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 Jihadin wrote:
Theyroid issue mainly what I'm hearing a lot of. Also again its the mental fortification and motivation to get up and work some LBS off those that are capable of doing it. Then that's another ball to bounce. Either they start to hard, longer duration then need to be, or both. My first advice. Drink water for two weeks to hydrate and convince the body you are taking in enough water to release the "water fat". Start a mile for cardio either Mon, Wens, Fri or Tues, Thurs. or vice versa. Go a mile for a week then start adding a telephone pole distance. For endurance stick with push ups and crunches. Go thirty push ups by regular stance then go to your knees to finish. 3 sets. Then 3 sets of crunches of 40 a piece.

this is a great post. to many people today are to obsessed with instant results and when they don't get them they quit. also to many people push themselves WAY to far right away.

good call Jihadin

Mental Disorder/weak mindset/pure gluttiony and sloth

Look at any obese person, their life is almost never together.

As already stated there is no single issue that causes it, but there tends to be a single issue that keeps it in place: shame. Just look at this thread; even with all the points about what it could be almost half or more are 'they are just lazy and need to get up and exercise'. Obese people can't tend to do the range of motion that others do so many normal exercises are right out, and the ones that are good for you (swimming NOT running, imagine the impact on knees) requires one to go into the public sphere. There is an odd dichotomy that people criticize the obese for not exercising, but then also tend to give them dirty or disgusted looks if they go out and try to do it; damned if they do and damned if they don't. Pretending shame and guilt are things people can just ignore shows a fundamental understanding of the way social forces shape our lives. Depression is a big cause of obesity, and obesity just feeds into the depression making a vicious spiral.

That being said I also so a trend toward trying to pretend being obese is ok, and not really a health problem, but it is. I remember reading an article in which a woman related about how awesome and strong her dad was but that he was obsessed with losing wieght so eventually went on a radical diet and a research facility where he was given 30 calories a day or something stupid like that, and while he lost weight it destroyed his organs and heart, eventually leading to a cardiac event which killed him. The lesson she took from this and wanted to share was not to worry about controlling your diet and weight and just love your fat. That, obliviously, seemed to have missed that doing a radical experimental diet may have been the problem, and that healthy weight loss is not the same thing.

It is a tricky balance of not persecuting people while encouraging them to make healthier changes and improve their lives while also not doing so either to softly where it seems like their wieght is ok, or pushing so hard that they withdraw becuase no one wants to be around a bunch of asses.

Unless it is OT, then we embrace that sort of thing. Flying buts and all.

As the owner and head instructor of a martial art school for over 16 years I have dealt with many people that were out of shape. Many, many people would come in, be interested but refuse to sign up, saying they had "to get in shape first." Of course this is a terrible road block to them and we would encourage them in every way to come in, but if I couldnt get them to start then I never saw them again.

My advice to everyone that wants to get in better shape, if you are quite a bit over weight and are self concious is to go WALKING!

I can not emphasize this enough, my grandmaster who is 10th degree, 80ish years old and the head of hundreds of schools told me in his last visit that he gets up every morning and walks.

Walking is superior to running for the vast majority of people since the vast majority are not athletes. Compared to running it is much less destructive on your connective tissue and easier on the back.

I just cringe when I see a seriously overweight person running because I am worried they will turn their ankle or injure a knee. Other people have already mentioned nutrition so I wont rehash that.

Just walk fast enough to get your heart rate up, thats all you need to get started. Your shoes will last longer too!

Oakly Desert Combat boots are good to

nomotog wrote:
I think it's a weight class.

This. The title is a very narrow way of viewing obesity that tells us much about anyone genuinely willing to lump all cases into either category. You might as well ask "is a baseball bat a weapon, or a blunt instrument?"

I'm clinically obese...though I don't have any real trouble running or sprinting over short distances so I'm kind of on the edge of the definition. I choose to be this way because I really enjoy food and am not (yet) fussed about the health improvements I give up in turn.

I'm not diseased, nor do I have a mental disorder...I have a lifestyle choice.

 Jihadin wrote:
6 month is average for running shoe change out. If you keep running in boots your looking at flat footed and bunuins...heel spurs.....and jam up toes...its going to suck eventually.

I will take that into account.


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 Auxellion wrote:
Mental Disorder/weak mindset/pure gluttiony and sloth

Look at any obese person, their life is almost never together.

