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Orock wrote:
No interest at all in looking like the villan from the 5th element with a servo skull flying around me, as I "accuse" the innocent of herasy with accuser class bullets.

Well, then we can all be shot at with hearsay bullets! Heresy... herasy... hearsay... news and rumours...

Thank you, I'll be here all night, ladies and gentlemen!

Does anyone remember if the last space hulk got a big WD push before it came out?

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
Does anyone remember if the last space hulk got a big WD push before it came out?

Its existence was denied on Games Day Germany one day before release, so no. Only when it was sold out was it safe to talk about it in WD.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
Does anyone remember if the last space hulk got a big WD push before it came out?

Its existence was denied on Games Day Germany one day before release, so no. Only when it was sold out was it safe to talk about it in WD.

So we can probably expect the same type of treatment with this one

With all the leaked SM pics I was worried about the lack of new rumors. Still jazzed about this rumor.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
Does anyone remember if the last space hulk got a big WD push before it came out?

Its existence was denied on Games Day Germany one day before release, so no. Only when it was sold out was it safe to talk about it in WD.

So we can probably expect the same type of treatment with this one

With all the leaked SM pics I was worried about the lack of new rumors. Still jazzed about this rumor.

It does seem odd that we've heard nothing further, but are getting rumors for Nids in Nov...

D

Everything you have been told is a lie.../thread

rustproof wrote:
Everything you have been told is a lie.../thread

You said that in the last thread too.

Are you for serious or just messing around. Inquiring minds want to know.

It is a 'joke' that has been inflicted upon us ever since GW famously said it...just before they 'revealed' Space Hulk to the world...

...even though the world already knew it was coming.

I think.

It predates Space Hulk, it was the tagline to the original Inquisitor game. They had a big =I= in WD with the words "Everything you have been told is a lie." This was back when they actually announced things more than -3 days* in advance.


*It's negative 3 days because by the time they announce it, it's already sold out.

I haven't the faintest clue, I just think its quite a fitting statement considering not only the subject matter, but the situation with the unknown quantities of gw's release schedule. (I hope it is true because its like 6th edition for me, straight from my wishlist..)


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Also there was a website with a code to figure out, as a child I rang the trolls at lenton to get the answer to see what the site was, he said: "The end always justifys the means, try to keep this in mind" or something..TEAJTM was the password and it was a site about Brother Artemis of the Deathwatch if I remember right..


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 Ozymandias wrote:
It predates Space Hulk, it was the tagline to the original Inquisitor game. They had a big =I= in WD with the words "Everything you have been told is a lie." This was back when they actually announced things more than -3 days* in advance.


*It's negative 3 days because by the time they announce it, it's already sold out.

^^This

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

I thought it was specially used in reference to the "Mystery Box" the year Space Hulk came out too though?

 Brother SRM wrote:
Guys who work at stores, GW or not, know just as much as we do.

As somebody who owns stores and speaks frequently with GW I can tell you that this is true - for the most part. Every now and then I get confirmation of rumors but only when release dates are so close that it doesn't really matter anymore. Most of the time my rep doesn't even know about the rumors on the net or chooses to pretend that he's not heard of them. I like torturing him with talking about things that I know he can't talk about.

Oh, and I contractually couldn't speak about anything publicly even if he told me stuff.

I really hope that this skirmish game is being released.

I'm finding tabletop army scale games waaaay too expensive to continue with and skirmish games seem to be the way fwd.

 Alpharius wrote:
I thought it was specially used in reference to the "Mystery Box" the year Space Hulk came out too though?

Indeed, GW crew on GD Germany wore T-Shirts with this slogan, mocking the fact that one day before release, they were not allowed to say anything.

This would tie-in with the release schedule that was leaked last summer, with the genestealer cults and arbites enforcer on it...

Genestealer Cults and Arbites?

Dr. Bizarre wrote:
This would tie-in with the release schedule that was leaked last summer, with the genestealer cults and arbites enforcer on it...

It's fake, wrong, debunked, incorrect, false, a prank, nonsense, etc etc etc. We've known that for months now, why do people keep referring to it?

Our GW is doing a midnight release for this
Will keep you posted

 Nurgle wrote:
Our GW is doing a midnight release for this
Will keep you posted

Did they give any details?

And, on what date?

Is it pure coincidence that this is going to arrive at a similar time to Mantic's Deadzone? Also the concept would sound to be quite similar..

 Pacific wrote:
Is it pure coincidence that this is going to arrive at a similar time to Mantic's Deadzone? Also the concept would sound to be quite similar..

