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Hi

I'm looking for inspiration in building a Kill Team list for a tournament in a few months time, please can you let me know what you think of the below and any other ideas, all Codex's are welcome.

Orks
Meganobz 3 man squad
Combi Skorcha
Combi Rocket Launcher x2
135

Gretchin
Runtherd
40

Total - 175


Chaos Space Marines
Plague Marines
Plasma Gun x2
Powersword
150

Spawn
Mark of Nurgle
36

Total - 196

Space Wolves
Grey Hunters Pack 10 man
Plasma Gun
Melta Gun
165

Lone Wolf
Powerweapon
35

Total - 200


Dark Angels
Tactical Marines
5 extra
Plasma Gun
Plamsma Cannon
Melta Bombs
Powersword
Vet Sergeant
200

Total - 200

Tau
Riptide
Ion Accelerator
185

Total - 185

Daemons

Beast of Nurgle x2
104

Hellflayer of Slaanesh
60

Total - 164


Dark Angels

Black Knights 3 man squad
126

Scout Squad
Camo Cloaks
Sniper Rifles
70

Total - 196





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A few more CSM builds

Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Bikes
2 extra
Melta Gun
Plasma Gun
Mark of Nurgle
Melta Bombs
Combi Flamer
Icon of Despair
190

Chaos Space Marines
Helbrute
Reaper Autocannon
Heavy Flamer
125

Cultists
Heavy Stubber
Autogunx9
Shotgun
66

Total 191

List with plagues is 201.
My CSM
x5 Termies
x2 Claw
x2 axe
x1 Maul
x2 combi-melta/plasma
RAC
Total 198.

That first DA list is the very same one I use and have had success with (but I used a plasma pistol rather than a power sword). I even had a batrep of it vs DE. I want to try the second one with black knights and snipers it looks good.

I assume you have to take a Troop Unit
For Orks:
Warboss (Cybork, Kombi-Skorcha, Big Choppa)
(3) Meganobs

or

Big Mek (Cybork, KFF, Burna)
Def Dread (2 Big Shootas)

The kill team rules are

0-1 Elite
0-2 Troops
0-1 Fast Attack (no flyers)


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I'm currently looking at the CSM bike squad as those guys will have toughness 6 which will make them very hard to take out.

The second Dark Angels version could be good as well.

Ooops - ok no HQ.

(5) Mega Nobs
or
(8) Warbikers
or
(4) Nobs (2 Kombi Skorcha)
Battlewagon (Defrolla)

An interesting space marines list might be

Simply 1tas

Or stern vets 7 men 5 combi weps which is approx 200 pts
or drop 2 vets and get a razorback.

Sleg wrote:Ooops - ok no HQ.

(5) Mega Nobs
or
(8) Warbikers
or
(4) Nobs (2 Kombi Skorcha)
Battlewagon (Defrolla)

A battlewagon could be really funny

Largeblastmarker wrote:An interesting space marines list might be

Simply 1tas

Or stern vets 7 men 5 combi weps which is approx 200 pts
or drop 2 vets and get a razorback.

Some really good thoughts here. The Assault squad could be very interesting I think the sternguard/Razorback combo could be very powerful though.

Dark Angels:
6* Ravenwing, 2* Plasma

Give the Sargent Fleshbane (precision shot fleshbane, what?), give one guy shred and a plasma blind.

Eldar could also do some bike fun:
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
3* Shining Spears, 75
Or
8* Shining Spears, 200
or
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
5* Shining Spears, 125

Dark Eldar:

Warriors x10. Blaster. Splinter cannon
Raider. Dark lance, night sheilds, splinter racks.

Go do some drive bys in a paper plane!

Or Space Marines:
Terminators x5. 5x TH/SS.

Just for the jokes.

Blaggard wrote:Dark Angels:
6* Ravenwing, 2* Plasma

Give the Sargent Fleshbane (precision shot fleshbane, what?), give one guy shred and a plasma blind.

Eldar could also do some bike fun:
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
3* Shining Spears, 75
Or
8* Shining Spears, 200
or
3* Windrider, Cannon, 61
5* Shining Spears, 125

Deathcult0 wrote:Dark Eldar:

Warriors x10. Blaster. Splinter cannon
Raider. Dark lance, night sheilds, splinter racks.

Go do some drive bys in a paper plane!

Or Space Marines:
Terminators x5. 5x TH/SS.

Just for the jokes.

Thanks both I like the idea of the Eldar and Dark Eldar lists, I never thought to use DE to be honest.

For the Eldar as I don't have the codex yet is the list able to take down a dreadnought?

I'm not too sure about KT rules, but would a henchman army be viable. I've looked at the grey nights codex for rules and the way that I interpreted their rules is that if you don't have an inquisitor in your army they count as an elites slot and if you do have an inquisitor then they don't take up any slots.