Huh? Im 295, That is obese in many cases, I have a great life, Only problem is i have never had a girlfriend, and weight was never an issue there, my time was and my shyness.

Eh, in most adult cases it's a combined lack of motivation/self-control, exacerbated by a culture of instant gratification.

In kids, it's a lack of competent parents.

 Super Ready wrote:

nomotog wrote:
I think it's a weight class.

This. The title is a very narrow way of viewing obesity that tells us much about anyone genuinely willing to lump all cases into either category. You might as well ask "is a baseball bat a weapon, or a blunt instrument?"

I'm clinically obese...though I don't have any real trouble running or sprinting over short distances so I'm kind of on the edge of the definition. I choose to be this way because I really enjoy food and am not (yet) fussed about the health improvements I give up in turn.

I'm not diseased, nor do I have a mental disorder...I have a lifestyle choice.

The American Medical Association has categorized obesity as a disease. I would say you have a lifestyle that has caused a disease. You are also at an increased risk for heart disease and diabetes.

All of you that are young and obese, I can tell you that as you age your metabolism will slow down, you will get less exercise and you will get heavier.

 Auxellion wrote:
Mental Disorder/weak mindset/pure gluttiony and sloth

Look at any obese person, their life is almost never together.

How do you paint miniatures when all your brushes are so broad?

Neither, it simply means you need to stop eating so damn much.

Medicalising obesity is dangerous. The root of the problem is that people are lazy and consume vast quantities of poor quality foods (especially refined sugar) and they don't want to change that due to various combinations if ingorance, idleness and disinterest.

There are physiological and physcological risk factors but that is all they are, they can be overcome by lifestyle change. There will never be a magic pill that can 'cure' obestity, although it is the pharamaceutical industry's holy grail, that is anywhere near as effective as eating less crap and getting yourself down to the gym.

JWhex wrote:

My advice to everyone that wants to get in better shape, if you are quite a bit over weight and are self concious is to go WALKING!

This. Get yourself a proper pair of walking boots and get out and walk. I don't mean doc martins, but some Brashers, Zambilands, Altburgs, etc fitted by a proper walking shop and go walking. Walk everywhere you can. Proper boots will mean you can walk until you are tired rather than till your feet hurt.

There are medical reasons for weight problems, but they are in the minority. Most of them are caused by eating too much and not moving enough. Now, there are many social reasons for this, but it is up to people to change that. IMO it is just the same a smoking most of the time. It's hard but you can do it with a little support and willpower.

However, there can be some powerful disincentives to loosing weight.

First is the way people laugh at the overweight doing exercise. Hardcore gym goers that make even normal people feel bad just with the weights they do and the huffing and stairing when you slow down there circuit. The people swimming lanes who complain about being slowed down.

Second the fat acceptance people "ye. I'm big and proud" and "It's discrimination to treat me diffrently!" Lot. No, your overweight, probably by choice. We should not laugh and treat people badly as some do, but saying it is normal or a good thing is dangerous.

Third, people doing the wrong exercise. Trying to do too much and things they don't enjoy then wonder why they can't keep it up.

Finally time is a big factor IMO. We work longer hours, commute further and live further from friends and family than ever before and wonder why we don't have time to do anything. Unfortunately this is something socioty needs to address, not inderviduals.

 Sigvatr wrote:
What we can, however, agree on is that whether it's a disorder or a disease, it's a huge issue that has to be looked into. People forget how to cook with all that super cheap, super easy ready-made food around. Even some of my friends could not even cook a proper stew without a recipe...and it's a lot worse if you look at what childeren nowadays know about cooking. It's really bad.

I know a lot of fantastic cooks. But it's all dinner party stuff, great cuts of meat and fresh ingredients, elaborately prepared.

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time. Day to day, when both partners work, it just isn't practical to come home and start preparing a beef stew. Instead its either a fast recipe, which will likely need a good cut of meat and fresh ingredients (and is therefore expensive) or its junk food. When you haven't got a lot of money, the latter wins out most of the time.

 sebster wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
What we can, however, agree on is that whether it's a disorder or a disease, it's a huge issue that has to be looked into. People forget how to cook with all that super cheap, super easy ready-made food around. Even some of my friends could not even cook a proper stew without a recipe...and it's a lot worse if you look at what childeren nowadays know about cooking. It's really bad.

