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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 11:07:13
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[DCM]
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Exactly!
And as long as they can do it effectively...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 12:44:27
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I think they're well aware of the tightrope they're on right now with regards to that.
There's a vocal minority that's all for kicking off another KS right now, because the wait will be worth it, delays be damned and all that merry shouting.
It's better to wrap up the original stuff first and start afresh, hopefully with a new set of skills and whatnot to show that this ride has been worth something other than well, stuff.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 13:01:11
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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Didn't they write the sculptors are almost done?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 13:09:02
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Azazelx wrote:So anyway. I'd really like to see these guys fully deliver on this before they start another KS.
And how many times have we seen other groups (like Mantic) actually wait before starting their next KS?
KS fever doesn't just grip the people buying in. The people who start these things want to keep starting them.
Sadly, you're right on that one. Even though Mantic have managed to deliver on several now, it constantly feths with their ability to do normal business, and they constantly start new ones at the prefect time to feth with their existing ones - either PMs or actual shipping. You'd think they'd learn, but apparently not...
Even a "good" one like Battle Systems Terrain started their next one the very moment the first one was out of their own hands (and into Wayland's for the shipping).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 15:09:47
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I think we're starting to see the KS veteran companies calm down a bit on that front though.
Mantic seem like they're always going to be working on a KS at this point though, they are essentially a KS company.
This is going to sound pretty bad, and I don't mean for it to come off this way, but does it seem to anyone else that Continental European miniatures companies are often run by people with poor attitudes?
Avatars of War, Raging Heroes, Rackham (to an extent), now Gamezone, those Ex Ilis guys - all of them gave off an unpleasant attitude to me, a sort of "artist is always right!" feeling that I have rarely gotten from american or UK company (who tend to give off more of a "MRRRRWWWW PEW PEW PEW SPOLSIONS! YEEEEEEEEAAAAH!" feeling, which can be a problem in it's own right  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 15:30:33
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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Gamezone did a KS?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 15:37:00
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think they were behind the 'Heroquest 25th' thing, which got taken off kickstarter and went onto a Spanish equivalent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 16:37:03
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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I thought Ex Illis was done by home boys(Quebec)?
I think I'm largely done with KS at this point because I want to focus on stuff I can actually play with. These days, with all my friends replicating like bunnies, that means skirmish games, preferably with a sci-fi bent so they can re-use their 40K minis. Or stuff I'm willing to demo and own multiple factions of. Which again, means low model-count.
My pulse actually lowered when I read that they were going to start working on their game. If it's a free pdf to push model sales, I might take a look at it. But I'm not going through Confrontation 3.0 again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 17:28:21
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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Oh I see, that's why I didn't see it I guess.
RH haven't issued the Newsletter email yet. Ill wait till Tuesday then ill write to them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 09:02:34
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Ex-Illis was destined to fail because of the attitude they used and well, why bother with minis when you could just play the game on a tablet instead? Only reason to buy the minis was for a code in the box that you needed to enter into their program so you could use these units, because we were too fething dense to use dice and whatnot, noooooo, the only way to play the game was through a tablet or computer. Everything was done electronically, the only physical thing you did was move your models from grid to grid and tapped the screen a few times while the program did the rest.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 10:07:18
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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The Ex Illis priest models were pretty cool though. I bought a box of them and turned them into Imperial Priests.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 16:38:47
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 16:53:57
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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#hilarious!
Seriously - they're so cute with the Tumblr and Hashtags!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 16:54:33
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Don't ruin the moment, this one's put out just for me.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 18:53:50
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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That wolfenstien... awwwww fudge.
#iwouldlikeitsomuch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 19:30:21
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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#Who'sawesome? #I'mawesome! #Betyou'rereallyjelly!
That said, oh noes, she has skulls on her base!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 19:50:19
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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And by the look of it, her long since dead and rotted away enemies are on the large size!
#trademarkskullsIdareyou! #deadspacemarinesFTW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 20:37:57
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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Email appeared today.
Blade dancers look nice...
