the boiler room, and we are not Wall Street. A fake bubble will implode pretty quickly.

Wow, nicely said!

Now, I dare you to post that bit of hard truth in the comments section.

French or English?

Whichever conveys the message best.

French, it has to be in French, right?

Though, really, why not both?

Though, as true as it may be, it is rather...incendiary, and as KS Comments sections are...what they are, well, I'd expect that one to not be well received!

Aye, chances are the white knights and other assorted folk will simply tell you to go sit in the corner and be ashamed of yourself for even thinking something like that. Heaven forbid people having beef with the way things are run by people who have our money! Harrumph and all those other polite noises of disapproval.

I'm sure there'll be some people on there that agree with it.

Certainly, the points are valid and some of them have been brought up before, including whilst the KS was running.

They knew exactly what they were doing when they set the target at $12k and had all of the artwork put together. I think they also knew what they were doing with the changes to the stretch goals, setting them at a large interval early on to try and get more funds in and then switching to timed unlocks when things slowed down.

Still, I'd feel better if I could articulate those thoughts in English as well as Buzzsaw seems to be able to.

French would only reach a minority of backers, I think.

I don't know what they are thinking, but I would not dare to burn so much goodwill.

Aye, a minority of the backers yes, but it would reach the organizers better, as it is their native language.

Mathieu, I agree with you wholeheartedly, and you articulate yourself very well, in English at least. I just wonder if it'll be worth the grief to post that on the KS page. I think I'm done with that comments section, and easing off a bit on some of dakka's ks threads also. For sure there'll be people wo agree with you, but there are just too many who'll annoy, frustrate, and anger you. And they'll be people who are nowhere near as articulate as yourself. This only adds to the anger. I know that we have every right to voice any and every concern/grievance/question that we have. I just don't know if its worth the hassle mate.

Good luck anyway, whatever you do.

Alan

I'd say post it in English. The public posters at RH seem to have a good grasp of the language, and it'll make it easier for backers to understand it. Though I'm not sure RH would respond. They're busy sculpting / lost on the interwebs / responding to individuals via email / PM.

They need to seriously look at how they're going about what little communication they are doing. I'm sure they spend longer in a week with PM's/emails than it'd take to put out a project status update that answered the more general questions.

It could be that at this stage they are a mite bit afraid of what to say next in public.

Big update
lots of words

2 new renders

0 miniatures

lots of words indeed :(

Here is the new update:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/posts/596372?ref=email&show_token=b9f98e525de1bdbe

Back to School

Wow! We don't know how it's been for you, but here, summer just flew by. We can't believe it's the beginning of September as we've been keeping our eyes firmly on our computer monitors all these past weeks...
We've been torn between waiting for the Big Update with many of the finished sculpts of the first wave that many of you are waiting for, and not leave you too long in the dark with no news... And so, even if the Big Update is nearly on hand, it's past time for some fresh news...

Non-linear workflow

First of all, we have to say that we are really happy with how things have been developing and progressing. It's a bit frustrating for us not to be able to show you the entire process, but we've developed our workflow in such a specific way now that it's becoming part of our trade secrets... As we've told you in a previous update, on top of sculpting the minis, we've been working very hard on making many things much more efficient, from the first steps of the sculpting process to the last moments of sorting and packing the minis.

We think it's very rare for a small company such as ours to have the opportunity to do so much applied research. Before the Kickstarter, we were always caught with having to pay the bills at the end of the month, and had no room to really dig into the roots of our workflow, try new options, and create something completely new. Truth be said, the workflow we've developed and implemented this summer is exactly the original vision Benoit had a few years ago when we started Raging Heroes. But at the time, it required too much resources and skills we did not yet have.

So, to make it short, we are pretty excited about this. We are now working very much more like a visual effects or video game studio, with very well-defined steps. This means that there is no longer one sculpting artist creating a miniature from start to finish. Each sculpt is now created by a full team, with each member working on the steps they are most talented for. It is great because each people brings his or her own quality and skills to all the sculpts, and since this is a collaborative process, no egos are bruised when we decide to change or improve some things. Overall, it significantly increases the quality of the sculpts. So, this is also the main reason why we cannot show you one finished sculpt after another, because most of the sculpts of the first wave will all end up being ready at the same moment (hence the upcoming Big Update).

