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 Dr H wrote:
It's looking good.

The one bit I see needs some work is the roof plate with the holes in it.
The holes themselves are nice and rusty and that makes sense (broken surface = rust), but the rest of that plate still looks a little too clean. If it's been there long enough for the holes to get rusty, then the edges (especially the lowest point) would also have a little rust on them, and with all the acid rain, there would be rust streaks from the rusty patches towards the lowest edge.

The rest is perfect though.

Cheers mate! thanks for the input! i agree with you..... will have a think about the application of the acid rain streaks etc......

Thanks buddy!

Hey All,

Always good to share new tips and ideas so i thought i would share this one........

I was looking for a nice reliable and easy way for my riveting.... i know it has been the subject of a few threads here on the page...

I was having a think and then thought........ The small beads that beautitians use for nail art are very small.... cheap..... and come in the domed form i was after.........

So i had a look online and managed to pick up 1000 beads for£1.99!!!!

They arived this morning and i have to say i am excited.... they are 2mm diameter and i hope will be pretty simple to use..... the plastic should be resilient enough to superglue as they have to be glued and applied to nails......

So needless to say...... (After i finish my entry for Camkierhi comp)....... something is going to get rivetted the hell out of!

Maybe someone has used these before.. and if so then sorry for repeating it..... just thought it might help some people out!

Cheers guys,

They do look good, I got a bag of them off ebay, but the 0.7mm ones... They are fiddly buggers!
I am hoping they will make good studs/ rivets on marine armour.
I willbe watching to see how you get on with them. Are they for scenery or for model/marines?

Hi mate... yeh they are just what i have been looking for...... going to be using them for armour mostly.... might use some for the terrain competition to give them a test but ..... these ones like i say are 2m...... 0.7mm would just be too small for me! haha!

I have a half built Crassus Armoured Assault carrier i am determined to finish after the terrain project and my Estoc Assault Carrier so i think i will use them fully on that!

Cheers,

Cool, I look forward to seeing how you go with thse little beads, will you be sticking them on as-is? Or drill small holes so only the top half visible?

CAnt wait to see the Estoc done, the autogun turret looks great!

I also think Zinge do rivets on sprues too, but more the hex bolt shapes... Cold be worth a look for future projects


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 MagosBiff90 wrote:
The Plague Father's touch revealed......

I had exactly the same problem with my Zone Mortalis boards I'm making now ( in my Camo WIP blog) after I used salt.
Acrylic paint , being water based, seems to dissolve the salt crystals and lets them thru the paint. I had to seal my stuff with Enamel varnish before I could paint it !

I won't be using salt again !

The rest looks sweet !

Nice rivets! I wish I had more to say...um, oh yeah. That turret at the top of the previous page looks great, too. Keep it up.

 Warboss_Waaazag wrote:
Nice rivets! I wish I had more to say...um, oh yeah. That turret at the top of the previous page looks great, too. Keep it up.

Haha.... cheers mate! Thanks for looking in!

Ahoy all.......

After getting stuck into the terrain comp.... i have gone back and finished the Estoc Assault Carrier..... Had a tough time trying to come up with a foward compartment for the driver .. where the weapons unit was originally sitting..... i added a simple view unit and armour with some rivets......... IMHO i am thinking it is looking decent!

Next up is going to be the tracks......... i have intentionally kept the hull and track units simple as i want to do a nice design for the tracks.... and thanks to info from [user]Klaus, not Santa
[/user] i am going to have a go at resin casting.......

Anyways.... apart from that... i am going to add decals and then weathering....

Any C&C would be cool!

Cheers,

I'd say it definitely looks the part now!

Like the massive stub gun better, too, it gives (me) a more assault-oriented feel than the turret.

Just don't rust the heck out of this one too, you'll need a couple working ones too! Or do, they look great anyway!

 Littletower wrote:
I'd say it definitely looks the part now!

Like the massive stub gun better, too, it gives (me) a more assault-oriented feel than the turret.

Just don't rust the heck out of this one too, you'll need a couple working ones too! Or do, they look great anyway!

Thanks mate! Yeh i am happy with where it is going.... and no...... the motto for this one is "DUST NOT RUST" ...... this one is going to be fully operational!

I agree with you that the Autogun is the way forward..... i like the turret but going to keep it for another project......

Thanks for looking in!

This is looking nice.
I too prefer the more modern Stubber, vision devices and shield combo to the turret.
I look forward to your weatehring and dusting on this one.
And GOOD LUCK with the casting - let me know if you need anything.
Cheers
Klaus

Thanks Klaus, not Santa

I have found a good sourse of silicone and resin onlne.... so just counting down the days until payday....

But i will take your advise and mock up 4 sections of track and make sure i am happy with them..... I will share the end results when i have them done!

Cheers & Thanks again for looking in!

Looking great mate. Crust away, I say!

