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It has a giant robot beating down a giant monster with a goddamn boat. If you want more then that from your summer action movie/giant monster movie cinema then I honestly don't know how to relate to you as a human being.

The only thing that really annoyed me about the movie was the lack of action with the Russian robot. I was all built up for robo stalingrad and its like thwap thwap acid melting splat Frazzled sad.

Funnily, the way Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon go down is a common complaint.

On one hand, I agree.

On the other hand, it does set the stakes pretty soundly. These are hardened veterans, piloting the finest Mark 1 and one of the most advanced Mark IV's, and a pair of massive Catagory 4's just tear them apart.

The Mark V holds its own until a specific counter-measure is employed.

Still love when Otachi comes out of the water and Striker Eurkea is all "NOPE!" and proceeds to tear it a new one.

But if you don't see them in action they're just WTF? Its the classic martial arts/speghetti western. To make the bad boys/ good boys badass they have to be shown being badass first. If they show news footage or something of the Rooskie robot going to town on one first then it would have been better.

I would've liked a little flashback/old footage showing them in action too, but I also respect they had already spent $Texas getting it made, and it's not like there were a lot of superfluous expensive shots I wouldn't have wanted to see replaced.

But let's not gloss over, it wasn't just "beating them down to prove how badass these badguys are", they were specifically designed to counter the last standing Jaegers.

Gipsy Danger had an advantage in that they weren't expecting her to still be around.

I finally got to see it this weekend and I really enjoyed it. But I went into it knowing the story and acting would be dumb. I just wanted to see giant robots punching big monsters and got just what I wanted.

I also don't think they should do a sequel, it's fine as is and really doesn't need to be run into the ground like every other "franchise"

 Forar wrote:
Funnily, the way Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon go down is a common complaint.

On one hand, I agree.

On the other hand, it does set the stakes pretty soundly. These are hardened veterans, piloting the finest Mark 1 and one of the most advanced Mark IV's, and a pair of massive Catagory 4's just tear them apart.

The Mark V holds its own until a specific counter-measure is employed.

Still love when Otachi comes out of the water and Striker Eurkea is all "NOPE!" and proceeds to tear it a new one.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect

Did you watch it alone? I think the movie is best enjoyed with a group of friends so you can watch cool robot beat downs while MST3King the acting and dialogue.

 AduroT wrote:
Did you watch it alone? I think the movie is best enjoyed with a group of friends so you can watch cool robot beat downs while MST3King the acting and dialogue.

I had a wife, a mountain dog, and two wiener dogs but they all fell asleep on me. The young wiener dog literally fell asleep on me, on my chest to be precise. He was snoring in my ear. I tried to get GC to watch it, but she took one look and bolted. Its bad when you can't keep anime girl interested.

 Frazzled wrote:
The only thing that really annoyed me about the movie was the lack of action with the Russian robot. I was all built up for robo stalingrad and its like thwap thwap acid melting splat Frazzled sad.

A fair point. I too was disappointed, especially after how they sort of built up the track records of those two, the Russian one specifically.

Frankly the Jaegars didn't appear that tough at any time, until they pulled out swords and and started killing things. Would have been better to see the Rooskie go down after clobbering a bunch of them, finally being dragged down or something. They needed Ultraman in a big way...

I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Ouze wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
The only thing that really annoyed me about the movie was the lack of action with the Russian robot. I was all built up for robo stalingrad and its like thwap thwap acid melting splat Frazzled sad.

A fair point. I too was disappointed, especially after how they sort of built up the track records of those two, the Russian one specifically.

This is also my only complaint; it was a somewhat ignominious death. I remember exclaiming in the theatre: "Lookout, giant robot! NOOOooooo!"



side note: my primary project for the coming year is to built a set of Cherno Alpha drivesuits for my S/O & I.

 azazel the cat wrote:


side note: my primary project for the coming year is to built a set of Cherno Alpha drivesuits for my S/O & I.

Squee. That's so romantic.







Yes, I'm serious.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Because they're last resort weapons. There's a (not well explained) reason they hold them back, and it's Kaiju blue.

 -Loki- wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Because they're last resort weapons. There's a (not well explained) reason they hold them back, and it's Kaiju blue.

But hitting them with plasma or saw blades is just fine? Thats nonsense.

 Frazzled wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Because they're last resort weapons. There's a (not well explained) reason they hold them back, and it's Kaiju blue.

But hitting them with plasma or saw blades is just fine? Thats nonsense.

