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Compel wrote: The thing I find weird is a new Tactical Squad box AND a new Sternguard box.
I would have thought they wouldn't have bothered with a new Tactical squad at all. Seems a bit redundant.
The Blood Angels 'Death Company' kit for example, works great when mixed in with Tacticals to make more unique units. Surely an equivalent Sternguard box would have pulled off the same for codex marines?
They really need to just rename that kit "Blood Angels" since even the codex shows pics of the models being used as everything from DC, tacticals, Assault squads, veterans, even devastators.
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RiTides wrote: Agreed... heck, I'm even a sucker enough that I might want a limited cover version just so it doesn't have ultramarines on it!
I love this idea! I am looking forward with great curiosity to see what actually turns out with this codex (anticipating a Blood Angels codex in the future).
I normally consider myself to be a sane, rational man. But there is no upper limit on the price I would pay for a limited edition imperial fists-fronted codex.
BryllCream wrote: I normally consider myself to be a sane, rational man. But there is no upper limit on the price I would pay for a limited edition imperial fists-fronted codex.
I just want to take a moment, as others have already, to point out that despite my criticism, if this is even close to being reality, I will be in total agreement with you, and will be like this for the whole period leading up to the release...
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I truly hope the new armor-on-armor looks as cool as I hope it will. Rules are one thing, and I have played pieces that are competitive that I personally dislike the look of, but ultimately I enjoy a good-looking force.
I have a bit of trepidation about this, although I will be very happy to NOT have the Dreadknight V2.0...
Meh, my enthusiasim is quite muted. Honestly, what I want most are plastic sternguard and updated tacticals (honestly, the first-gen plastic kits ought to be re-done, none of them have aged particularly well; Chaos marines, tacticals, cadians, catachans, eldar jetbikes, etc), but I don't think I could bring myself to paint more marines.
Honestly, they bore me to paint, and I don't enjoy fielding the army very much either. especially given GW's further direction in bling and action figures. We'll see what the release has in store, but I doubt it'll get much attention from me, likely nothing beyond the codex.
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DaemonForge wrote: I truly hope the new armor-on-armor looks as cool as I hope it will. Rules are one thing, and I have played pieces that are competitive that I personally dislike the look of, but ultimately I enjoy a good-looking force.
I have a bit of trepidation about this, although I will be very happy to NOT have the Dreadknight V2.0...
Sorry buddy, DreadKnight v2 is what is to be expected. A general issue DK, one that's not fitted to battle daemons: it fits the exo-suit description, and the rest of the stuff like having bolters/frag launchers on chest would suggest it's pretty big.. As someone noted, "GK was the first 6th ed. release" - big gribblie kits and flyers for everyone.. and why would they leave the most popular army without one?
Rest of the release sounds plausible.. Death Company -style Vets box, dual option AA tank, new Tacs box. That's four plastic boxes, sounds about right as there's already a flyer.
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The BT mention sure is a curveball. Then again, Hastings never had BTs on his list of codicies to come in the near future. So it might indeed be supplement city for them. Which might actually still capture them pretty well in fluff and rules while allowing them more toys from the basic SM codex.
I don't play SMs anymore, but I certainly welcome some new AA options into the metagame.
I just don't get the drama over the Black Templars.
You are a successor that never should have gotten a supplement in the first place and always should have just been a few pages in the SM codex. Flesh Tearers don't have a standalone codex and aren't crying for one. Neither are DA and their vast number of unforgiven successors. Hell, if the Wolf Brothers had not been disbanded, they wouldn't rate a standalone or supplement either. Hopefully BT get rolled rightly into the SM codex and balance is restored.
If you are jumping on the Dinobot meme bandwagon regarding the new Warhammer 40k Chaos models, grow the feth up!
You are a successor that never should have gotten a supplement in the first place and always should have just been a few pages in the SM codex. Flesh Tearers don't have a standalone codex and aren't crying for one. Neither are DA and their vast number of unforgiven successors. Hell, if the Wolf Brothers had not been disbanded, they wouldn't rate a standalone or supplement either. Hopefully BT get rolled rightly into the SM codex and balance is restored.
