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Hmm..
Who is willing to bet that they'd make a 50 Euro Apocalypse book and that every army gets a supplement for their units and formations for another 30 or so?

That thing looks like a chaos lord and necron destroyer love child. Just sayin'...

While I highly doubt the 'release' for Apoc is going to include so many models, the information on Nafka doesn't use the term model, so they could be saying that each army gets a new unit rules-wise. This would be later followed by model releases, or maybe not. Just a thought.

On a side note...because I feel the need to throw my wishlisting out for the world to see...if Eldar gets a Scorpion/Cobra combo kit...I will need to find a way to ride my bike to work as my car will be sold to buy Eldar goodies

 kronk wrote:
On the GW site, the apocalypse book is still there, but not apocalypse reloaded. So, 3 of the 4 apocalypse books have been pulled, unless I'm forgetting one.

Both of the GW ones are still available in the UK.

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
While I highly doubt the 'release' for Apoc is going to include so many models, the information on Nafka doesn't use the term model, so they could be saying that each army gets a new unit rules-wise. This would be later followed by model releases, or maybe not. Just a thought

My thoughts exactly. I was thinking that, while some armies will surely be getting new big huge toys, others will do with just formations or flier squadrons, just like the old Apoc did.


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In that sense, the Ork Dakkajet/Bommer sqwadron is pretty much a given

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 kronk wrote:
On the GW site, the apocalypse book is still there, but not apocalypse reloaded. So, 3 of the 4 apocalypse books have been pulled, unless I'm forgetting one.

Both of the GW ones are still available in the UK.

They like you more than us.

OR, they dislike you more than us since they'll be obsolete in a month.

Ok - now I'm intrigued.

If every army is getting an apoc unit - what are Eldar getting?
We've got our shiny new knight, but that is most definitely 40k.

What other eldar super heavies (in the fluff) are there?

Not counting phantoms, revenants, cobras, scorpions and everything else already available from FW.

I'm still hoping for a bright stallion....

PredaKhaine wrote:
Ok - now I'm intrigued.

If every army is getting an apoc unit - what are Eldar getting?
We've got our shiny new knight, but that is most definitely 40k.

What other eldar super heavies (in the fluff) are there?

Not counting phantoms, revenants, cobras, scorpions and everything else already available from FW.

I'm still hoping for a bright stallion....

Two words- Aspect Knights.
An upgrade sprue kit that will let you turn your Wraithknight into an Aspectwraith, either a Wraithscropion, Wraithhawk, Wraithspider, Wraithdragon, Wraithbanshee, or Wraithdealer.

Each kit will also include Exarch bits for when you field a Wraithsquad of Aspectwraiths, and want a Wraithxarch.

The Wraithspear kit is sold separately, and contains a jetbike the size of a baneblade, bristling with Wraithguard gunners and turrets, plus the lance of longinuus, a deadly new powerspear.

Actually, I started this post as absurd, but I think that would actually be a really popular product.

 D6Damager wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

Tell me when was the last time a Khorne specific machine was released from GW?...

The Skull Cannon of Khorne for Daemons just a few months ago....

Because that counts as a Super Heavy for you?...

What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
While I highly doubt the 'release' for Apoc is going to include so many models, the information on Nafka doesn't use the term model, so they could be saying that each army gets a new unit rules-wise. This would be later followed by model releases, or maybe not. Just a thought

My thoughts exactly. I was thinking that, while some armies will surely be getting new big huge toys, others will do with just formations or flier squadrons, just like the old Apoc did.

...and for the Sister, nothing.

 AlexHolker wrote:

...and for the Sister, nothing.

They will get the Blood Cauldron. It's an open topped transport with a 30 model capacity (up to 3 individual squads.) Any allied Grey Knights in base contact with the Blood Cauldron may, as a melee attack, destroy the Blood Cauldron. Remove all transported models as casualties with no save of any kind allowed. All Grey Knights within 12" are blessed with their sacred blood and gain +1 Str and Tou for every 5 models removed this way.

-Shrike- wrote:
What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

I've already covered this once, let's see if he tries to dodge it again.

17 pages and still only two pictures? Really?

C'MON! There has to be more!

It's a GW marketing plot I tells ya!

shade1313 wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:
What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

I've already covered this once, let's see if he tries to dodge it again.

From GW? None. From FW Plenty. Chaos Reaver, Chaos Warhound, Brass Scorpion, and the Blood Slaughterer.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 D6Damager wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

Tell me when was the last time a Khorne specific machine was released from GW?...

The Skull Cannon of Khorne for Daemons just a few months ago....

Because that counts as a Super Heavy for you?...

To be fair, you at first said "machine", not "Super Heavy". It wasn't until multiple people called you on it that you made your "clarification".

 AlexHolker wrote:

...and for the Sister, nothing.

The Spice Must Flow.

I think the surprise would be if the Sisters actually got something, rather than the reverse. The release of a Sisters codex is a sure-fire way to plot the end of a 40K edition cycle, after all.

andrewm9 wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:
What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

I've already covered this once, let's see if he tries to dodge it again.

From GW? None. From FW Plenty. Chaos Reaver, Chaos Warhound, Brass Scorpion, and the Blood Slaughterer.

Of which, two are not cult specific, and two are Khorne. Which goes counter to his original statement that implied Khorned rarely gets anything, with GW favoring Nurgle and Slaanesh. Which is why he's not counting FW stuff. And his argument still fails.