We've also involved ourselves much more in the mould-making process, and this week's tests are showing that we should be able to fit up to twice as many miniatures per mould as originally planned. So, of course, this means quicker production time, which is a good thing given the volume of this Kickstarter. And we're also working on other secret-weapon techniques for casting...

Also, if things go as planned with the casting process, we could end up with nice little sprues that will greatly help with the picking and sorting (which means, again, faster production) and will help keep sorting errors to a minimum. And if these little sprues happen the way we want them to, they will be great to help you pick, choose and sort the various parts you want to use and make your mix-and-match process of the multipart units more pleasant.

Upcoming first wave

This has also a great impact on what the waves will be. Even at this time, it's hard to give you a definitive list of the Troops, Support and Heroines for each wave, because the workflow keeps on evolving and improving nearly every day, and so, it opens up new options for us. This new workflow is like a big locomotive: it started slowly, and was very demanding at the beginning, it pushed everybody here out of his/her comfort zone, but every day, it's picking up speed and is getting more efficient.

What it means for you is that the first wave might actually be larger than originally planned, although it will probably be available later in the Fall rather than earlier.

Right now, here is what COULD BE in the first wave:

all the Regular and Heavy Troops (both the Troops and the Command Boxes) for all 3 armies (so 50 different sculpts)
between 10 and 15 Heroines (which should include Cruz, Tanya, Bernadette, Mimi, Punky, Krüger, Hilda, Nepharyaa, Volga, Karmina, Aaqila, Drusilla)
Harry the Hippo
Possibly a few more Heroines
And maybe all the Artillery for all the 3 armies (this means 9 other box sets)

Again, please note that this is not a FIRM schedule, but we are doing everything we can to make all this part of the first wave. Depending on the sculpting workflow as well as the casting, we may end up releasing a slightly different selection of miniatures.

Sculpts

We know that what you are all waiting for images of the sculpts. We promise you that there will be PLENTY of them in the next update. As a matter of fact, as I am typing this, we are preparing most of them for their final output, so this means that you will see them very, very, soon. As explained above, most of the ones for Wave 1 will all be finished over the same few days, and will be featured in our upcoming Big Update. In the meantime, here are two sculpts that are completely finished: Harry the Hippo and one of the Jailbirds/KST artillery pieces.





Heavy weapons, specialists, etc.

During the Kickstarter, we asked you about the weapon options you would want for the Troops box, the Command Group box, and the Artillery for the Free Upgrades. We received plenty of answers and altered our original plans so they would meet with your needs and wishes as much as possible.

However, when the dust finally settled this summer, we realised that there might be some confusion on what each box and its options actually stand for. On one hand, the Artillery boxes contain Heavy Weapons mounted on a mobile platform/stands. In most games, these stands would most likely be tripods. On the other hand, the Heavy Weapons that come with the Troops and the Command Boxes are all hand-held weapons utilized by one soldier only rather than a team of 2 servants.

Because of this, we think that the weaponry options available in the Artillery box and the Troops/Command boxes might double up, and that's perhaps a bit of waste for you guys. Since there is already a rocket launcher and a gatling gun in the Artillery boxes, we're thinking that perhaps it would be better to replace these weapon options in the Command boxes by other accessories, such as alternate arms holding grenades, mines, binoculars, etc., or perhaps additional optional heads to provide variety (which could be cool, for example, if you're trying to get some Iron Empire units without helmets).

So, what do you think?
Also, just so you know, you can see very specific visuals for all the Artillery boxes at the bottom of the KS page (here and here. For the Command Boxes weaponry, see the Heavy guns that Cruz and Aaqila are holding as a reference for the Gatling gun (yes, we do know that's it's not really a Gatling gun, but we've been using that word for lack of a better name); and for the grenade launcher, look at the weapons held by Tanya Tanker or by Katrina Zerga.
We'll be waiting for your feedback on this issue.