Wait, what?
Sir do you have any real knowledge or BT 's or know about the DA codex?
Grey Templar wrote: The Riptide can't be a giant death robot, its completely lacking a sword or massive chainsaw. All giant death robots have swords or massive chainsaws.
Baby Dreadknight squads sounds very appealing to me. I also would have never thought I'd be suckered into buying a limited edition codex, but an Iron Hands one sounds very nice indeed.
The black templars are, or were, on a permanent crusade deployment, with radical divergence from codex organization. I would be rather disappointed if they were rolled into the regular Space Marine codex - both the Blood Angels and the Dark Angels were better represented by the basic SM codex than Templars. Honestly, even after their new book that's still the case for Dark Angels.
Tyr Grimtooth wrote: You are a successor that never should have gotten a supplement in the first place and always should have just been a few pages in the SM codex. Flesh Tearers don't have a standalone codex and aren't crying for one. Neither are DA and their vast number of unforgiven successors. Hell, if the Wolf Brothers had not been disbanded, they wouldn't rate a standalone or supplement either. Hopefully BT get rolled rightly into the SM codex and balance is restored.
The Flesh Tearers and the Dark Angels' 'vast' numbers of successors (all 6 of them) don't have their own codex because they follow largely the same organisational structure and combat doctrines as their progenitors.
BT had their own codex because they follow a completely different organisational structure and have a completely different combat doctrine to other major Chapters. Being a successor Chapter had nothing to do with it... it's all down to how different they are from other existing Chapters. Imperial Fists don't warrant their own book, because they are a strict Codex Astartes Chapter, and so are represented adequately by Codex: Space Marines. Black Templars are not.
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spacewolf407 wrote: So no new SW material on the upcoming SM codex? Well thats a bummer.
Why would there be...?
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Marines dont need a point drop. You get 3 different weapon on a single model with 3+ armor and grenades with free specialist weapons. What more do you want?
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
Graviton guns guns are back.... next up will be the fething Virus Outbreak card rising from the grave to molest my poor Orks again
Oh, come now. I have an old White Dwarf which had a battle report between Orks Jervis J) and Space Wolves Andy C) in which a virus grenade only killed 6 Orks. I have it on reliable authority that they only had to reroll the dice 6,000 times to get that result.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I do like the Space Wolf 13th Company from the Eye of Terror codex and built my Space Wolves around that theme. As a matter of fact, that whole codex was fairly decent for Chaos cultist armies as well as Imperium. The Eldar part of it I wasn't too wild about, though.
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If they're redoing the tactical marine w/ the shiny new box does that mean they're gonna cut it down to a 5 pack now?
The plastic h.q. kit is pretty sweet though, assuming said rumors are true....
The power armour for the power armour does seem kinda pants-on-head though... just doesn't seem marine-ish.
The new tanks seem more "money grab" than usual. The TFC couldn't have a flakk option or the razor back couldn't get a sky fire option to handle the A.A. needs?
Now I'm really curious as to what "new/shiny" Space Wolves and Blood Angels will get?
The nameless wrote: If they're redoing the tactical marine w/ the shiny new box does that mean they're gonna cut it down to a 5 pack now?
The plastic h.q. kit is pretty sweet though, assuming said rumors are true....
The power armour for the power armour does seem kinda pants-on-head though... just doesn't seem marine-ish.
The new tanks seem more "money grab" than usual. The TFC couldn't have a flakk option or the razor back couldn't get a sky fire option to handle the A.A. needs?
Now I'm really curious as to what "new/shiny" Space Wolves and Blood Angels will get?
I just hope they remember NOT to give SW any flyers since their disdain of flying and jump packs is such a hilarious part of their fluff.
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Space wolves use flyers... Our at least, they use thunder hawks, which up until recently would have been the only option for them anyway. It's just jump packs they refuse to use.
So giving them access to something storm raven-esque wouldn't break the fluff any more than it did for everyone else who suddenly gained hitherto unheard of flying machines.
just so it doesn't have ultramarines on it!
I am looking forward with great curiosity to see what actually turns out with this codex (anticipating a Blood Angels codex in the future).
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