I could see it being very fun and fluffy and I would definitely make a kill team like that If it was legal, but I'm not sure. The rules are fuzzy.

A henchman list would go something like
Crusaders x3
DCA x4
Servitors x3 (plasma cannons) (another fuzzy rule set as they can go and mind lock themselves without an inquisitor, but you can't get an inquisitor (?))
Chimera

Tau:

Fire Warriors x7
Barracuda, disruption pod

Better hope you took skyfire as one of your free USRs.

SPACE MARINES

8 Stern guard - 200 even

4* plague drones-upgrade 1 to plague bringer, with greater reward= 193

Marshall Ragnar wrote:
SPACE MARINES

8 Stern guard - 200 even

what is a sternguard without his combiweapons?

 bobtheoverlord wrote:
I'm not too sure about KT rules, but would a henchman army be viable. I've looked at the grey nights codex for rules and the way that I interpreted their rules is that if you don't have an inquisitor in your army they count as an elites slot and if you do have an inquisitor then they don't take up any slots.

I could see it being very fun and fluffy and I would definitely make a kill team like that If it was legal, but I'm not sure. The rules are fuzzy.

A henchman list would go something like
Crusaders x3
DCA x4
Servitors x3 (plasma cannons) (another fuzzy rule set as they can go and mind lock themselves without an inquisitor, but you can't get an inquisitor (?))
Chimera

The unit still has to be a legal choice, and henchmen aren't a legal choice without an Inquisitor (1 squad per Inq). No HQ, no Inquisitor, no henchmen. :(

Which upsets me because I wanted to do the same thing. Crusaders and Assassins, but backed up by Warriors in my case...

BunnyCommando wrote:

 bobtheoverlord wrote:
I'm not too sure about KT rules, but would a henchman army be viable. I've looked at the grey nights codex for rules and the way that I interpreted their rules is that if you don't have an inquisitor in your army they count as an elites slot and if you do have an inquisitor then they don't take up any slots.

I could see it being very fun and fluffy and I would definitely make a kill team like that If it was legal, but I'm not sure. The rules are fuzzy.

A henchman list would go something like
Crusaders x3
DCA x4
Servitors x3 (plasma cannons) (another fuzzy rule set as they can go and mind lock themselves without an inquisitor, but you can't get an inquisitor (?))
Chimera

The unit still has to be a legal choice, and henchmen aren't a legal choice without an Inquisitor (1 squad per Inq). No HQ, no Inquisitor, no henchmen. :(

Which upsets me because I wanted to do the same thing. Crusaders and Assassins, but backed up by Warriors in my case...

Yeah it is a shame I looked into them as they could have been a good unit but sadly not legal.

I still haven't decided yet what to use but the Nurgle Spawn or bikers does seem the most fun from a modelling perspective.

BunnyCommando wrote:
henchmen aren't a legal choice without an Inquisitor (1 squad per Inq). No HQ, no Inquisitor, no henchmen. :(

I'm not quite sure this is true. P90 says, "For each Inquisitor in your army, you may also include a unit of 3-12 henchmen.... This unit does not use up a force organisation slot."
This caveat refers explicitly to "this unit," as in, the unit associated with the Inq, and says nothing about Warbands in general.
The GK FAQ says,
Q: "Taking Inquisitor Coteaz in your force turns Henchmen Warbands into troops choices. Does this mean they take up a force organisation slot and can no longer be taken as an elites choice?"
A: "Yes to both questions."
That FAQ question implies that a Warband CAN be taken as an Elite choice. So there are three options. 1) If there's an Inq, then a single Warband uses no slot. 2) If Coteaz, then up to six Warbands (in a single FOC) which take up Troop slots. 3) If no Inq of any kind, then Warbands take up Elite slots.

The rules state that you may take units listed in your book; this is my permission. Warbands are listed in your book under Elites, with the caveat that they take no slot if there's an Inq, or Troop slots if Coteaz; thus, they can be taken as Elites. The rules do not say that you cannot take a Warband w/o an Inq; there is no restriction on my permission.

EDIT: Go over to YMDC to vote in the poll regarding this issue!

For Necrons:
5 Wraiths /w 2 whipcoils, pretty straight forward

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

BunnyCommando wrote:
henchmen aren't a legal choice without an Inquisitor (1 squad per Inq). No HQ, no Inquisitor, no henchmen. :(

The rules state that you may take units listed in your book; this is my permission. Warbands are listed in your book under Elites, with the caveat that they take no slot if there's an Inq, or Troop slots if Coteaz; thus, they can be taken as Elites. The rules do not say that you cannot take a Warband w/o an Inq; there is no restriction on my permission.

EDIT: Go over to YMDC to vote in the poll regarding this issue!

Hmm, I never looked at it that way. I don't run any henchmen, (and even if I did, I never leave home without Coteaz so it wouldn't matter) my sole elite choice is a Vindicare Assassin, so it's never come up. I can certainly see where you're coming from though.

