[KS] Warmachine: Tactics - Funded! Retribution Unlocked!

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**motyak**

Whoever called Croe won something I guess

JAROK CROE UNLOCKED!

Update #24 · Jul 27, 2013 · 8 comments
Thanks to over 12,600 backers of WARMACHINE: Tactics, we have crushed another stretch goal, unlocking an new Mercenary character, the vile and contemptible assassin, Jarok Croe!

A master throat slitter, and armed with an enchanted pistol that can deny spell casters their ability, Croe honors nothing beyond the gold he's paid to end his target's life. Unlike most assassins, Croe prefers not to work alone and revels in the company of those who share his bloody trade.

Croe will work for Cryx, Khador and the Protectorate of Menoth and will be playable in multiplayer and single player AI skirmishing.

We have one more stretch goal to unlock in this leg of the Mercenary march! Once we hit it, we'll have unlocked a full compliment of warriors for the Mercenary faction, and will need only a warcaster and warjacks for the faction to be fully playable on its own! Who will our next mystery merc be?

Your pledges and support continue to elevate this Kickstarter to levels of success we had only dreamed of, and we are thankful beyond what mere words can describe. We cannot wait to experience this game with you.

With uncontainable gratitude,
Matt Wilson

**malfred**

Jarok Croe is a merc, lol.

In the fluff, he has this ability to let others die in his place. That's why
he likes working with his cutthroats. People think they're safe and suddenly
they're somewhere else with a crossbow bolt that was meant for Croe.

**cincydooley**

Kinda hoping for Shaw and deRossi next.

**Maddermax**

cincydooley wrote:
Kinda hoping for Shaw and deRossi next.

It's a possibility, especially as they've been getting a fair bit of coverage lately (a Novella, starring in the league fiction, and featuring in some IKRPG stuff), however there's only one spot left, and I don't think they'll do a pair for it. I'm betting it's someone who won't work for Khador however, as they're the only one who can get all the mercs listed so far.

**motyak**

Maddermax wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Kinda hoping for Shaw and deRossi next.

It's a possibility, especially as they've been getting a fair bit of coverage lately (a Novella, starring in the league fiction, and featuring in some IKRPG stuff), however there's only one spot left, and I don't think they'll do a pair for it. I'm betting it's someone who won't work for Khador however, as they're the only one who can get all the mercs listed so far.

So what, Anastasia or something? Maybe Rhupert? Place your bets people!

**oomiestompa**

They won't do Shaw. Or any of the jack marshalls. I bet that stuff will come in a later expansion or Tactics 2. Taryn is a possibility.

**Laughing Man**

Alexia seems a pretty good bet. Steelhead cavalry could be interesting (albeit unlikely), as would Brocker.

**oomiestompa**

I don't think cavalry happens at all in this go around. Also, Alexia seems really complicated. They would have to program three separate warriors to properly represent her. And all the things she does to her Risen (have them take damage for her, sac them for boosts, etc.) would probably put her out the running for launch. But I'm still hoping for her. She's a fan and studio favorite, so maybe they'll put in the extra leg work.

I say they stick with what they've shown so far. Simple and mostly combat-oriented. A Forge Guard. A generic Devil Dog. Midwinter. Versh. Hell, maybe an Ogrun Assault Corpsman.

**motyak**

Wooptie-fething-doo. A regular cut throat. What an amazing unlock. I'm so glad we got there. Without that, the game would be incomplete. Especially considering that we have nothing else like it in the game already...

**Laughing Man**

I suppose we should have seen that coming... Wonder if they'll go the game mechanics route to Croe (can take the place of a random Cuthroat) or the fluffy route to Croe (can't tell him apart from his Cutthroats).

**motyak**

Laughing Man wrote:
I suppose we should have seen that coming...

How? It's not like boomhowler was followed by a boomhowler...

**cincydooley**

What about Pendrake? Too Hordes-centric?

**oomiestompa**

It's an unexciting choice, but from a functionality standpoint, Croe needs a Cutthroat or two, and there is enough difference between the two to warrant two separate warrior choices.

motyak wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:
I suppose we should have seen that coming...

How? It's not like boomhowler was followed by a boomhowler...

No, but the unlocks right before those were a Steelhead and a Steelhead. And Croe likes having sidekicks around to takes bullets for him and whatnot.

cincydooley wrote:What about Pendrake? Too Hordes-centric?

And this point, yes. Pendrake gives bonuses against fighting warbeasts which there won't be any of besides a few token adversaries in the single player campaign. He'll almost definitely be in Hordes: Tactics at launch, though.

**motyak**

Less than 100k to go until we see another stretch goal, which will hopefully be good enough for me to spend more on! Any speculation?

**Schmapdi**

motyak wrote:
Less than 100k to go until we see another stretch goal, which will hopefully be good enough for me to spend more on! Any speculation?

I'm just hoping we don't go the 6-7 days it will take to reach that with 0 updates again. I'm starting to think the character upgrade packs they mentioned were all in my imagination. The doldrums would be a good time to start releasing them to drum up some excitement and cash.

**Mr.Church13**

Urrrgh! Boy I can't wait to pay Ebay prices for the promo models.

