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 Harriticus wrote:
I don't know what GW has against properly proportioned heads. It all begin with the Dreadknight and has extended to things such as the Riptide as well. Yet again, the Centurions would look much better if they had a properly proportioned helmet.

Not really. Give them a bigger head, and they'd stop looking like large battlefield-armour/constructs, etc.. and start looking simply like some Space Marine variant in a wrong scale. Like placing a 54mm Inquisitor Space Marine into an army of regular 28mm Space Marines. They don't look "large", they simply look "wrong scale":

 Crimson wrote:


But we don't know how big they are!

Ah, I feel like I've got a sense for how big they are from the pictures. Yes, that isn't foolproof, but I'm about 90% certain they're about double the height of a marine going by the head size etc.

 Eldarain wrote:

Big resilient unit that is taken in a max unit of three which can lay down a varied barrage of heavy weapons fire...

"Varied" is a bit of a stretch as oblits fire a different weapon every turn, and these guys are allowed three different weapons in a squad... Devastators are more varied...

 Crimson wrote:

I made this quick comparison pic to so we can see how Centurion would scale depending on whether it was on 60mm or 40mm base. I still think that 50mm would be a realistic option as both of these look kinda odd.

The pic really doesn't work as the terminator and its base are bigger than the dreadnought.

 ceorron wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
I could not have imagined a more ridiculous design. Really I couldn't.

Are those powerfists in with the heavy weapon in each hand or just really big gloves I can't tell.

I can! Same design, but cover them with spikes, give them massive jump packs and warped, clawed feet.

And a pony.

Thats only slightly more ridiculous than these designs.
I'm going with big gloves seen as the close combat ones seem to need the CC attachment on their gloves.

Then give them tank track roller skates so they can go faster, and a mount an Astartes Grenade Launcher on their pelvic plate!

And the challenge was only for a "more ridiculous design" not for the severity of the ridiculous,

Is there a universal heavy bolter size we could go off of?

 Theophony wrote:

The pic really doesn't work as the terminator and its base are bigger than the dreadnought.

All their bases are same width. That way you can compare Centurion to dread if you assume it's on 60mm base and compare it to Terminator if you assume it's on 40mm base.

WOW, and I thought Space Marnines were already an ironic exaggeration...THOSE things easily bridge the gap to pure sarcasm!

The litmus test of true SM players: If you are too pansy to field them in all seriousness then you are not worthy to play SM!

New space marines? Not to be the killjoy but doesnt this happen every edition?

treslibras wrote:
The litmus test of true SM players: If you are too pansy to field them in all seriousness then you are not worthy to play SM!

I don't know, it seems a bit harsh to judge SM players on whether or not they are willing to field a model that waddles onto the battlefield.

It can't be 40mm. The proportions would be so hilariously off the idea of getting a marine into that thing would be comical. At 60mm he could at least roll up into a ball and sit in its chest.

I saw the pics of the Centurion and it doesn't look like a 50 ton Centurion at all now if we are talking about GW copying a 100ton Atlas.

M.

Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

My favourite part of all this so far is the bearded marine heads.

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

Significantly better, imo.

DRC wrote:
New space marines? Not to be the killjoy but doesnt this happen every edition?

That somehow invalidates people looking forward to, and getting excited by, a new release how?

People get excited a out the new footie season/new COD/Christmas every year, don't they?

Besides, this release actually features a new unit type, rather than a new variant on an existing one, so is perhaps grounds for a bit more discussion (even if most of it is negative.)

treslibras wrote:
WOW, and I thought Space Marnines were already an ironic exaggeration...THOSE things easily bridge the gap to pure sarcasm!

The litmus test of true SM players: If you are too pansy to field them in all seriousness then you are not worthy to play SM!

Yes of course. Anyone who doesn't like these are clearly 'pansy'. Their criticism has nothing to do with the fact that these new models don't fit the SM aesthetic, that they don't appear to even be able to move and you would have to chop up a marine to fit them in there.

No everyone is clearly just a sissy and should man up and give GW $78 for models the person thinks are awful.