I know a lot of fantastic cooks. But it's all dinner party stuff, great cuts of meat and fresh ingredients, elaborately prepared.

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time. Day to day, when both partners work, it just isn't practical to come home and start preparing a beef stew. Instead its either a fast recipe, which will likely need a good cut of meat and fresh ingredients (and is therefore expensive) or its junk food. When you haven't got a lot of money, the latter wins out most of the time.

For some people though (such as myself) most (read: 99%) of those healthy foods taste like utter garbage, I've never been able to swallow a stew, they taste awful and you have to aim for tender meat which for me is the worst cut of meat (unless used for mince).

My mom makes awesome stew.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
6 month is average for running shoe change out. If you keep running in boots your looking at flat footed and bunuins...heel spurs.....and jam up toes...its going to suck eventually.

I will take that into account.


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 Auxellion wrote:
Mental Disorder/weak mindset/pure gluttiony and sloth

Look at any obese person, their life is almost never together.

Huh? Im 295, That is obese in many cases, I have a great life, Only problem is i have never had a girlfriend, and weight was never an issue there, my time was and my shyness.

Almost 300? At 6 Foot plus? That might be the primary reason to the GF thing honestly. You never fail to surprise me hotsauceman. PM me for anything fitness related.

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 Krellnus wrote:

 sebster wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
What we can, however, agree on is that whether it's a disorder or a disease, it's a huge issue that has to be looked into. People forget how to cook with all that super cheap, super easy ready-made food around. Even some of my friends could not even cook a proper stew without a recipe...and it's a lot worse if you look at what childeren nowadays know about cooking. It's really bad.

I know a lot of fantastic cooks. But it's all dinner party stuff, great cuts of meat and fresh ingredients, elaborately prepared.

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time. Day to day, when both partners work, it just isn't practical to come home and start preparing a beef stew. Instead its either a fast recipe, which will likely need a good cut of meat and fresh ingredients (and is therefore expensive) or its junk food. When you haven't got a lot of money, the latter wins out most of the time.

For some people though (such as myself) most (read: 99%) of those healthy foods taste like utter garbage, I've never been able to swallow a stew, they taste awful and you have to aim for tender meat which for me is the worst cut of meat (unless used for mince).

I work around 60 hours a week, but can still cycle and lift 4-5 times a week. Healthy foods taste like utter garbage? This morning I had an onion, 6 eggs, a green pepper, some franks red hot and some black coffee. Some coconut water when I go to work, I have some almonds at work, and go home and have a few chicken breasts, some string beans, a potato, and another onion. It'll be delicious.

 Krellnus wrote:

 sebster wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
What we can, however, agree on is that whether it's a disorder or a disease, it's a huge issue that has to be looked into. People forget how to cook with all that super cheap, super easy ready-made food around. Even some of my friends could not even cook a proper stew without a recipe...and it's a lot worse if you look at what childeren nowadays know about cooking. It's really bad.

I know a lot of fantastic cooks. But it's all dinner party stuff, great cuts of meat and fresh ingredients, elaborately prepared.

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time. Day to day, when both partners work, it just isn't practical to come home and start preparing a beef stew. Instead its either a fast recipe, which will likely need a good cut of meat and fresh ingredients (and is therefore expensive) or its junk food. When you haven't got a lot of money, the latter wins out most of the time.

For some people though (such as myself) most (read: 99%) of those healthy foods taste like utter garbage, I've never been able to swallow a stew, they taste awful and you have to aim for tender meat which for me is the worst cut of meat (unless used for mince).

Learn some healthy recipes that are actually good, then. I know that my mother could cook up some really good, healthy dishes (with her and my father being on weightwatchers, she pretty much had to) that my entire family could enjoy.

Although one issue is that people are heavily addicted to high amounts of sugar, salt, and fat in their foods. As silly as it sounds, you may have to wean yourself off of the junk food. Once you get off all of the salt/sugar/fat, the good food actually does tend to taste better, since you're getting the real flavour of what you're eating, and not just salt/sugar/fat.
Although it is kind of funny, a lot of the heavier junk foods tend to not sit well at all with me.

Personally, I can't cook, and that's starting to become a problem for me. Obesity is not an issue (6'3" and 150lbs), but it's getting to the point that I have trouble getting enough nutrients to actually get me through the day. Despite my culinary ineptitude, I've resolved to learn how to cook some easy, healthy meals, and looking online, there seem to be a lot of really good, affordable food out there.