New drop ship locations

Our Drop Ship Programme continues to expand.
New locations are listed below.
The complete listing is here.

And of course, new drop ship locations are welcome so if you know a retailer who might be interested in joining, or if you are a retailer yourself, please click here.

Canada (Montreal, Qc): Le Valet d'Coeur
United States (Georgia): Morningstar Games
United States (Louisiana): +1 Gaming
Germany (21- Buxtehude): Spielebutze Buxtehude
United States (New Jersey): Jester's Playhouse
United States (New York): The Compleat Strategist
Sweden (Stockholm): Arcane

Artbook

Regarding the Digital Artbook, we realized something very obvious that we completely missed when we wrote down the delivery date of this reward: If we make an artbook about a whole new line of minis, wouldn't it be nice that the Artbook also feature sculpts and minis, and not just the concept art? So we don't intend to keep you you waiting until we have sculpted each and every miniature, but at least we would like to feature some of them in the book.

We'd really like to take the Artbook as an opportunity to include and showcase the entire process of the creative work of making the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy, rather than stopping at the design part.

This also means that we'll be able to show you the sculpts in a different way than what we usually show on the website. For example, we may use the 3D renders of the sculpts to create illustrations, stage them in various settings, the way we did in our Kickstarter video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLYMUnpxgp2F1mq2XFqh21P-fadWblZ3Gx&v=JDsQfTrHdMM

The artbook will also include a few original illustrations and here's a sneak preview: Svetlana, the Freedom Fighter of the Kurgans (see her story here), running with the wereshewolves and rallying her followers.



Survey and Pledge Manager

In the next coming days, we will send you the Kickstarter survey. It will be very simple to make sure that you don't have agonize over what minis you need to choose and be able to answer us quickly. It will simply ask you for your detailed contact information. It will also ask you if you have chosen the 3D sculpting and art direction webinar, which is included in the Connoisseur Pledge and Add-on.

Regarding the Pledge Manager, well, many backers told us they wanted to see the first wave of minis before making their formal selection. So we focused on getting that first wave ready before putting the Pledge Manager together, which should be soon now. As for us, the quantities needed for each mini will in the end have little impact on production, so there is no need for us to know in advance how many of each is required: what takes a lot of time is sculpting and mould-making, but after that, casting is fairly swift.

3D Sculpting and Art Direction Webinar

The webinar will take place during the last weeks of September and the first weeks of October. It will most likely happen during a week-end, because we figure that this will be when most participants will be available.

Overall, the webinar will last 5 hours, divided in 2 sessions. Also, each session will be presented twice, which will provide flexibility in scheduling. In the case you cannot attend the seminar, you will be able to let us know and we will provide you access to a recording of the missed sessions.

The survey will ask you if you have chosen the webinar, which was available either as a pledge (the 3D SCULPTING WEBINAR and the CONNOISSEUR BOX) or as the CONNOISSEUR add-on, so that we can contact and book you.

Well, that's it for now...

We leave you with a taste of TGG Digital Artbook, the layout of a double-spread you'll find inside the book, just to give you a feel for how it will look like...

Back to School

Update #75 · Sep 11, 2013 · 3 comments

Wow! We don't know how it's been for you, but here, summer just flew by. We can't believe it's the beginning of September as we've been keeping our eyes firmly on our computer monitors all these past weeks...

We've been torn between waiting for the Big Update with many of the finished sculpts of the first wave that many of you are waiting for, and not leave you too long in the dark with no news... And so, even if the Big Update is nearly on hand, it's past time for some fresh news...

Non-linear workflow

First of all, we have to say that we are really happy with how things have been developing and progressing. It's a bit frustrating for us not to be able to show you the entire process, but we've developed our workflow in such a specific way now that it's becoming part of our trade secrets... As we've told you in a previous update, on top of sculpting the minis, we've been working very hard on making many things much more efficient, from the first steps of the sculpting process to the last moments of sorting and packing the minis.