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 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

Looks better, now if the thigh and groin plates could be removed, we may start to approach 'tolerable'.

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

I say worse. When you consider that your average Marine weighs about a TON in power armor, those guys are easilly 2-3 tons, which means those side toes are pretty much required. They help the Marine balance more effectively on uneven ground, and disperse the weight over a larger area, making the ground less likely to collapse because it's putting an actual ton to a ton and a half of pressure onto an area the size of a basket ball.

Is it still a bit silly even when considering that? Hell yes, and I'm fine with that. I like my 40k cranked past 11.

To try a gauge the height of the Centurions I've tried to use the helmet as it seems to be a standard size, or at least I'm assuming its the same size as the one in tactical box set

You can see the size of the barrels next to the guy on the left hand side of both of these pictures...boom...done...bigger than a terminator.

So the new guy is roughly 6 a quarter heads high, the tac marine is about 4 and half.

This makes him about 1/3 taller(ish) than a marine.

That's not nearly tall enough to fit a marine in that thing.

Not that that's ever stopped anyone in the imperium before.

 Koppo wrote:
To try a gauge the height of the Centurions I've tried to use the helmet as it seems to be a standard size, or at least I'm assuming its the same size as the one in tactical box set

And that makes the Centurion base 50mm!

 Theophony wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

I made this quick comparison pic to so we can see how Centurion would scale depending on whether it was on 60mm or 40mm base. I still think that 50mm would be a realistic option as both of these look kinda odd.

The pic really doesn't work as the terminator and its base are bigger than the dreadnought.

The pic works fine. The op was correct neither scale looks right maybe they really are on mew 50mm bases maybe it GW way of slowing the proxies down a bit.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

Spoiler:

 Lord Scythican wrote:
Ok I cut the inner and outer toes off the left one. Better or worse?

Honestly, I prefer them with the toes. Without they look a bit like they're wearing booties.

Good Photoshopping, though.

Having looked at the pictures for a long time I find myself agreeing that the groin plates look odd - it's one of those things where once it's seen I can't unsee it. They fit under the thigh plates ( ) so they don't look like they could move when the suit takes a step forward - rather, the leg would just clang against this unyielding metal plate, or the thigh plate would grind on it. Are the thigh plates riveted to the groin (ouch) or what? Hence, I see why people are saying they would have a waddling gait.

I think they could look more convincing if the groin armour was simply left off altogether.

DRC wrote:
New space marines? Not to be the killjoy but doesnt this happen every edition?

Doesn't mean you can't get excited, it'll have been 4 years and 11 months since the last codex was released.

Cover the whole head area in some sort of armored dome and you've got something, although I guess it might look a bit high-tech

Maybe they are genetically engineered marines who have a super thin waist and a rediculously wide chest as well as long legs and arms. Even more so than usual.

 xole wrote:
Maybe they are genetically engineered marines who have a super thin waist and a rediculously wide chest as well as long legs and arms. Even more so than usual.

Or their normal Marines who use a different kind of interface system to control the armor.

Target acquired. Centurians fail to impress. Looks like a TMNT in power armor. Salamanders centurians will really look like ninja turtles. Look at those hands! Completely devoid of.detail. I know i love painting things like that. Someone please buy those so i can mutilate and obliterate them. I like the concept. The design and execution leaves a lot to be desired. They look much better with ork pilots. Gretchen pilots would make me laugh in a good way. In the hands of a skilled painter, they could look bad ass. I'm imagining iron hands with tons of body damage and wear and tear. Maybe an arm without armor casing and a cyborg head or iron hands bionic helmet. Even an imperial fist or white scars paint job with battle damage could be cool.

As for everything else; HELL YES! Just in time to round out my formations for apocalypse. I love the new tank and i hope there is yet another new tank with a heavy gravity cannon. Those grav weapons are sick and i imagine will be a hot item for bits dealers. The new HQs look like shiny new targets for me to chew on. I love it.

If there upper bodies are big enough then I might try mounting them on tracks. Though it probably won't the SM aesthetic.

...Are you tying to use TMNT as a derogatory remark...if so you have utterly failed.

Those turtle kick @ss.