Cause and effect are not synonyms.

Also, you only have two options, when there are a lot more possible causes for obesity.

JWhex had the right idea for how a truly overweight person should go about exercising. Walk. Same amount of distance, but less harmful to your body. I myself have problems running because of a back injury I took wrestling in high school, the strain can make jogging for extended periods unbearable.

Also, lifting weights, push-ups, crunches, all of that gak, that helps you build up muscle. It doesn't actually help you lose weight. There is no such thing as spot-fat removal.

 Steve steveson wrote:

JWhex wrote:

My advice to everyone that wants to get in better shape, if you are quite a bit over weight and are self concious is to go WALKING!

Second the fat acceptance people "ye. I'm big and proud" and "It's discrimination to treat me differently!" Lot. No, your overweight, probably by choice. We should not laugh and treat people badly as some do, but saying it is normal or a good thing is dangerous.

Finally time is a big factor IMO. We work longer hours, commute further and live further from friends and family than ever before and wonder why we don't have time to do anything. Unfortunately this is something society needs to address, not individuals.

This. This 100 times over

Steve steveson wrote:Second the fat acceptance people "ye. I'm big and proud" and "It's discrimination to treat me diffrently!" Lot. No, your overweight, probably by choice. We should not laugh and treat people badly as some do, but saying it is normal or a good thing is dangerous.

This isn't too far from the truth of it at times, with me too, but it's not always the case. I choose to be the size that I am because I don't want to change my lifestyle - and I'll be honest, I don't mind being the butt of jokes and will even throw some in myself. What gets my goat is people telling me that I should change because I'm being unhealthy, as if I don't already know.
Genuine discrimination would be wrong, but it's normally ok to jibe and poke fun at people like me who are aware they're obese and just don't care or don't mind. We're asking for it.

The ones I feel truly sorry for are those that are trying to lose weight, find they can't (because of things like thyroid disorders, PCOS and whatnot) and on top of not being able to change, they then get all the jokes and the looks of shame as well. People as a whole don't understand that not everyone who is obese can do something about it - it's not always as simple as "just eat less and exercise more".

JWhex wrote:The American Medical Association has categorized obesity as a disease. I would say you have a lifestyle that has caused a disease. You are also at an increased risk for heart disease and diabetes.
All of you that are young and obese, I can tell you that as you age your metabolism will slow down, you will get less exercise and you will get heavier.

Well, I'm not American. Though the rest of the point still stands, of course. I would say I have a lifestyle that causes *problems*, no doubt, but I don't call it a disease. And as mentioned before, I am aware of and accept the risks.
Again it's the tone of naysayers that I have a problem with. "You are obese, here are the problems which I will relay even though you're no doubt already aware, you need to change." Er, no. I've made my choice, if you don't like it, you can sod off. (Not you in particular, the general "you".)

 sebster wrote:

I know a lot of fantastic cooks. But it's all dinner party stuff, great cuts of meat and fresh ingredients, elaborately prepared.

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time. Day to day, when both partners work, it just isn't practical to come home and start preparing a beef stew. Instead its either a fast recipe, which will likely need a good cut of meat and fresh ingredients (and is therefore expensive) or its junk food. When you haven't got a lot of money, the latter wins out most of the time.

I don't agree with this. Its easy, quick and cheap to cook healthy food. The majority of my meals take 20 mins or less to cook and are always homemade. I tend to spend quite a lot on food these days but in the past I probably spent about £2 per meal. Grilled chicken or fish, pasta, rice, etc etc etc. I think that the real problem is one of perception.

For stews you can either make something like Irish stew which cooks quite quickly or make it the day before and let it cook slowly over the course of the evening.

For exercise walking is extremely good. The most effiecent way to 'burn' fat is to do moderate exercise over a long period of time (30+ minutes). by moderate I mean that you should be able to hold a (short) conversation but also feel like you are working. Its easy to progress as well (walking faster, walking uphill, carrying wieght etc).

I would also imagine that, by planning out a meal schedule, or at least having an idea of what food you want to have throughout a week, you can buy in more intelligent quantities that will save you money. If you don't know what you're buying or how much you want, you'll probably find yourself throwing out a lot of good food (and thus, money) more often than you'd like to.

 sebster wrote:

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time.