#morestuffiwouldlike #nevergoingtohappen #imsojelly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 21:17:28
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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BrookM wrote:But what if the rules are an utter trainwreck?
I mean, did you read that description they gave of their outline?
And then imagine it translated from French to English...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 21:18:38
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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timd wrote: BrookM wrote:But what if the rules are an utter trainwreck?
I mean, did you read that description they gave of their outline?
And then imagine it translated from French to English...
Getting Rackham flashbacks again.
# R
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 21:36:37
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Leaping Khawarij
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timd wrote: BrookM wrote:But what if the rules are an utter trainwreck?
I mean, did you read that description they gave of their outline?
And then imagine it translated from French to English...
By Google Translate
#ohnoididnot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 22:19:08
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Still less passive aggressive than a Frenchman translating it.
#Sassy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 22:42:54
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Speed Drybrushing
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God I want to buy all of these minis, I didn't get to see the KS till after it ended. I am still deeply sad about this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 23:24:08
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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BrookM wrote:We'll see what wins out: Common sense or the urge to finally move on because you can't keep an artiste tied down on one project forever.
Well, you can always spend time preparing for a KS, or building hype.
Overlapping KS certainly can be an efficient use of any company that has different people working on the project at different times, but it can also run into headaches when something unexpected in one project affects the other. Costs and risks *are* transferred to backers in a KS, so overlapping KS shouldn't exactly be singled out any differently than other costs and risks on a KS. And, of course, if a company doesn't finish a KS, the backers have nothing tangible that would help them make a more informed decision for the company's next KS. As a result, fewer backers pledge in the second KS, lowering its potential maximum funding. This hurts backers in the second KS by not reaching all the SGs the project could have reached.
We'll see what the market will bear. No one forces anyone to back a second KS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 06:18:08
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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Yay, news:
UPDATE #93 – Back to school...
In this Update, check out the latest news on :
• Shipping Production
• Waves
• Challenges and Hurdles
• Sculpting – What's Left To Do
• New Sculpts Images
• The Digital Artbook
• Paint Jobs
• Next KS Project
• The TGG Game
• Next Update
This Summer has not quite yet been vacation time for the Raging Heroes Team and a lot has happened since the last Update. Of course, our big push has been on everything related to dispatching Wave 1 and preparing Wave 2.
Some of you may now be wondering: “What?? Dispatching of Wave 1??? But I haven't received anything!!!!” If that's your case, remember that shipping not only depends on when the various TGG become available, but also on the Shipping Option that you selected. If you think you should have received your first minis but haven't, please check out the Shipping Options, and contact us via private message or the Live Chat if you need assistance.
Regarding Wave 2, there have been loads of 3D file preparation, 3D printing, and mould-making. So here's how things are shaping up...
Shipping
The very first shipment of the 2nd Wave started in late August with the metal Heroines of the 2nd Wave that were available at that time, so some of you have already received them. Their spin-cast resin versions will become available next week.
We will continue 2nd Wave shipments as we receive all the Troops from the foundry. This is scheduled to end in late October.
The 3rd Wave will follow, and we are doing everything we can to get it all shipped out before the end of the year.
Basically, whenever new minis become available, pledges that can be fully completed are sent out right away.
Production Waves
The plan for Wave 2 was for all Troops + metal Heroines.
The Troops are currently in production. The plan, as you may recall, was to try and begin shipping them by late summer, which is right about now, but the sheer volume of production and the occasional casting surprises mean that we are looking at a few more weeks than planned.
However, there are also unexpected good news:
The Snipers of all 3 armies are also in production and will most likely be available in time for Wave 2!
And the big news is that, contrary to what was originally planned, we will have a big bunch of spin-cast resin Heroines included in Wave 2!!!
If you remember, once we announced that we were able to make the Heroines also available in spin-cast resin instead of just metal, we told you that they would be produced only once everything else was completed. But since we had some issues on several other minis during the 3D printing phase, that left our resin foundry with extra capacity, so we wasted no time in asking for spin-cast resin Heroines.