If the groin cannon on that "knight" was longer and slimmer it would fit inside the Heldrakes exhaust pipe.

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
If the groin cannon on that "knight" was longer and slimmer it would fit inside the Heldrakes exhaust pipe.

Thats a good point....

shade1313 wrote:

andrewm9 wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:
What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

I've already covered this once, let's see if he tries to dodge it again.

From GW? None. From FW Plenty. Chaos Reaver, Chaos Warhound, Brass Scorpion, and the Blood Slaughterer.

Of which, two are not cult specific, and two are Khorne. Which goes counter to his original statement that implied Khorned rarely gets anything, with GW favoring Nurgle and Slaanesh. Which is why he's not counting FW stuff. And his argument still fails.

Point of order: The Blood Slaughterer isn't a Super Heavy, it's just a standard Walker.

 Mad Boss Morgrot wrote:
Just reminds me of this boss from a smash TV. Hideous!.... Like most of the chaos stuff really....

haha yes.. "Big money, big prizes", had that as my phone msg tone for a while, until it started to turn people in my vicinity to despair

I was thinking about this 'miniature' (inverted commas for a reason), and that it looks like a children's toy. But really, I wonder how much of it is just down to my own perceptions changing. For every 'serious' looking model kit, of something like the Valkyrie, there is another that looks like it should fire plastic missiles and play sound effects. I mean really, take a long hard look at the Leman Russ



I think that years have made this model acceptable, when you look at it subjectively (and forget a child's memories of running over marines with it - yes I'm thinking about to 2nd edition!) it's actually pretty crappy when measured against both real-world and many other fantasy conceptions of what a tank should look like. I really think they should be able to do much better these days..

tl;dr, some of these new plastic kits are a bit more outrageous, more blingy, but they really aren't that different from what GW has done for most of its existence..

 Platuan4th wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

andrewm9 wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:
What super-heavies does Chaos have, Slayer le Boucher? List all of the ones that have models.

I've already covered this once, let's see if he tries to dodge it again.

From GW? None. From FW Plenty. Chaos Reaver, Chaos Warhound, Brass Scorpion, and the Blood Slaughterer.

Of which, two are not cult specific, and two are Khorne. Which goes counter to his original statement that implied Khorned rarely gets anything, with GW favoring Nurgle and Slaanesh. Which is why he's not counting FW stuff. And his argument still fails.

Point of order: The Blood Slaughterer isn't a Super Heavy, it's just a standard Walker.

Point taken. I don't pay enough attention to Khorne to know what is and isn't an Apoc unit. Even with my apathy to the cult, though, I notice enough to know that Slayer le Boucher's notion that Khorne is under loved by the studio in favor of Nurgle and Slaanesh is nonsense.

Add salt bla blabby bla blab:
"via an anonymous source (from the Faeit 212 inbox)Apocalypse
Only the Imperial Guard and Orks are not getting an a new Apocalypse vehicle, but they could be getting new apoc aircraft. It seems so that all armies will have 1 apoc vehicle and 1 aircraft.Forgeworld
We should be seeing a FW apoc book same month as GW apoc release covering all vehicles and aircraft from previous apoc books"

Hope its true!

edit: http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/apocalypse-info-bits-games-workshop-and.html

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Add salt bla blabby bla blab:
"via an anonymous source (from the Faeit 212 inbox)Apocalypse
Only the Imperial Guard and Orks are not getting an a new Apocalypse vehicle, but they could be getting new apoc aircraft. It seems so that all armies will have 1 apoc vehicle and 1 aircraft.Forgeworld
We should be seeing a FW apoc book same month as GW apoc release covering all vehicles and aircraft from previous apoc books"

Hope its true!

edit: http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/apocalypse-info-bits-games-workshop-and.html

This needs a lot of salt. GW releasing a super-heavy for every race except imps and orks (and Sisters )

I wouldn't be suprised at all to see no other releases other than the two apoc kits. It might be GW's month to 'catch up' with the unfilled demand for kits they haven't been able to make because they've been so busy with their insanely fast release schedule.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
While I highly doubt the 'release' for Apoc is going to include so many models, the information on Nafka doesn't use the term model, so they could be saying that each army gets a new unit rules-wise. This would be later followed by model releases, or maybe not. Just a thought

My thoughts exactly. I was thinking that, while some armies will surely be getting new big huge toys, others will do with just formations or flier squadrons, just like the old Apoc did.

...and for the Sister, nothing.

Probably just get access to IG stuff.

To be honest. I kinda like the Lord of Battles/ Deathdealer. Not because its a goodlooking minature or a great piece of wargaming art made plastic. Its just that I can't stop smiling when I see it. It's so ridiciulous it makes me happy. Maybe I get one just as an expensive antidepressant

 progreen10 wrote:
I couln't help myself...

A treadmill, a gun and an axe. May as well give him a giant fork and belch smoke. Make him like a cartoony live action villain ala power rangers or a giant godzilla villain. It's a very ridiculous model.

 Mad Boss Morgrot wrote:
Just reminds me of this boss from a smash TV. Hideous!.... Like most of the chaos stuff really....

It reminded me more of that boss in doom 3 that wielded the BFG and had a treadmill instead of legs.

I think the Khorneblower boils down to this.

Concepts don't always translate well into 3d form.
I can see the elements individually and imagine the pitch meeting and sketches. But translating that into 3d space....lost.its edge.