It's not just time, but cost. Whilst the meat is cheap fuel (electricity and gas) is more expensive than it has ever been. I cook lamb shank, beef skirt and beef shin on a regular basis. Cheap cuts but the cost of having the oven on all day quickly eats in to that. I do it because I love the food. I do it most saterdays and Sundays, but it costs. Meat is also so cheap now people can by steak every day... And eat far too much of it.


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 Krellnus wrote:

For some people though (such as myself) most (read: 99%) of those healthy foods taste like utter garbage, I've never been able to swallow a stew, they taste awful and you have to aim for tender meat which for me is the worst cut of meat (unless used for mince).

Nonsense. Utter utter tripe. I have never had anyone say they don't like stew. You have either been eating crap or you are very unusual. I hate some cuts but I can't believe anyone who has had a half decent stew can say it all tastes like garbage, unless they have only ever eaten processed rubbish.


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 Super Ready wrote:

Genuine discrimination would be wrong, but it's normally ok to jibe and poke fun at people like me who are aware they're obese and just don't care or don't mind. We're asking for it.

I disagree. Never poke fun at people for there size (well... Friends you can, as being rude to friends is normal). What I'm saying is don't poke fun at people, but also being overweight is not something that needs "empowering". It is not normal. I'm overweight a little myself. I'm trying to change that (I have found out it is a little health related, but I'm not using that as an excuse). If someone has an illness like thyroid problems they should not feel ashamed, or be bullied (no one should) but thyroid problems do not make people the size of most people who claim it is the reason, as long as they eat properly, take medication and do exercise.

I used to work with someone who was huge.. Like 30stone. He always had a health reason for not doing exercise. Always and excuse. His doctor told him he needed to loose weight urgently. He wouldn't even walk the 200m to the bus stop for the park and ride. He would get a taxi every day for £10 to get to his car rather than walk. He was put on a diat. He always had a draw full of chocolat amd crisps. he keeped it because he said it was for other people. That is the extream attitude that can cause problems. Basic stuff like that, walking to your bus, not having junk food on hand etc makes the diffrence. However all of these actions are the signs of an addict. Always an excuse. Always hiding. Just the same as when I tried to quit smoking "well, I'll cut down first" "it's been a stressful day. I'll just have the one". Keep the rest for next time I'm stressed "I can't throw half a pack! What a waste! I'll quit tomorrow" which becomes "I have to finish the plate. Can't waste food" or "I have to keep the, here just incase I'm hungry"

 Steve steveson wrote:
I have never had anyone say they don't like stew.

I hated stew for *years*. Turned out my parents just couldn't cook a decent one - very watery and full of veg that had all the flavour boiled out. I tried someone else's "proper" stew at a restaurant not too long ago and lo and behold, it was fantastic.

So often the problem... Watery, or using the wrong cut. I have had far to many lamb stews full of fat just floating on the top.

The easiest stew for someone who can't/has never cooked is:

300g beef skirt
300g potato
300g swede (also called rudabaker or yellow turnip)
One onion

Chop the lot in to small cubes, soften the onion, brown the beef, chuck in the rest, cover with hot water and lots of pepper. Cook in the oven for 3-4 hours. Salt to taste. Easy, nothing to go wrong and is basicly Cornish pasty filling.

 Steve steveson wrote:

 sebster wrote:

What has been lost is the ability to cook cheap, healthy food. Stews and the like, that slow cook the meat to make it tender, well they just don't get made like they used to be.

But it isn't just skill that's missing, but time.

It's not just time, but cost. Whilst the meat is cheap fuel (electricity and gas) is more expensive than it has ever been. I cook lamb shank, beef skirt and beef shin on a regular basis. Cheap cuts but the cost of having the oven on all day quickly eats in to that. I do it because I love the food. I do it most saterdays and Sundays, but it costs. Meat is also so cheap now people can by steak every day... And eat far too much of it.

Food is expensive, but cooking yourself is, most of the time, cheaper or as cheap as buying a ready-made meal. The main problem is that a lot of people think too short-sighted. They see one ready-made meal for 3€. It's got a nice picture of noodles, peppers and onions in a tomato sauce on it. Said person then looks at the vegetable boxes and sees that 3 peppers cost 1,85€, noodles cost 1,50€, canned tomatoes are 0,70€ and onions are 1,30€. The very same meal looks a lot more expensive at first sight so people might just buy the ready-made thingy. What they neglect is that you get enough ingredients for quite a few meals.