Here's the list of metal Heroines that are already produced and in our offices, ready for Wave 2. (Their spin-cast resin counterparts will be joining them next week)
: • Aaqila Noyakin (KST)
• Arthemisia Rozenkrantz (IE)
• Doctor von X (IE)
• Drakkan (Lieutenant) (IE)
• Foxy Dynamite (JB)
• Heleria Drakkenfeld (IE)
• Karmina Noxx (KST)
• Katrina Zerga (KST)
• Krüger (Lieutenant) (IE)
• Lady Sigrith (IE)
• Severina Madsen (IE)
• Snow Ivanka (KST)
• #42 (IE)
This means that we have already started the first shipments of Wave 2 for people whose selection was complete with the minis in the above list. And we will continue to do so as new models come in.
Check out this page (screengrab below) for an updated view of
• what's in each Wave
• what's already In Stock and Ready to Ship.
Challenges and Hurdles...
You've probably been waiting for this Update to come earlier in the summer, and that's why we want to tell you a bit more about what goes on behind the scenes.
For example, you've probably guessed that setting up a Pledge Manager that would work with our complex KS reward selection system, complete with a proper back office to manage all the pledges was quite a daunting task. And we still had more administrative work once it closed...
Actually, we usually try to spare you the daily madness, problems and challenges we have to deal with every day. But you might not be completely surprised to know that even mundane, simple tasks can sometimes escalate into nightmares in the context of a Kickstarter...
Here's a couple of examples...
Smack in the middle of the Pledge Manager and the miniatures finalisation for Wave 2, we got a call from Paypal. They told us they were freezing the funds collected during the Pledge Manager to protect their liability. We had to negotiate for several days and provide loads of explanations, but still were only able to unlock half of the money. The rest will not be freed up until shipping is nearly over. As you can expect, this has a ripple effect on the rest of the production, and we had to find and implement solutions to work around this situation.
Another challenge is how shipping software are not set up to work with what we'll call, for lack of a better word, pre-orders. So they can't differentiate between available stock and not available stock. We've had to create a system of tags for that, and manually (manually!) split the reward selections of over 1,000 backers. And, while doing this, we uncovered bugs that the software maker did not know existed...
You can easily imagine that it's practically impossible to anticipate for such hurdles :( We manage those set-backs as they happen, but let's be honest, during that time, well, we're not fully focused on making minis either...
And then, there are all the other things of everyday life. Even if our in-house team did not slow down even a little bit during the summer, we have partners and freelancers who took vacations during the summer, two who got married (big CONGRATS! to our sculptors Andrea and Francesca), one who was forced to slow down on doctor's orders, and even one who had to travel to see his brother who'd been in a motorbike accident (he's OK though!)...
Sculpting – What's Left To Do
As you can imagine, since the last Update, we've been focusing on finishing the sculpts of the remaining Heroines. They are now all done, except for Kiki Bulldozer (which is actually 2 minis in one, because of the man hooked on her staff), and the new versions of Baba Yaga and the Yaga Arushka. They will be done in the next few days. Actually, Kiki and Arushka should have been part of this Update, but the sculpts still need some polishing.
Next week, we will also put the final touches to the Jailbirds Mecha, the KST and the Iron Empire Combat Trikes, which are all very close to completion. And then, as promised, we will finish with the sculpting with the Cyberzombie unit.
When we show you these sculpts, we also plan to show you the alternate versions of all the Artillery servants. They are all already sculpted, but there are so many files to prepare for rendering (so that we can show them to you) that we put it aside so as not to hold back the publication of today's Update. All in all, the creative work is virtually over!
New Sculpts Images
Jaheda Kano (KST) and Ash (JB) were originally envisioned as very basic tank operators, but we added details to make them stand out more.
Kristina Karlstein (IE) is one of our favourite in this batch. We are very happy to have reworked her concept and her posing. She's now a striking officer with lots of attitude, and a very feminine Iron Empire type of glamour.
Here is Nertha (IE), the last of the Freedom Fighters. You can bet that the Freedom Fighters will have an important role to play in the upcoming TGG game.
