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I thought this response was interesting enough to share.

"Hi there,

I've been out of the 40k loop since 3rd edition, but playing the Deathwatch RPG has rekindled an old flame once thought lost; a righteous fire that demands those unworthy of the God-Emperor's divine blessings.

After scouring the web, I discovered the current codex exists within the confines of a couple White Dwarf issues, and was wondering if you have any plans to release it as a downloadable PDF. Also -- and I don't expect a straight answer here :s -- will I be able to pick up a physical copy of a proper codex in the near future, or should I resign myself to prayer and self-flagellation in order to better understand His will?

Thanks for your time,"

-----------------------------------------------------

"Thank you for writing into us. We have asked that the rules for the Sisters of Battle be put on the Games Workshop website but I don't know when or if they will be put on the website and for that I apologize. While the Sister's of Battle will no doubt get an update of their codex and miniatures at some point in the future, at this time we don’t know when this will be. However, please keep the faith that they haven’t been forgotten about and their time will come one day! Should you have any other questions please give us a call and we will work to get you helped out.

Sorry we couldn’t be any more help than this."

This was from the NA customer service. Speculating now: if it is true that they've asked head office to put it up, then I assume they did so after recieving enough questions on the matter to warrant a response.

What do you fine folk think?
   
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I'll believe it when I'm holding the new codex (& new minitures) in my hands.

We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.

D
   
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Devon, UK

 evildrcheese wrote:
I'll believe it when I'm holding the new codex (& new minitures) in my hands.

We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.

D


I thought Sisters players were more into self abuse than flagellation?


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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

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Whorelando, FL

The fact that that the higher ups don't post the WD codex or rerelease it is dumb to the Nth degree...To play the army they are essentially justifying piracy...

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Kansas

 evildrcheese wrote:


We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.



I'm scheduling time in the flagellation chamber now...

   
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New Orleans, LA

They're already doing the "digital content" thing. Why aren't they selling the SoB WD codex via that, at the very least? How much effort would it really take?

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Well the new line of little bits of stuff from old WD & Rulebooks starting to appear as eBooks under the Digital Editions banner from Black Library

http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions

makes me wonder if the (old) WD sisters codex might re-appear

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We know that GW has been obstinate in terms of republishing the Sisters WD codexes. Yes, we know this. Thanks for the update...

This is far from News or Rumors...
   
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Devon, UK

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
We know that GW has been obstinate in terms of republishing the Sisters WD codexes. Yes, we know this. Thanks for the update...

This is far from News or Rumors...


How about we just assume you post something like this in every single fething N+R thread, and you just don't bother?

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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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show me where, in the OP, there was any new information presented? We have known this since thw WD issues came out and not enough SOB players managed to gwt both issues.

   
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Hyderabad, India

Yeah, no real news so I'll shift this to 40k discussions.

Here's a really important bit of background though.

GW have painted themselves into a corner with SoB. Reportely GW is now completely out of the metal model business, they don't have metal, they don't even have casting machines.

Since the SoB are almost 100% metal GW's options are:
1-Sell down existing stock and let them go OOP
2-Move them to Finecast
3-Relauch with a mix of plastics and Finecast.

As far as I know there have been NO recent rumors of a new codex or models for SoB, and believe me people are looking.

So my guess is right now they're doing #1 so they certainly don't want to publicize the rules when the models may soon be out of stock.


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 azreal13 wrote:
 evildrcheese wrote:
I'll believe it when I'm holding the new codex (& new minitures) in my hands.

We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.

D


I thought Sisters players were more into self abuse than flagellation?



That is flagellation...

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Devon, UK

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
 evildrcheese wrote:
I'll believe it when I'm holding the new codex (& new minitures) in my hands.

We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.

D


I thought Sisters players were more into self abuse than flagellation?



That is flagellation...


We may have a translation failure here, "self abuse" is a euphemism for erm.. playing with oneself?

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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on the forum. Obviously

 azreal13 wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
 evildrcheese wrote:
I'll believe it when I'm holding the new codex (& new minitures) in my hands.

We'd best stick to prayer and self-flagellation in the mean time.

D


I thought Sisters players were more into self abuse than flagellation?



That is flagellation...


We may have a translation failure here, "self abuse" is a euphemism for erm.. playing with oneself?


Oh...is that what it means? I never heard that one before.

Well, flagellation is basically beating yourself

Though I don't think sisters have the "equipment" for that...

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 CaptKaruthors wrote:
To play the army they are essentially justifying piracy...

They're actually condoning it at this point. My GW manager was told by customer services to tell people wanting to play SoB to go look for a PDF on the internet, and I've seen other cases of people reporting that customer services told them the same thing.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Reportely GW is now completely out of the metal model business, they don't have metal, they don't even have casting machines.

IRRC, their models are casted upon demand.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

As far as I know there have been NO recent rumors of a new codex or models for SoB, and believe me people are looking.

There are still older rumours, though. Such as the GW team working on redesigning the models.

And for whatever little it's worth, I've seen a few people around the internet saying that various GW employees have said that all armies will be getting an update this edition.

Edit: misread your post, edited out irrelevant part.

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 Troike wrote:
Also, if they were planning to squat them, why continue giving them FAQs or a place in the 6e rulebook? If their plan were to get rid of them, they'd do it instead of using time and money to keep them going.


They still have models to sell, it'd be a terrible idea to let people know that those expensive metal man-with-wigs models are gonna be the next squat when they go OOP.

Not that I don't wish for a substantial update for the sisters, but they don't even fit into GW's current trend of 1 MC, 1 flyer, 1 box cut in half and sold at the same price model of update! Are they gonna sell the left half of a sister model seperate from the right half?