We think it's very rare for a small company such as ours to have the opportunity to do so much applied research. Before the Kickstarter, we were always caught with having to pay the bills at the end of the month, and had no room to really dig into the roots of our workflow, try new options, and create something completely new. Truth be said, the workflow we've developed and implemented this summer is exactly the original vision Benoit had a few years ago when we started Raging Heroes. But at the time, it required too much resources and skills we did not yet have.

So, to make it short, we are pretty excited about this. We are now working very much more like a visual effects or video game studio, with very well-defined steps. This means that there is no longer one sculpting artist creating a miniature from start to finish. Each sculpt is now created by a full team, with each member working on the steps they are most talented for. It is great because each people brings his or her own quality and skills to all the sculpts, and since this is a collaborative process, no egos are bruised when we decide to change or improve some things. Overall, it significantly increases the quality of the sculpts. So, this is also the main reason why we cannot show you one finished sculpt after another, because most of the sculpts of the first wave will all end up being ready at the same moment (hence the upcoming Big Update).

We've also involved ourselves much more in the mould-making process, and this week's tests are showing that we should be able to fit up to twice as many miniatures per mould as originally planned. So, of course, this means quicker production time, which is a good thing given the volume of this Kickstarter. And we're also working on other secret-weapon techniques for casting...

Also, if things go as planned with the casting process, we could end up with nice little sprues that will greatly help with the picking and sorting (which means, again, faster production) and will help keep sorting errors to a minimum. And if these little sprues happen the way we want them to, they will be great to help you pick, choose and sort the various parts you want to use and make your mix-and-match process of the multipart units more pleasant.

Upcoming first wave

This has also a great impact on what the waves will be. Even at this time, it's hard to give you a definitive list of the Troops, Support and Heroines for each wave, because the workflow keeps on evolving and improving nearly every day, and so, it opens up new options for us. This new workflow is like a big locomotive: it started slowly, and was very demanding at the beginning, it pushed everybody here out of his/her comfort zone, but every day, it's picking up speed and is getting more efficient.

What it means for you is that the first wave might actually be larger than originally planned, although it will probably be available later in the Fall rather than earlier.

Right now, here is what COULD BE in the first wave:
◾all the Regular and Heavy Troops (both the Troops and the Command Boxes) for all 3 armies (so 50 different sculpts)
◾between 10 and 15 Heroines (which should include Cruz, Tanya, Bernadette, Mimi, Punky, Krüger, Hilda, Nepharyaa, Volga, Karmina, Aaqila, Drusilla)
◾Harry the Hippo
◾Possibly a few more Heroines
◾And maybe all the Artillery for all the 3 armies (this means 9 other box sets)

Again, please note that this is not a FIRM schedule, but we are doing everything we can to make all this part of the first wave. Depending on the sculpting workflow as well as the casting, we may end up releasing a slightly different selection of miniatures.

Sculpts

We know that what you are all waiting for images of the sculpts. We promise you that there will be PLENTY of them in the next update. As a matter of fact, as I am typing this, we are preparing most of them for their final output, so this means that you will see them very, very, soon. As explained above, most of the ones for Wave 1 will all be finished over the same few days, and will be featured in our upcoming Big Update. In the meantime, here are two sculpts that are completely finished: Harry the Hippo and one of the Jailbirds/KST artillery pieces.





Heavy weapons, specialists, etc.

During the Kickstarter, we asked you about the weapon options you would want for the Troops box, the Command Group box, and the Artillery for the Free Upgrades. We received plenty of answers and altered our original plans so they would meet with your needs and wishes as much as possible.

However, when the dust finally settled this summer, we realised that there might be some confusion on what each box and its options actually stand for. On one hand, the Artillery boxes contain Heavy Weapons mounted on a mobile platform/stands. In most games, these stands would most likely be tripods. On the other hand, the Heavy Weapons that come with the Troops and the Command Boxes are all hand-held weapons utilized by one soldier only rather than a team of 2 servants.