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Looking great mate. Crust away, I say!

haha cheers mate.... i supose a little bt of crust wouldnt do any harm right....

Really cool thread. Scratchbuilding tanks... takes me back.

Good luck with the resin casting. Just have a care with that stuff, eh.

Good job on the driver's compartment, looks like part of the kit.

Hey all, Hope all is good!

Got a first run of paint on the Estoc! IMHO its looking good.... little bit of crust on there but not much! And first time i had a little go at a "Light Earth" Pigment i bought.... for the dusting around the track units. Have not had a go at the "Spartan" Auto gun unit.... as i want to get a metalic look on the gun....and dont have anything yet......

Pay day at the end of the week so i will be looking to get the resin casting on the go soon!

And beleive it or not..... after the Estoc is completed.... i am going back to finish the MACHARIUS!!!!! About time!

Cheers All,

The weathering effects on that look perfect, it's just the right balance,
not too little and not too much.
And good luck with the casting, look forward to seeing the results .

Looks ACE!
The proper amount of weathering and dusting, color balance is also top!
Cheers
klaus

Agreed, fantastic work. The death guard salute you! Now, they need a Scythe flyer (or possibly a Sickle )

Hey All! Thanks for the feedback! The only thing i am geting annoyed with is the decals...... for some reason i cannot get them to adhere properly to the model.... if you see them close up they look like they might flake off at any point?!?! Realyl annoying... I aplied them after priming and sealed them in with matt varnish before i added any of the effects..... Any one help?!

Also........ I will be making th emockups for the tracks tonight.... might do a couple of varients to see what you think! Am thinkinf of a system like the British WW1 tank tracks where they had the addition of the "grouser" units..... for added track length and ability to operate in very muddy terrain....... ambitious... but hey..... aim high!!!

Hey All....

Had a little go at my idea for the tracks for the Estoc!

Trying to keep it quite basic with no undercuts etc..... i think the dimensions should be good... i want them to be quite chunky looking.... as it needs a lot of grip to cope with the high powered engines.... The rivets are going to be the 2mm nail beads i bought recently..... just need to make my mock ups now and try an get them in as good condition as i can..... After keeping the hull nice and simple i wanted the tracks to really stand out.

Anyone spot any potential issues with casting etc?? Or any changes i might make....... please let me know!

Cheers All,

Good job on the weathering.

Assuming the direction of travel for those tracks are right to left (so the small outer protrusions are on the trailing edge), then I see no obvious problems with the design. Worth a mock-up to see what they look like.

As for casting. A single side cast (will give them a flat underside) should be fine.

Lose the decals, compadre. In the end they are nothing but trouble. But do use them as a guide for some freehand or stencilling. You will not regret it.

Disclaimer: I'm very anti-decal. Nothing personal. I just do not like them. On anything. Ever.

Hey again all!

Thanks for the comments Dr HRed Harvest

I had a very quick go at making some mock up at a couple of track units for the Estoc.... and first thing i noticed.. is that i am going to need a new material to really get some sharp edges if i am going to cast them!. Secondly... i am really happy with my new 2mm Rivets...... and thirdly...... the track units i have i think look pretty good... but are probarbly a bit to wide!

As you will see... the grey card didnt give me neat edges... but at the momment i just dont have anything thick enough.....

Any comments would be great guys!

Thanks,

The Estoc looks really cool, the tracks are an interesting design are the rivets 2mm diameter?

I'd remove the single rivet(?) on the big flat part of the treads it would be like stilettos on something designed to spread weight. Oh and any bubble on it would be more noticeable.
They Look really good, Its a nice design.

Why the decal hate Red?

Well Noodles, many a bad experience as a kid when I built Revell models. Some scars never fade. No matter what, the things always 'silvered' on me. Or wrinkled.

The tracks are indeed too wide relative to the width of the hull and track guide. I agree with Noodles, the center rivet is unneeded. Perhaps the side treads could be combined to one angled tread, so they look like '/ \' or doubled and look like '><'. it would be easier than what you have, when you do a reduced size version.

Yeah, perhaps a little too wide.
Agreed with OMN about the rivet.

As for material, what are you limiting yourself to?

Plasticard would be easy to get sharp edges with, but involves buying plasticard.

Milliput (or other similar putty) is good to get sharp edges and is nice to work with after it's set (sanding, sawing, drilling...). I've used it for casting masters. Again, involves buying.

If you want to stick with card, have you tried laminating it to get it thicker. This will also make it stronger and you should be able to get a hard edge to it. Will also bulk up the track links, as they look a little thin as they are there.

Actually in lieu of buying plasticard if you have any of those plastic bread bag clips...


You could use them. They are the right thickness, and essentially plasticard.

Easiest way to 'harden' paper card edges is with watered down PVA or Aliphatic Resiin (wood) glue. I cannot say it would be good enough to for molds though.