 
   
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Hyderabad, India

I don't think GW has actually decided to squat them, but other decisions (no more metal) and other priorities can have the same effect.

The fact that the Wall o' Dead Cadians and Khorne Mower were apprently higher priorities does not auger well for the Sisters.


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Baronyu wrote:

Not that I don't wish for a substantial update for the sisters, but they don't even fit into GW's current trend of 1 MC, 1 flyer, 1 box cut in half and sold at the same price model of update! Are they gonna sell the left half of a sister model seperate from the right half?


Don't give them ideas

I remember back in the 90s when they cut the Epic boxes in half, so that each box gave you half of a legal unit.

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New Orleans, LA

The Khorne Mower is among the ugliest models I've seen, and it hasn't even been released yet.

Some things from rogue trader that were never made in 28mm scale should have stayed that way...

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I don't think GW has actually decided to squat them, but other decisions (no more metal) and other priorities can have the same effect.

The fact that the Wall o' Dead Cadians and Khorne Mower were apprently higher priorities does not auger well for the Sisters.

My theory is that we haven't seen new Sisters models yet because they're either still trying to redesign them, or are keeping them under wraps so as to do a big model/codex update in order to blitzkrieg people's wallets.

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on the forum. Obviously

What's a Khorne Mower?

Is it related to the Slaanesh Thresher? I thought the Slaanesh Thresher harvested Khorne?

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Working in the industry that I do, I work an awful lot with customer service and product support call centers, and I like to think I'm fairly familiar with the lingo and language used in such environments.

That said, what the CS agent told the OP is basically "we have no idea what is going on with this product line. We'd like there to be an update so people would stop calling us, and it's obvious that people like this product, so there should be an update, because that makes good business sense from where I sit, but we actually don't know if there ever will be or not."

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The Beach

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What's a Khorne Mower?

Is it related to the Slaanesh Thresher? I thought the Slaanesh Thresher harvested Khorne?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/602327_10201086787559218_1654835177_n_zps891ee19a.jpg

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What's a Khorne Mower?

Is it related to the Slaanesh Thresher? I thought the Slaanesh Thresher harvested Khorne?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/602327_10201086787559218_1654835177_n_zps891ee19a.jpg


That's metal...in the bad way. Like, 90s poser metal.

It's the face and the axe that ruins it really. They should have just given it a chainsaw and head that looks like its something from Brutal Legend.

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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

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 Psienesis wrote:
Working in the industry that I do, I work an awful lot with customer service and product support call centers, and I like to think I'm fairly familiar with the lingo and language used in such environments.

That said, what the CS agent told the OP is basically "we have no idea what is going on with this product line. We'd like there to be an update so people would stop calling us, and it's obvious that people like this product, so there should be an update, because that makes good business sense from where I sit, but we actually don't know if there ever will be or not."

One would also assume that GW is in turn aware of the demand.

Assuming that customer services has informed them, anyway. IIRC, in one correspondance I read, customer service asked GW about releasing a PDF of the SoB codex.

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 kronk wrote:
They're already doing the "digital content" thing. Why aren't they selling the SoB WD codex via that, at the very least? How much effort would it really take?


two, maybe three days of work for me (an IT person) if they really wanted to get classy and reformat all the pages to look nicer as a printable PDF

with GW markup: maybe half a million dollars

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The Beach

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What's a Khorne Mower?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/602327_10201086787559218_1654835177_n_zps891ee19a.jpg

To be honest, not having the PDF for sale by now makes little sense. The only reason I can think of is that it's so low of a priority that they don't want to divert the creative assets to do a formal layout for it, instead of just releasing the White Dwarf page layouts which would look "cheap". But that seems fairly unlikely. It's not that complicated of a project.

Another reason that "sorta" makes sense would be the new codex on the horizon and not want to sell a product that will be swiftly outdated, but that's unlikely.
Baronyu wrote:
 Troike wrote:
Also, if they were planning to squat them, why continue giving them FAQs or a place in the 6e rulebook? If their plan were to get rid of them, they'd do it instead of using time and money to keep them going.

They still have models to sell, it'd be a terrible idea to let people know that those expensive metal man-with-wigs models are gonna be the next squat when they go OOP.

Half right. But they also don't want to invalidate the existing armies by allowing them to become completely unplayable. They learned that customer service fiasco when they Squatted the Squats. They didn't stop hearing about that for ten years. So long that somebody at GW had a temper tantrum about being asked so many times that there was the brief rumor they had been eaten by Tyranids.

The last thing you want to do is upset a bunch of women. You'll never hear the end of it.


Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The last thing you want to do is upset a bunch of women. You'll never hear the end of it.

Sexism! As a man, I would rage as hard and as unendingly as any woman were my army to be removed!

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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
What's a Khorne Mower?

Is it related to the Slaanesh Thresher? I thought the Slaanesh Thresher harvested Khorne?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/steders/602327_10201086787559218_1654835177_n_zps891ee19a.jpg


My God-Emprah, it's FUGLY. I hope someone did a good job with the Necron Apocalypse unit because that one, urgh

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 TheDraconicLord wrote:

My God-Emprah, it's FUGLY. I hope someone did a good job with the Necron Apocalypse unit because that one, urgh

IIRC, you've got some cool giant monolith things coming.

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 Troike wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:

My God-Emprah, it's FUGLY. I hope someone did a good job with the Necron Apocalypse unit because that one, urgh

IIRC, you've got some cool giant monolith things coming.

I still want my medusa V tombstalker.

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