 Deraiderspam wrote:
For Necrons:
5 Wraiths /w 2 whipcoils, pretty straight forward

Never thought about Wraiths hmm

5 Lootas
5 War Bikers

 Peregrine wrote:
Tau:

Fire Warriors x7
Barracuda, disruption pod

Better hope you took skyfire as one of your free USRs.

Can't take a flyer in a killteam scenario

I played BA in a KT event with DC, Scouts, and Sternguard but didn't fair too well. My brother dominated the event running DA using an Attack Bike Squad and some heavy weapons. I honestly don't know what the DA codex is like and I couldn't tell you the exact list, I just know nobody had anything that could deal with 2 attack bikes. I think our rules were odd though...you had to have 1 complete squad troops choice up to at least the minimum in the codex then could take anything else as singles but using 1 model from any squad counted as using that force org spot. For instance you could use 1 model all the way up to the max allowed as 1 force org spot. Pretty sure his crew was 5man Marines with a MM and 2 attack bikes with MMs. I at least won best painted so made the event worthwhile..gotta post some pictures. My BA squad was as follows

4 Death Company with Bolters
3 Scouts - 2x Sniper 1x Missile Launcher all with Camo Cloaks
2 Sternguard - 1x Heavy Bolter 1x MultiMelta

My thinking was giving the Scout with ML Stealth, MM got Relentless, and HB got Fleshbane
At the event they ruled that Fleshbane was given to the unit not the weapon so my HB was completely useless

I'll play.
These are my KT lists.


*indicates leader
List 1 – Dark Angel’s
Scout Squad with Camo Cloaks
-Sergeant w/ Sniper Rifle - Fleshbane
-Scout w/ Sniper Rifle
-Scout w/ Sniper Rifle
-Scout w/ Bolter
-Scout w/ Bolter

Ravenwing Black Knights
-*Ravenwing Huntmaster - Shroud
-Ravenwing Black Knight - Stealth
-Ravenwing Black Knight

List 2 – Imperial Guard
Veteran Squad (Grenadiers)
-*Gunnery Sergeant Harker
-Vet. w/ Plasma Gun – Preferred Enemy (Everything!)
-Vet w/ Plasma Gun – Feel No Pain
-Vet. Weapons Team w/ Missile Launcher - Shroud
-Vet. X5

List 3 – Space Marines
Sternguard Veterans
-*Sergeant w/ Power Weapon
-Vet. w/ Multi-Melta – Relentless
-Vet. w/ Plasma Gun – Feel No Pain
-Vet. w/ Combi-Flamer
-Vet.
Space Marine Attack Bike – Shroud

List 4 – Space Wolves
Lone Wolf – Fleshbane
-w/ Mark of the Wulfen

*Thunderwolf Cavalry - Hatred

Grey Hunters
-GH w/ Power Weapon
-GH w/ Plasma Gun
-GH w/ Mark of Wulfen - Shred
-GH w/ Bolter
-GH w/ Bolter


List 5 – Dark Angels
Ravenwing Support Squadron
-Land Speeder w/ 2x Heavy Bolter – Fleshbane
-Land Speeder w/ Heavy Flamer & Multi-melta - Shrouded
-Land Speeder w/ Heavy Flamer & Multi-melta - Stealth

List 6 – Imperial Guard
Platoon Command Squad
-*Platoon Commander w/ Plasma Pistol – Preferred Enemy (Everything!)
-Guardsman w/ Flamer
-Guardsman w/ Flamer
-HWT w/ Autocannon – Shroud

Infantry Squad
-Sergeant
-Guardsman w/ Meltagun
-HWT w/ Autocannon – Stealth

Infantry Squad
-Sergeant
-Guardsman w/ Meltagun
-HWT w/ Autocannon

Ah! I got here too late to put in the Dark Eldar comment. The lower the points, the nastier they are. I mean, 200 points of fully decked out footslogging Angels would have no chance against a Raider full of Kabbies with a heavy weapon, racks, flickers, etc. Just fly in circles around them and you've got so much pain going their way.

I just got done with a game with my boy (we played a swap match and he was Dark Eldar, knowing zero about them other than they kill his marines) at 500pts. I played 500pts of Angels. He tabled me.

Hey folks,

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about what you'd do with an extra 50 points of Kill team possibilities (250, rather than 200) in my thread over here...

One of my kinda nasty ideas with 250 was to run a group of 5 scouts, heavy bolter (probably at least 1 sniper) along with a dreadnought (w/ Assault cannon & TL Autocannon....

IG

CCS: plasma gun x3, medic, carapace armor, body guard x2, krak grenades, camo cloaks.

7 guys, FnP, 3 plasma guns, auto look out sir, and 4+ arm our on guard.

 martin74 wrote:
CCS

Not legal. HQs are not available in kill team.

deathmagiks wrote:
Can't take a flyer in a killteam scenario

Yes you can.