The back story has several of the other Jaeger edged weapons and projectiles designed to cauterize the wounds where possible, to minimize the horrific environmental catastrophe such a spill can be. Obviously there's still blood, but it's a lot less than was being released from killing them conventionally, since the Kaiju are essentially designed to 'self destruct', at least in some circumstances.

I believe Mako's family was killed by Kaiju blue.

From what I hear, the art book has a ton of back story stuff, and if you look up the writer (on tumblr, I think) he fills in a simply immense amount of info for those thirsting for more.

I was under the impression that the sword was added sometime between when the original pilot quit and when h came back and was using the rebuilt Gypsy Danger. I thought it was Mako who brought it up, so it may not have been part of the original design, which is one reason why it wasn't used sooner.

 Forar wrote:
From what I hear, the art book has a ton of back story stuff, and if you look up the writer (on tumblr, I think) he fills in a simply immense amount of info for those thirsting for more.

http://travisbeacham.tumblr.com/

He posts a lot of great art and info. I especially liked the little bit he wrote about Brawler Yukon being deployed against Karloff.

 Forar wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Because they're last resort weapons. There's a (not well explained) reason they hold them back, and it's Kaiju blue.

But hitting them with plasma or saw blades is just fine? Thats nonsense.

The back story has several of the other Jaeger edged weapons and projectiles designed to cauterize the wounds where possible, to minimize the horrific environmental catastrophe such a spill can be. Obviously there's still blood, but it's a lot less than was being released from killing them conventionally, since the Kaiju are essentially designed to 'self destruct', at least in some circumstances.

I believe Mako's family was killed by Kaiju blue.

From what I hear, the art book has a ton of back story stuff, and if you look up the writer (on tumblr, I think) he fills in a simply immense amount of info for those thirsting for more.

Back story is irrelevant when not shown on the actual screen (and still amazingly stupid).

vOv

Little doggies gotta do what little doggies gotta do.

Again, we're talking about a setting that immediately falls apart if physics looks too hard at it. Something that big cannot survive (explanation; silicon based lifeform, alternate dimension origin, etc, etc), the square/cube means Jaegers and Kaiju alike generally wouldn't even be able to move on surfaces that weren't specifically reinforced, etc, etc.

Like, we can nit-pik this thing to death.

Or revel in giant robots punching the gak out of giant monsters.

vOv

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Swords for the most part were useless. The Kaiju had already adapted to them and would rip them off as soon as they saw them. They were able to use the sword against Otachi because his extra appendage was removed and the other appendages were occupied (feet holding the jaeger and wings being used to fly). Basically Otachi was defenseless against the attack. Its the same reason why a lot of the projectile weapons were not used. Kaiju could anticipate them based on the big ass doors opening up and would dodge the attacks. That was why the Plasma Cannon was used in close combat so the Kaiju could not avoid the blasts. If you notice Striker Eureka used the missiles in his chest only after the Kaiju was stunned by a bunch of close combat attacks.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Yea, because acid blood would be so undamaging to the nearby landscape...

 sing your life wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I was disappointed the swords didn't come into play sooner.

Yea, because acid blood would be so undamaging to the nearby landscape...

Vs. living giant monster going all Godzilla on Tokyo?

Sing. I am watching a giant monster movie in which giant robots are beating the hell out of alien bio weapons from another dimension. I cannot communicate to you in English how few feths I give about the nearby landscape as long as the acid effect as it burns said landscape away is badass.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Sing. I am watching a giant monster movie in which giant robots are beating the hell out of alien bio weapons from another dimension. I cannot communicate to you in English how few feths I give about the nearby landscape as long as the acid effect as it burns said landscape away is badass.

Agreed completely. Its merely a cover for the Voltron Effect. Giant Japanese Robot Suits may only bring out the sword at the last three seconds of the battle.

I say they should have gone whole hog and Cherno Alpha a giant hammer. See? No blood.

But yeah, the whole bladed weapon argument goes out the window when Crimson Typhoon's signature move is three giant circular saw blades.

 Ahtman wrote:
I was under the impression that the sword was added sometime between when the original pilot quit and when h came back and was using the rebuilt Gypsy Danger. I thought it was Mako who brought it up, so it may not have been part of the original design, which is one reason why it wasn't used sooner.

This is the first good explanation I've yet read for why Raleigh did not use the sword previously and it fact seemed unaware of it's existence.

 Ouze wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
I was under the impression that the sword was added sometime between when the original pilot quit and when h came back and was using the rebuilt Gypsy Danger. I thought it was Mako who brought it up, so it may not have been part of the original design, which is one reason why it wasn't used sooner.

This is the first good explanation I've yet read for why Raleigh did not use the sword previously and it fact seemed unaware of it's existence.

mine was better...