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2013/06/18 16:29:23
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Hello All,
I have a question, and it would be, What is this symbol? I have seen it displayed across a few different chapters, most notably Luna Wolves, Sons of Horus and Imperial Fists. It is also embossed on Loken's bracer on the actual FW model.
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"You are like a son and together we have all but conquered the galaxy. Now the time has come for me to retire to Terra. My work as a soldier is done and now passes to you for I have great tasks to perform in my earthly sanctum. I name you Warmaster and from this day forth all of my armies and generals shall take orders from you as if the words came from mine own mouth. But words of caution I have for you for your brother Primarchs are strong of will, of thought and of action.
My Sons of Horus P&M. LUPERCAL! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/494329.page
Sons of Horus : 12000pts 
Pre-Heresy Ultramarines - 5000pts 
Vior'la Tau - 2000pts  |
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2013/06/18 16:31:06
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Looks like an eagle's head.
Maybe it's the sign of the Emperor?
EDIT: nope, the Aquila should be in use at that point.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2013/06/18 16:33:47
Subject: Re:What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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It is the emperor's lightning bolt iconography. IIRC correctly that is the symbol of the Thunder Warriors, so after they were gone I *think* that those who fought with the emperor in the crusades were emblazoned with them.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/18 16:34:17
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2013/06/18 16:34:41
Subject: Re:What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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 riverhawks32 wrote:It is the emperor's lightning bolt iconography. IIRC correctly that is the symbol of the Thunder Warriors, so after they were gone I *think* that those who fought with the emperor in the crusades were emblazoned with them.
You are right.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Thunder_Warrior
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2013/06/18 17:15:49
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Makes sense! Thanks guys!
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"You are like a son and together we have all but conquered the galaxy. Now the time has come for me to retire to Terra. My work as a soldier is done and now passes to you for I have great tasks to perform in my earthly sanctum. I name you Warmaster and from this day forth all of my armies and generals shall take orders from you as if the words came from mine own mouth. But words of caution I have for you for your brother Primarchs are strong of will, of thought and of action.
My Sons of Horus P&M. LUPERCAL! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/494329.page
Sons of Horus : 12000pts
Pre-Heresy Ultramarines - 5000pts
Vior'la Tau - 2000pts |
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2013/06/19 10:00:41
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Battleship Captain
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:Looks like an eagle's head.
Maybe it's the sign of the Emperor?
EDIT: nope, the Aquila should be in use at that point.
Weren't the Emperor's Children the only legion to ever bear the Imperial Eagle?
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2013/06/19 10:07:59
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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 Admiral Valerian wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Looks like an eagle's head.
Maybe it's the sign of the Emperor?
EDIT: nope, the Aquila should be in use at that point.
Weren't the Emperor's Children the only legion to ever bear the Imperial Eagle?
According to the wiki, everyone had it.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Aquila
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2013/06/19 10:09:45
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Battleship Captain
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That's strange; one of the Emperor's Children's greatest boasts was that they alone among the legions had the honor and privilege to wear the Emperor's emblem.
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2013/06/19 10:11:04
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Admiral Valerian wrote:
That's strange; one of the Emperor's Children's greatest boasts was that they alone among the legions had the honor and privilege to wear the Emperor's emblem.
I think they were the first to do so. Later on everyone had the emblem built into their armor.
Oh I see, everyone got the Aquila after the heresy. Before and during it was just the EC.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2013/06/19 10:18:11
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Battleship Captain
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Ah, that makes sense.
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2013/06/19 11:50:49
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Could the thunder warriors symbol be used to show that astarte was terran born?
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2013/06/20 20:39:09
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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The EC were the only space marines to be granted the right to wear it as a legion. Other space marines could earn it through merit. Iirc Garro bears the Aquila on his chest.
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2013/06/20 20:46:00
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Ugly Green Trog wrote:The EC were the only space marines to be granted the right to wear it as a legion. Other space marines could earn it through merit. Iirc Garro bears the Aquila on his chest.
Garro only bears it after his "ascension" to the rank of Knight Errant, which came from Malcador himself, and the Aquila that he has on his Errant armor is of a 2 headed eagle that has both eyes open, a slight difference from the Emperor's Aquila. Edit: Apparently the symbol was used as the Badge of the Emperor before the Aquila was adopted.
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2013/06/20 20:46:39
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Daston wrote:Could the thunder warriors symbol be used to show that astarte was terran born?
Loken wasn't a terran, so it's not a mark of a terran legionnaire. More likely, it's a badge of honor for fighting alongside the Emperor.
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2013/06/20 21:22:30
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Any Elgionaire could wear what was known as a palatine aquila, a simple marking that showed devotion, but the III Legion were the only ones permitted to wear The Aquila as seen on 40k models. I think it was either Fear to Tread it was mention or Betrayer, but I don't remember EC in Betrayer so I believe its the former.
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2013/06/21 10:07:31
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Its called the raptor imperialias, its mentioned in the FW HH book as an award, cant remember what for at moment though
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2013/06/21 20:45:22
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Been Around the Block
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 usedboltershell wrote:Its called the raptor imperialias, its mentioned in the FW HH book as an award, cant remember what for at moment though
If the first image is anything to go by, packing a seriously filled codpiece.
(Settles in to view "Do Space Marines have little bolters?" argument)
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2013/06/27 10:01:02
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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Food for a Giant Fenrisian Wolf
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*restrains mental image of a space marine's codpiece filling* ...while we're on symbols, I saw some lovely marines a while back bearing the symbol of a hammer with lightening bolts on each side, what's that about?
...And Fotherington-Thomas, just thought i''d let you know that someone got the reference. I had many happy days at St Custards.
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2013/06/28 17:29:17
Subject: What is this Pre-Heresy Symbol?
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The Emperors Original Symbol wasn't an Eagle.
It was a lightning Bolt, and is referenced in many HH books this way, the Mark of Calth Book references this in the "Athame" Book about the Blade through the ages. Also Olly Pious mentions things "About the Man".
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Aquila
"The Imperial Aquila, known in ancient times as the Palatine Aquila, is a two-headed eagle sigil which represents the entirety of the Imperium of Man and was chosen by the Emperor of Mankind at the start of the Great Crusade in circa 800.M30. The Aquila replaced the earlier symbol of a lightning bolt that had been used to represent the Imperial forces during the Unification Wars on Terra at the end of the Age of Strife in the late 30th Millennium. "
Raptor Imperialis: Battle Honor: Specific criteria is unknown ( FW HH Betrayal PG 72)
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