I love them but I have absolutely no use for anything else in that entire KS.

**AduroT**

Soooooooo.... Pay the $20 "fee" plus the $20 per fig you want and get them now? Probably be A Lot cheaper than the eBay prices later.

**Platuan4th**

AduroT wrote:
Soooooooo.... Pay the $20 "fee" plus the $20 per fig you want and get them now? Probably be A Lot cheaper than the eBay prices later.

Then gift your code for the game to someone else if you really don't want it.

**Elemental**

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Urrrgh! Boy I can't wait to pay Ebay prices for the promo models.

I love them but I have absolutely no use for anything else in that entire KS.

You can just wait a bit longer (not sure what the gap, if any is) for the non-limited models of those characters to be released through the normal channels.

**Platuan4th**

Paypal pledging up.

Also, cheaper shipping to Canada for the War Chest option.

**cincydooley**

Anything new to drive towards the next stretch ?

**Platuan4th**

Nope, but we're only $79k away.

Kicktraq says we're trending to get Ret as a playable faction, but not sure that'll happen. Last week they had it getting way past the replay camera stretch.

**motyak**

I'd be (pleasantly, of course) surprised if we reached ret. But who knows how much it'll pick up in the last 2 or 3 days, it could shoot up to Ashlynn. We'll just have to wait to find out...

**AduroT**

They've still got $60 coming from me yet...

**Maddermax**

Paypal payment is up, and Canadians get some cheaper shipping for a few things. Apparently, while the Paypal stuff won't be added onto the Kickstarter totals, it'll still count for stretch goals. From the comments:

PPI wrote:
We've been having a lot of discussion about how to handle the PayPal funding. Our concern is the lack of transparency. Kickstarter has a built in way of assuring accountability on the part of the project creator, and because we can't offer that with PayPal, we thought it safer not to cross the lines. But our backers mean everything to us and our intention since the onset has been to deliver the best game possible with whatever funding we raise. While there is no practical way to report PayPal revenue in real time, whatever it does raise, we'll add to the Kickstarter total at the end, and if it manages to help cross any of our stretch goals, then we'll open those up just as we would if we crossed them on Kickstarter alone.

Platuan4th wrote:
Nope, but we're only $79k away.

Kicktraq says we're trending to get Ret as a playable faction, but not sure that'll happen. Last week they had it getting way past the replay camera stretch.

The "Trending Towards" bit basically just takes the average pledge amount per day and multiplies it by the days left - this is obviously horribly inaccurate, thusly why it says "This is Not a Prediction" right underneath it. It starts off way too high because of the huge funding burst at the start pushes the daily average through the roof, then drops down throughout the campaign until it falls a little too low in it's prediction because it's not taking the final funding burst into account. The other tracker - the experimental "Projection" tab - is a bit better, though I'm not sure it'll account for the final burst either, but it's been a far better estimate since the first week went past. I'm still estimating that we'll be right on the edge of the Retribution funding goal, but I'm quite confident the Paypal pledges will push it over.
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**Davespil**

So is there any chance that they'll unlock the Hordes faction? You can play say Khador against Trolls, correct? I have no interest in the TT but the game looks interesting.

**cincydooley**

Davespil wrote:
So is there any chance that they'll unlock the Hordes faction? You can play say Khador against Trolls, correct? I have no interest in the TT but the game looks interesting.

I don't think so, not at this time. It sounds like their intent would be to launch the Hordes Tactics game as a "sister" game following this. I'd imagine they'd be compatible, so the Hordes one would probably be more like an expansion.

**PhantomViper**

Davespil wrote:
So is there any chance that they'll unlock the Hordes faction? You can play say Khador against Trolls, correct? I have no interest in the TT but the game looks interesting.

No. Hordes uses entirely different mechanics than Warmachine and would require a major overhaul of the game engine to pull of.

Hordes: Tactics is basically just a dream at this point in time.

**cincydooley**

PhantomViper wrote:
Davespil wrote:
So is there any chance that they'll unlock the Hordes faction? You can play say Khador against Trolls, correct? I have no interest in the TT but the game looks interesting.

No. Hordes uses entirely different mechanics than Warmachine and would require a major overhaul of the game engine to pull of.

Hordes: Tactics is basically just a dream at this point in time.

I guess it would be a ton different on a computer game than it would be in the TT. In the tabletop, its really only a tad different, but I can imagine they'd completely have to rewrite some of the programming here.

**PhantomViper**

cincydooley wrote:
PhantomViper wrote:
Davespil wrote:
So is there any chance that they'll unlock the Hordes faction? You can play say Khador against Trolls, correct? I have no interest in the TT but the game looks interesting.

No. Hordes uses entirely different mechanics than Warmachine and would require a major overhaul of the game engine to pull of.

Hordes: Tactics is basically just a dream at this point in time.

I guess it would be a ton different on a computer game than it would be in the TT. In the tabletop, its really only a tad different, but I can imagine they'd completely have to rewrite some of the programming here.

Yep, heard it on a podcast from Simon Berman, PPs community manager.

Apparently, even CoC's specific rules present a serious enough challenge to implement that that's the reason that they aren't including them in this KS.