Because of this, we think that the weaponry options available in the Artillery box and the Troops/Command boxes might double up, and that's perhaps a bit of waste for you guys. Since there is already a rocket launcher and a gatling gun in the Artillery boxes, we're thinking that perhaps it would be better to replace these weapon options in the Command boxes by other accessories, such as alternate arms holding grenades, mines, binoculars, etc., or perhaps additional optional heads to provide variety (which could be cool, for example, if you're trying to get some Iron Empire units without helmets).

So, what do you think?
Also, just so you know, you can see very specific visuals for all the Artillery boxes at the bottom of the KS page (here and here. For the Command Boxes weaponry, see the Heavy guns that Cruz and Aaqila are holding as a reference for the Gatling gun (yes, we do know that's it's not really a Gatling gun, but we've been using that word for lack of a better name); and for the grenade launcher, look at the weapons held by Tanya Tanker or by Katrina Zerga.
We'll be waiting for your feedback on this issue.

New drop ship locations

Our Drop Ship Programme continues to expand.
New locations are listed below.
The complete listing is here.

And of course, new drop ship locations are welcome so if you know a retailer who might be interested in joining, or if you are a retailer yourself, please click here.
◾Canada (Montreal, Qc): Le Valet d'Coeur
◾United States (Georgia): Morningstar Games
◾United States (Louisiana): +1 Gaming
◾Germany (21- Buxtehude): Spielebutze Buxtehude
◾United States (New Jersey): Jester's Playhouse
◾United States (New York): The Compleat Strategist
◾Sweden (Stockholm): Arcane

Artbook

Regarding the Digital Artbook, we realized something very obvious that we completely missed when we wrote down the delivery date of this reward: If we make an artbook about a whole new line of minis, wouldn't it be nice that the Artbook also feature sculpts and minis, and not just the concept art? So we don't intend to keep you you waiting until we have sculpted each and every miniature, but at least we would like to feature some of them in the book.

We'd really like to take the Artbook as an opportunity to include and showcase the entire process of the creative work of making the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy, rather than stopping at the design part.

This also means that we'll be able to show you the sculpts in a different way than what we usually show on the website. For example, we may use the 3D renders of the sculpts to create illustrations, stage them in various settings, the way we did in our Kickstarter video:



The artbook will also include a few original illustrations and here's a sneak preview: Svetlana, the Freedom Fighter of the Kurgans (see her story here), running with the wereshewolves and rallying her followers.



Survey and Pledge Manager

In the next coming days, we will send you the Kickstarter survey. It will be very simple to make sure that you don't have agonize over what minis you need to choose and be able to answer us quickly. It will simply ask you for your detailed contact information. It will also ask you if you have chosen the 3D sculpting and art direction webinar, which is included in the Connoisseur Pledge and Add-on.

Regarding the Pledge Manager, well, many backers told us they wanted to see the first wave of minis before making their formal selection. So we focused on getting that first wave ready before putting the Pledge Manager together, which should be soon now. As for us, the quantities needed for each mini will in the end have little impact on production, so there is no need for us to know in advance how many of each is required: what takes a lot of time is sculpting and mould-making, but after that, casting is fairly swift.

3D Sculpting and Art Direction Webinar

The webinar will take place during the last weeks of September and the first weeks of October. It will most likely happen during a week-end, because we figure that this will be when most participants will be available.

Overall, the webinar will last 5 hours, divided in 2 sessions. Also, each session will be presented twice, which will provide flexibility in scheduling. In the case you cannot attend the seminar, you will be able to let us know and we will provide you access to a recording of the missed sessions.

The survey will ask you if you have chosen the webinar, which was available either as a pledge (the 3D SCULPTING WEBINAR and the CONNOISSEUR BOX) or as the CONNOISSEUR add-on, so that we can contact and book you.

Well, that's it for now...

We leave you with a taste of TGG Digital Artbook, the layout of a double-spread you'll find inside the book, just to give you a feel for how it will look like...



Note: To see all images above in larger size, please right click and choose 'open image in new tab'.