Yes? Isn't this when GW has always released this sort of product?

I thought we weren't getting our first Deadzone shipments until early December. I'd be happy to be wrong though, I just don't remember.

I don't believe there is any connection between an Inquisition release and Deadzone.

I *do* think that GW has been watching all of the money flowing through skirmish games and have been licking their chops. The only question is how do they exploit it? Why, by making it the mystery box that comes out generally in the fall of some years! Which I feel has brought about all of the talk on whether or not an Inquisition game would be supported or left out to be sold for exorbitant prices on eBay.

Honestly, I feel they had the right sort of idea many years ago with Inquisitor, but the scale was incompatible with the vast resources players had in 40k and I doubt many would want to go about making upscale versions of terrain from the exact same universe. This time around as long as the models are in 28mm scale it will sell very well.

 Accolade wrote:

Honestly, I feel they had the right sort of idea many years ago with Inquisitor, but the scale was incompatible with the vast resources players had in 40k and I doubt many would want to go about making upscale versions of terrain from the exact same universe. This time around as long as the models are in 28mm scale it will sell very well.

I think the Skirmish "Idea" (and the fluff/art) was just about the only thing they got right about Inquisitor. The scale choice was far from the only problem. Rather it was that they produced an overly granular Ruleset that didn't know whether it wanted to be an RPG or a really complicated wargame. Inquisitor has it's fans for whom the mix was just right, but not many.

Especially baffling, considering they already had at least 4 examples (with many shared mechanics) of Warband Skirmish games that were fairly well received by players. They could have used mechanics from any or all of Mordheim, Necromunda, LoTR SBG or Legends of the Old West and put out a great Warband Skirmish game, but they didn't. Hopefully things will be different this time around.

Information leaks about Space Marines for Sept. and Tyranids for Nov. are some of the largest and earliest in a few years, yet there is still not a shred of substantiating evidence for this October "mystery box" (shudder) rumor. It seems a bit odd in light of how much has leaked out about the releases for the surrounding months.

 Nurgle wrote:
Our GW is doing a midnight release for this
Will keep you posted

If any company would attempt a midnight release party for a product they won't reveal until then, it's GW. They'll probably take preorders while people wait in line, too, without any idea what it's for yet.

 Oaka wrote:

 Nurgle wrote:
Our GW is doing a midnight release for this
Will keep you posted

If any company would attempt a midnight release party for a product they won't reveal until then, it's GW. They'll probably take preorders while people wait in line, too, without any idea what it's for yet.

Taking preorders would be an admission that there was something to preorder. Attendance at the midnight release will determine staff pay at that location for the next year, but any release of information will result in immediate termination.

Hiring a paranoid schizophrenic locked in a box as your head of marketing was always more of a long range approach, but we are finally starting to see it pay off for GW.

Especially baffling, considering they already had at least 4 examples (with many shared mechanics) of Warband Skirmish games that were fairly well received by players. They could have used mechanics from any or all of Mordheim, Necromunda, LoTR SBG or Legends of the Old West and put out a great Warband Skirmish game, but they didn't. Hopefully things will be different this time around.

Don't forget Gorkamorka! Nearly the exact same mechanics as Necromunda and Mordheim, but introduced well-balanced and functioning vehicle rules to the mix.

All GW really would have to do is release a hybrid of the Necromunda and Gorkamorka rulesets, and remove the gang theme and replace it with soldiers from warbands in the greater 40K universe, and they would have a sure-hit. Tons of people already love how those games play on the table, despite doing all of GW's work for them with ongoing support.

Alas, I don't think they are capable in the least of supporting a game that doesn't have the sheer inertia of their main two games (the only thing really keeping them on top) as they have proven such a thing time and again with every single game produced through Specialist Games. They support non-core games for about two seconds, and then they immediately move on.

Also, their skirmish games of the past were based upon the 2nd edition 40K ruleset, which worked awesome for such games- which were better suitable for such skirmish rules in the first place than for the main wargame, I think. But I expect this one to be based on the 6th edition ruleset, so they can indoctrinate players into the main 40K game that much easier. Which seems to me like it will have lots of bland stats, backed up by figures having keywords to give them "special qualities" like in the main game.

I hate to be pessimistic, but I have been with GW since the mid-90's and have seen all of their blunders.

I'm horribly torn on this - while I would really, really like to see an well-made Inquisition-themed skirmish game, my wallet would be really, really, REALLY grateful if they were to publish a Blood Bowl set.