W101 (IE) is undoubtedly the most frightening of all the TGG miniatures. Truly, you do want to steer clear of those Iron Empire
We really love Lucky Lucy (JB) and her cool charm. She's bound to have very cool rules in the upcoming TGG game.
If you are mentally sane, of all TGG medics, Nurse Karoline is probably the one you want to care of you.
We told you many times how Parker has been a pain from the start, and as we expected, she is one of the very last Heroine sculpt that we are working on. But we are truly happy now.
We were always a bit disappointed with how the Keela Krupps (IE) sculpt came out. We really liked her crazy steampunk-style apparatus, and we felt that her initial version did not have the strong charisma we were aiming for. So, we slightly reworked her pose and her proportions, and we are now quite happy with her commanding demeanor.
We know that this is one of the TGG many of you have been waiting for. Translating the 2D concept of General Wolfenstein (IE) into a 3D environment was a big challenge. We took her apart and rebuilt her from scratch several times. Can you believe that seven (seven!) sculptors worked on her throughout the year, with varying degrees of success, until we finally achieved this final version.
The Digital Artbook
Now that we will have all the sculpts done, we will finally have all the base elements we need to complete the Artbook. We have many things to put in this tome. Of course, there will be unpublished versions of preliminary sketches, alternate versions of sketches we didn't use. There will also be new drawings and illustrations, several of them depicting special events of the TGG background. You can also expect KST and Iron Empire propaganda materials, as well as scenes for the TGG's everyday life. And most likely, we'll throw in some fun factoids and behind-the-scene snippets from the TGG Kickstarter.
The question left to answer is: should we wait for more minis to be painted? This would allow us to include shots of the painted minis, but also, dioramas and more... What do you guys think?
The TGG Game
We've been hinting at our TGG game for quite some time now. A few months ago, we really put this project in motion, and started looking for a game designer who would be able to help us translate our many ideas into a game system. We wanted someone who would have very good knowledge of the game market, the constraints of production, etc, while at the same time who, as a game designer, was also willing and able to really think out of the box. We have now found this rare bird, and have been working with him throughout the summer, brainstorming and putting the basics in place.
This game is proving quite a challenge to develop, as we want it to be pretty special. It will be close to the TGG spirit, and is intended to have a very cinematic feel. The action will be far from restricted to an open battlefield, and you will be able to do many moves not usually found in regular wargames. We want it to be fast-paced, with no down time, so you'll never have to wait 3 turns approaching your enemy and then get stuck for 3 other turns resolving combat actions. The personality of each TGG will also play a big role in the game. You well know that some are stubborn, big-mouthed, unpredictable. Others are unflappable, focused, deadly effective. All this and more will show up in the game, and resolving combat will not just be about combat skills but also about bravado, attitude, or even talking yourself out of impossible situations. We are aiming for a wargame that will feel like your favourite action movie.
We'll share more on this with you as work progresses. If all goes well, we would like to include the game in the upcoming Dark Elves and Sisters Kickstarter.
Next TGG Update
Our next TGG Update will be out in just a few days. It is mostly written by Harry the baby Hippo, and will be about shipping, first TGG reviews, and who is the winner of the “How many bases for the TGG Kickstarter” contest...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 06:21:50
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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[MOD]
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ced1106 wrote:Well, you can always spend time preparing for a KS, or building hype.
Like last time?
#shotsfired
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 08:43:08
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Leaping Khawarij
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#Ohsnap!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 10:43:43
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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"we are looking at a few more weeks than planned"
You don't say !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 11:55:23
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Aquatic Kamua
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Haha all that anti-french rage, please moaaar ! I love how, our small country is so hype that everybody on the internet must trash talk about us
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When we see the huge amount of text wall they produce in theirs update, i' more afraid about the opposite: 100 pages of boring rule book ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/16 12:32:20
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
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Rayvon wrote:"we are looking at a few more weeks than planned"
You don't say !
Well, this time round, they do have the experience, so any extra time spent will hopefully draw on past experiences.
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