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Well the do explain why they can't show stuff (and it makes some sort of sense)

if they'd only said this earlier folk might be feeling more patient

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
if they'd only said this earlier folk might be feeling more patient

I doubt it

So their workflow is so secretive that it's a trade secret?? What???

Wow. Busy night in the thread. Lovely post, Mathieu.
If you do choose to post it, you should best do it in both. English to reach the backers, and French for the more direct factor, not to mention the fact that it adds another layer of depth to the whole thing, really.

edit - typo

Well this is better, I still maintain they could have post it a month ago.

There is literally zero information in that update. That's flabbergasting.

There's plenty of information in that update, there just isn't any information you want.

Any way more on that in a second.

Whelp Mat laid a nice smack down in his comment above, and I heartily encourage him to post it to the KS in both French and English. (P.S. thanks Mat, I like the new image too, I felt it was about time for an Avatar change so I could stop antagonizing the GK players... visually any way)

For the update. Very nice, I really wish it'd been sent out say two weeks ago for the sake of others, I'm still feeling pretty chill about all this personally, but I don't have nearly as much money on the line as some people either. The update has told us what they're doing, how they're doing it and why things seem to be a bit emergent, broke down some interesting changes, particularly on the art book, as well as previewing it. I am now very much looking forward to the artbook and hope there is an option to acquire an IRL copy in the future instead of just the PDF. We'll see how the Big Update looks compared to this one and what all those sculpts end up looking like. I still haven't decided on if I want to do wave shipping or not yet, we'll see how far back in fall Wave 1 actually goes.

Sining wrote:
So their workflow is so secretive that it's a trade secret?? What???

Indeed, that would have scared the living gak out of me, had I been a supporter. As far as I know, not even Games Workshop have attempted to claim that they've effectively invented a whole new realm of ultra effective project management techniques that the whole world isn't aware of.

That just seems delusional to me.

That isn't what they said either. They also gave a general description of how they're working now and to my understanding both of the industry at large and just in a general sense, approaching individual minis as a group effort in the manner a gaming studio isn't exactly common if it's been done at all.

I also think you're giving a little too much weight to the term "Trade Secret" I've worked in many businesses and know more then a few trade secrets. They range in important from the formula for Coca-Cola or the spice blend in KFC chicken to some much smaller things then that, stuff you wouldn't even notice. All a trade secret is, is something related to the function of your business that you don't want to patent as patenting the idea would put it out in the world.

They don't seem to have a clue about project management, quite frankly.

It's at times like this that I ponder the French sense of humor and their... eccentricities.

It's certainly a verbose update, I'll give them that. Unfortunately, as Kalashnikov points out, it manages the trick of being full of information yet conveying... not too darn much. One is also tempted to note that they have apparently developed a "workflow" that explains away the seemingly ludicrous notion that everything is partially finished. Not to say they are being dishonest, merely pointing out a happy co-incidence.

More important is the First wave listing (potential, that is);

all the Regular and Heavy Troops (both the Troops and the Command Boxes) for all 3 armies (so 50 different sculpts)
between 10 and 15 Heroines (which should include Cruz, Tanya, Bernadette, Mimi, Punky, Krüger, Hilda, Nepharyaa, Volga, Karmina, Aaqila, Drusilla)
Harry the Hippo
Possibly a few more Heroines
And maybe all the Artillery for all the 3 armies (this means 9 other box sets)

This would seem to read that the freebies are not all going to be ready in the first wave (understandable), which means there is no way to simply cash out with one shipment.

With regards to the art book, can I say fairly unambiguously that I find their proposed image;


Substantially inferior to the previously shown concept art;


There is just needless crap all over the image, plus it's been cropped and darkened. The moment I saw it I was put to mind of the re-releases of Star Wars, where Lucas seemed have confused "improved" with "shove crap onto the screen".

RoninXiC wrote:
Big update
lots of words

2 new renders

0 miniatures

lots of words indeed :(

I think those are sculpts, not renders. Not the sculpts we really wanted to see, albeit.