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Mellow wrote:
I want to like Angelos, but ever since he shouted "we R the spehs mareens!" in DoW I kinda think he's a bit of an idiot.

Plus the hints that they are ex thousand sons just makes them too traitory!

That was Boreale, not Gabriel who shouted "we R the spehss mehreens".

Also, I think Gabriel, Hairgel, and Diomedes have more than atoned for the chapter's dark past.

Dante for me. In terms of being a visionary with notions of how to proceed in the galaxy, Calgar's currently winning what with respecting the Tau and having a prosperous empire carved out in an otherwise brutal regime. But I'd love to see what Dante could have pulled off in twice the time if there were no Flaw to worry about...

 Kain wrote:

 Eetion wrote:
Light Huron. He has the smarts to do what's right.

Well that's good for him. I'm sure he and his no name chapter are very proud of what they did.

But what about Lufgt Huron?


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 Deadshot wrote:
I change my answer. There is only 1 right answer.

And he is BAWLD AND FEWLISH! Tis Gabriel Angelos.

Gabe very much has a full head of hair.

It was meant to say Bold as appossed to bald. Why would anyone call their enemies bald to inspire their own troops? That would be hilarious.

Imagine it. WW2. Churchill giving his most famous speech.
"We shall fight them on the beaches. We shall fight them on the landing grouns. We shall fight the hairless cowards in the streets and in the fields..."

Dante without question. He is known to take an interest in anything that threatens the Imperium and he leads one of the most respected first founding Chapters. He's been there, done that and hacked it down with his axe. He's a legend so old that even other famously old marines (Lysander, Grimnar) can't remember a time when he didn't lead the Blood Angels.

The DA player in me wants to say Azrael, but GW says he's not allowed to have fluff. With that in mind I'd have to say Grimnar, with Calgar as a close second. Grimnar helps out the little guys, and Calgar seems like hes trying to make the Imperium a better place.

 DarthMarko wrote:
^ Not after Kyras trimed his hair ... Kidding, he has a BLOCK haircut ofc..


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 Eetion wrote:
Light Huron. He has the smarts to do what's right.

O the good old light....

Damn auto correct.
:(

Hellbrect, I mean ok Dante is great and all but got to give credit where it's due. He single handedly commanded the fleets at Armageddon while commencing boarding actions and such, and to top it off not a single person even thought about arguing not having him lead the fleet. Furthermore he commands the largest chapter therefore requiring more strategic knowledge and capability to keep it all flowing.

Tu,Shan is my favourite with Gabriel coming close behind

In terms of strategic capabilities, Dante in my personal opinion.

The UM fanboy in me wants to say Calgar, but I'll have to say Dante as the ultimate.

Calgar is obviously pretty high up there though. He seems like a leader who is pretty much altruistic, whole worlds cheering him everywhere he goes just when he's doing something routine like a personal inspection of a particular location because he really takes care of the realm of Ultramar.

Does Draigo count? Cause that dude lives in the warp just fighting daemons all day and pokes his head out now and then to fight some more in real space.

Draigo? nah.

Dante or Calgar? yes.

I think on balance Dante is better - he had overall command during one of the Armageddon campaigns for a reason, after all!

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
The UM fanboy in me wants to say Calgar, but I'll have to say Dante as the ultimate.

Calgar is obviously pretty high up there though. He seems like a leader who is pretty much altruistic, whole worlds cheering him everywhere he goes just when he's doing something routine like a personal inspection of a particular location because he really takes care of the realm of Ultramar.

And now his world is under threat from both Ka'Bandha and Hive Fleet Leviathan. Although given Ka'Bandha's track record, I say that the Sanguinor is going to kick his gonads back into the warp before he gets very far.

It would be funny to see this thread without Dante,Grimmy or even Calgar...I mean there are others who are also great ??? I' mean these thread always end up in pissing contest between Vamp and Wolf which is pretty boring....


Moloc is pretty badass

Dante is a flying terminator and a boss.

Except you are asking who is the overall greatest, not 'pretty cool' or 'kinda great.' Calgar rules a small empire and is well known for great heroics and fair treatment of both humans and xenos. Dante is the oldest surviving space marine and lead the imperiums forces during the second war of armageddon. Logan grimnar is borderline worshiped on thousands of worlds and is arguably the most respected commander in the imperium of man. They gave the guy command over the imperiums forces in the 13th black crusade for feths sake. Compared to those three the other chapter masters really don't even hold a candle.

Yeah, but still Logan, Dante and Calgar are well known to everybody and we had 10000 threads like this...It always comes down to *which do you like more*, so I would really like to know more about other "great dudes and their acts of heroism"....I mean just check Helbrecht (fe), the guy is awesome and he always gets neglected in these threads...

Really, if you wanna be objecftive Draigo is really the greatest - he trumps the laws of material/immaterial and torments papa Nurgle...He wins

In that case it should have been 'who is your favorite.' Who is the greatest is always going to end more or less the same way.

I'd say Calgar, he has armour made of pure plot, and he is the ultimate example of a pen being mightier than any sword his opponent can bring.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
I'd say Calgar, he has armour made of pure plot, and he is the ultimate example of a pen being mightier than any sword his opponent can bring.

How poetic

But he also kicks arses...O how I'm waiting for a clash between him and Moloc....

 DarthMarko wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
I'd say Calgar, he has armour made of pure plot, and he is the ultimate example of a pen being mightier than any sword his opponent can bring.

How poetic

But he also kicks arses...O how I'm waiting for a clash between him and Moloc....

Don't get me wrong, I love Calgar, and all jokes aside, he actually is my favourite Chapter Master.
I agree about that face off though, but Moloc is a Minotaur, and Calgar is basically an ancient Greco-Roman hero in space. We all know who's walking out of that labyrinth.

Discounting the former Tyrant of Badab as no longer a chapter master, it has to be Nisk Ran-Thawll

 DarthMarko wrote:
Grimnar (you know the guy who plays golf with GK heads is also brilliant tactican and sympathetic towards common grunts ) /thread

QFT

Draigo can't count while he kills deamons very well has he ever went up against something that isn't from the warp. And its hard to be a great commander when if you meet him you get brain wipe or just put to death after the battle.

There should be a model for Vladimir Pugh. I suspect yellow hate as the Fists tend to get left out of things in favour of their offshoots.

Has to be Calgar though. He is basically a mini Guilliman and runs a mini empire as well as his chapter.

Draigo can't really cut the mustard as he can't actually command his Chapter. Not to mention - I don't think he's the "current" Supreme Grand Master, not that he's been stripped of rank or anything, but it's not like the Chapter could've functioned this long if they'd sat around twiddling their thumbs waiting for him instead of picking a successor.

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MarsNZ wrote:

gilamonster wrote:
In your opinion

Calgar

Is it you, Matt?

Cute, I've actually liked ol' Marneus since 2nd. For the uninitiated this was before such devastating wit was directed at Ultramarines.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:

Moloc is a Minotaur, and Calgar is basically an ancient Greco-Roman hero in space. We all know who's walking out of that labyrinth.

Clever and pithy. I approve.

 Brother Sergeant Bob wrote:
Vladamir Pugh, anyone who wields 2 Thunder Hammers is aces in my book.

He is my favourite. I mean seriously dual wielding thunder hammers....

but overall I cast in my vote for the Top Dog Grimnar. Cus he reminds me of my uncle.

I'd like to meet this uncle

Carab Culn, Chapter Master of the Red Scorpions is a personal favorite of mine. His chapter is a bit reclusive, but he did win the Badab War basically, so he is a badass.

Vladamir Pugh and the Imperial Fists would be a close second.