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Still haven't heard from Mirielle on my end guys.

Mathieu the plan for phase 1 as it was explained was troop boxes, command boxes and some heroines.

Given the lack of updates anywhere public, that have been reported, and the apparent delays in responding to emails, anyone else think that they've been on holiday for a couple of weeks to recover from the excitement of pushing out the first batch of renders?

As plausible an explanation as any...

There's no statutory holiday in France at the moment. (Unlike the month of August, where it is commonly larked about that France puts the key in doors and leaves town)

KalshnikovMarine: I agree that the command boxes were *supposed* to be part of Wave 1, but things have been ammenable to change in the RH constellation regarding deadlines, so I can also see goalposts moving to finally get something, anything, out the door.

Ah, so when wave 1 consists just of troops boxes we should be utterly thankful for this non?

*crickets*

Has that been the only public-facing communication we've seen since the update?

~iPaint

Yeah, with nary a comment as to why it is so quiet all of the sudden.

You can all simply assume nepharaya won't be in the first wave as that's all I'm after and I have crappy luck.

Well that and she's a kinda complex model. Unless wave shipping's fairly reasonably priced. I'll probably just go "Ship When Complete" not like I don't have a metric feth ton of stuff to paint already.

Okay, they updated the Tumblr yesterday, so that should mean they are going to start talking to us again sooner or later.

 BrookM wrote:
Okay, they updated the Tumblr yesterday, so that should mean they are going to start talking to us again sooner or later.

So how long has it been, officially?

The update was very late on friday 11th (euro time).

This was the second of two comments in the comment section posted shortly afterwards;

"Creator Loud'n Raging on Oct 12

@Marc: you are completely correct: It's indeed a Kurganova and the image is mislabeled. Thanks for letting us know!"

They emailed me on Friday 25th.

We've got another year, give or take, until we see product, right?

Not according to update #21 from back in June (particularly the last line), but, you know, "fluid" and all that. Makes a good read now though....

"As you are probably aware, while our Kickstarter delivery date is planned for March 2014, the production of the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy is spread over several months.

Therefore, we already know that the minis will be produced in several waves.

While we know that everything will be ready to ship by March 2014 as stated, we have been very reluctant to share details of the “wave” production plans, because those plans are fluid.

Nevertheless, we know that having at least some idea of what's coming up can be quite exciting and can help with planning. So here is what we have in mind.

The first wave is planned to include up to 15 Heroines, as well as all the Regular Troopers (that is, the Troops Boxes and the Command Group Boxes) for all 3 armies. The Kurganova Heavy Troopers should also be part of this wave.

This, however, is not a completely FIRM schedule, since this first wave will also be when we finesse our production tactics and workflow. So there might be some more stuff, or there might be a little less.

Overall, we are aiming for 3 waves, or perhaps 4, by March 2014, but it is too early to commit to exactly how many there will be and what will be in them. Because if we do and things don't happen exactly has stated, then everybody gets understandably frustrated :-(
Sad but true: we have been burned too many times by our enthusiasm and our wish to communicate, and so we are now forced to proceed with caution :(
But again, what we can be FIRM about is that everything will be done by March 2014."

Think of it as a Zen exercise gents. Relax and let the stupid flow over you, meditate and seek a deeper understanding of yourself, the universe and French work habits, until extremely good minis finally appear, along with your own sense of growing enlightenment.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Think of it as a Zen exercise gents. Relax and let the stupid flow over you, meditate and seek a deeper understanding of yourself, the universe and French work habits, until extremely good minis finally appear, along with your own sense of growing enlightenment.

Exalted.

End results do not always justify the means of getting there in my humble opinion.

True enough, but then I do want the results, and I kinda don't give a gak about it otherwise. Just make it happen.

My zen is at 80% maximum capacity. I don't think I can go much higher...

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Think of it as a Zen exercise gents. Relax and let the stupid flow over you, meditate and seek a deeper understanding of yourself, the universe and French work habits, until extremely good minis finally appear, along with your own sense of growing enlightenment.

I'm Scottish, we don't do "zen" here, we do angry whisky-fuelled rage and resentment. Unless you're part of the Morningside/St Andrews set, in which case you do White Zinfandel-fuelled snippy passive aggressiveness

^I'll have what he's having. It's probably where Quebecers get both tendencies from.

Send Frankie Boyle over there to have a word with them.

Hmm maybe they split up the money and all went on holiday! :(

 Azazelx wrote:
Send Frankie Boyle over there to have a word with them.

We want to get them working and communicating, not reduce them to weeping gibbering shells of their former selves with no remaining sense of self-worth and an almost Lovecraftian terror of our pointless Stygian existence, which I hear is what happens to "normals" when they experience Frankie's humour

The trouble is I strongly suspect these chaps all have "proper" day jobs and just squeeze this in as and when, hence most of the communication and updates being out of office hours and always heavily delayed.

Now, I must say that the latest Tumblr update did show off some sweet jackets.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
The trouble is I strongly suspect these chaps all have "proper" day jobs and just squeeze this in as and when, hence most of the communication and updates being out of office hours and always heavily delayed.

RH is a full time company so far as I know, they've been at this for a bit.

I'm noticing an increase of negative posts in the comments section of the KS itself. Granted, those will soon be buried away under a flood of people trying their hardest to give it a positive spin.

Now, I want you guys' opinions. I posted a comment on the KS. To me, it doesn't sound negative, just matter-of-factly.

Be honest, am I off the mark in my assessment of my tone?

For the work-blocked:

Mathieu Raymond just now
I agree with Alan's assessment. A Pledge Manager at this point in time would be rather pointless. We have no idea of what most of the products will look like. I liked the concepts, but if the deviate from that or there are things that I don't find appealing in 3D, then I don't want to have allocated money to it.
There is also another important thing to consider with the pledge managers. Maybe some of us who are tired of waiting want to cash out their pledge as early as possible, even if it means getting a sub-par selection (not quality wise, but selection wise) to sever the ties as early as possible.
Jan: I think expecting Wave 1 by March 2014 is actually very optimistic. There is still over half of Wave 1 not presented as WIPs so far. If it took 3 months for that, then tack on another 3 months... there is just no way this can be done. For all we know they have been super busy addressing feedback to the WIPs in the last three weeks and not non-linearly working on new stuff.

Tone seems fine to me, though in situations like this there can be seen to be a fine line between negative and just stating facts. Especially when people are already getting a touch emotional.