For one meal, you'd need the canned tomatoes (0,70€), 1-2 onions (~0,30€), 100g noodles (~0,30€) and 1-2 peppers (~1,20€). That's 2,50€ and you got a much more healthier meal, you got more good stuff in it (iirc, there's about 1/4 of a pepper in an average ready-made meal with peppers) and it tastes a lot better. On top of that, it's very easy to cook yourself.

The expensive part is meat - I eat a steak or sth. similar every evening and it truly becomes expensive quickly but alas, it depends on what you pay for. I have a high income and can afford doing so, but if you're less wealthy, you can buy cheap meat as well (or rather "relatively cheap"). On the other hand, eating meat every day isn't necessary either. The most important thing is to cut down on carbos. Carbos are very unhealthy if not taken in reasonable quantities and are very expensive as well - they can mostly be found in anything you really shouldn't eat aka sweets, cakes, pies etc.

My best advice: take a cooking class. They are really awesome. I took one when I was in my early 20s and it paid off so much.

 poppa G wrote:
Although there's cases of both i think it's more of a disorder.

1. how about a weakness? This is influenced by culture, and physical ailments.
2. there are also physical cases caused by genetics.

Not everything is a goddamn disease or mental disorder. Jeez

Auxellion wrote:I work around 60 hours a week, but can still cycle and lift 4-5 times a week. Healthy foods taste like utter garbage? This morning I had an onion, 6 eggs, a green pepper, some franks red hot and some black coffee. Some coconut water when I go to work, I have some almonds at work, and go home and have a few chicken breasts, some string beans, a potato, and another onion. It'll be delicious.

Although I personally am not too fond of eggs, I always take the opportunity to broaden my pallet when I have a reasonable opportunity to do so and my university just finished, so I guess I might have to duck up to the shops, at some point next week. I absolutely love cocnut water/juice but short of Chinese restaurants, I just can't find the bloody stuff, any Aussies able to clue me in?

Fafnir wrote:Learn some healthy recipes that are actually good, then. I know that my mother could cook up some really good, healthy dishes (with her and my father being on weightwatchers, she pretty much had to) that my entire family could enjoy.

Although one issue is that people are heavily addicted to high amounts of sugar, salt, and fat in their foods. As silly as it sounds, you may have to wean yourself off of the junk food. Once you get off all of the salt/sugar/fat, the good food actually does tend to taste better, since you're getting the real flavour of what you're eating, and not just salt/sugar/fat.
Although it is kind of funny, a lot of the heavier junk foods tend to not sit well at all with me.

Personally, I can't cook, and that's starting to become a problem for me. Obesity is not an issue (6'3" and 150lbs), but it's getting to the point that I have trouble getting enough nutrients to actually get me through the day. Despite my culinary ineptitude, I've resolved to learn how to cook some easy, healthy meals, and looking online, there seem to be a lot of really good, affordable food out there.

I actually think it might just be my rather messed up appetite (thank you caffeine), in fact, it most assuredly is not healthy how little I eat, my day tends to go a little something like this.
Wake up and have a coffee
Commute to uni
If cold, large cappuccino, if hot, 750mL DARE double espresso iced coffee
~2-4pm eat some lunch
~6pm eat some dinner
Maybe have some ice cream
Smatter another 2-3 coffees through the day and that's about it.

Steve steveson wrote:Nonsense. Utter utter tripe. I have never had anyone say they don't like stew. You have either been eating crap or you are very unusual. I hate some cuts but I can't believe anyone who has had a half decent stew can say it all tastes like garbage, unless they have only ever eaten processed rubbish.

I just dislike tender cuts of meat I otherwise have nothing against stews otherwise, I prefer soups tbh.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Depends. Most of the time, it's a mental disorder. There are rare cases of people actually duffering from a disease but overall, I'd say most cases of obesity can be cured by proper nutrition and, sorry, getting your rear end up.

Laziness NOT EQUAL mental disorder.


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 daedalus wrote:

 Auxellion wrote:
Mental Disorder/weak mindset/pure gluttiony and sloth

Look at any obese person, their life is almost never together.

How do you paint miniatures when all your brushes are so broad?

Epic post is epic.