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Says some random site.

As I said, the author and location of the infromation are both easily identifiable in Kroot's posts. If you want to verify him, do it yourself.

I did. By asking for a link.

Stealing?

As in information about some niche hobby 99% of the persons on earth could care less and that is posted /spreaded on Public forums?

Man Kroot your a bad bad boy!

 Zweischneid wrote:
I did. By asking for a link.

In other words, you asked him to do it for you, despite being in possession of all information necessary to locate the source youself.

I think we're not getting anywhere here, so let's just leave it at that, okay?

 Zweischneid wrote:
I did. By asking for a link.

Okay, to stop your aggressive spamming of all rumour threads here the links:
Warseer: http://www.warseer.com/forums/forum.php
faeit212: http://natfka.blogspot.de/
And when I attribute a post to "zhangyi over at Warseer", it is by a poster named zhangyi over at the Warseer forum.
Hope that helps.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I get that it's nice to have links and everything, but do you really have to ask in every thread where Kroothawk is posting things?

I think he's actually madly in love with 'ol Kroots.

~Tim?

Back on topic, please. Kroothawk's method is sufficient for the staff here at DakkaDakka. If anyone would like a url link to the rumors he cites, please PM him with a respectful request.

xruslanx wrote:
The original Inquisitor was an RPG that they released a few models for. It was never intended to be a model game.

And yet the rulebook states on page 19 that players need '...a selection of miniatures to represent their characters...' in order to play the game.

GW described Inquisitor as a 'Narrative Wargame'. It was a miniatures wargame that utilised an RPG-style narrative system. In 28mm, with the sort of support that Necromunda received, it could have been huge.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Hidden between Dark Elf rumours:

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence (the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40

Emphasis by me.

Very exciteing find kroot! I'm still holding carefull optimism for this.

This 40K-scale Inquisition game sounds good. All the Blanchitsu articles were great, and if they can produce some Inquisitors and retinue in plastic, with the same detail as Dark Vengeance, I'm in.

 Fishboy wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
My prediction: They make it limited, produce stock for only 2 days and then celebrate selling out so fast (Space Hulk strategy).

For a few years GW has been trying to produce a one off game that leads into the 40K univers that they can sell in standard stores like Toys R Us. Maybe this is that step but then again....

If they have, they're doing a very poor job of it. No retailer is going to buy into a $100 Space Hulk for $100 Dreafleet box. Those were intended as hobby purchases, for hobby stores.

Although I did hear they were recently laughed out of Wal-Mart, with their prices.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

This could be cool. Though I guess there's a chance it could fail. And besides, it'd have to be really good for me to fork out on the inevitable large price tag.

I doubt I would anyway, as I really dislike Blanche artwork and if the models are inspired by it, well...

 Mr. Konrad wrote:
I'm not sure about Gorkamorka adding functioning vehcile rules. Replayed it recently and it was chart after chart after chart for the vehicles and far too much checking per shot.

I recently replayed it too. Gorkamorka addvehicle MAL-functioning rules. It's not a game, it's a random Orky vehicular mayhem generator. So much fun we've got a game scheduled for next month! WAAAAAAGH! CRASH! BOOM!

This too. Gorkamorka was an excuse to make the then-new plastic Ork trukk. If they really went whole hog and made even more plastic vehicle and super-detailed Ork warrior models (think of all the companies that do add-on bits) and some accessory sprues, it would be great.

Then again, Gorkamorka is also the game that nearly bankrupted the company.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Some of the coolest models and conversions of GW's stuff has been done under the influence of Blanche, I mean look at the BFG models, some of the best GW produced (the Imperial and Chaos fleets at least), then here some more stuff inspired by Blanche:
http://spikyratpack.blogspot.com
http://legionofplastic.blogspot.com
http://isstvan.blogspot.com

 Breotan wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Is it pure coincidence that this is going to arrive at a similar time to Mantic's Deadzone? Also the concept would sound to be quite similar..

I'd say it's a coincidence. GW models take 18-30 months to actually come out from the time they're initially designed, so unless they were just sitting on this stuff for a long, long time, it's purely coincidence.

And why would GW ever be concerned about Mantic? Except for people using Mantic modes as filler for WHFB games, I don't think they even show up on GW's radar.

Don't be too sure. With so many companies making models in plastic now, and Mantic making clear knock-offs of their stuff, the barrier to entry has never been lower.

Warzone came the closest to giving GW a run for their money, but there was also Vor and Void at that time. Now, with GW's prices being at an all-time high, we're seeing competitors as well.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 chris_valera wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Is it pure coincidence that this is going to arrive at a similar time to Mantic's Deadzone? Also the concept would sound to be quite similar..

I'd say it's a coincidence. GW models take 18-30 months to actually come out from the time they're initially designed, so unless they were just sitting on this stuff for a long, long time, it's purely coincidence.

And why would GW ever be concerned about Mantic? Except for people using Mantic modes as filler for WHFB games, I don't think they even show up on GW's radar.

Don't be too sure. With so many companies making models in plastic now, and Mantic making clear knock-offs of their stuff, the barrier to entry has never been lower.

Warzone came the closest to giving GW a run for their money, but there was also Vor and Void at that time. Now, with GW's prices being at an all-time high, we're seeing competitors as well.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

And looking at the recent Mantic Men-at-arms, they're a waaays off in terms of quality. Most of the other companies (resurrected Warzone, etc.) all are charging right in the same ballpark as GW prices. So its not like the competition is really overwhelming with either cost savings or quality (certain small lines, boutique games, 5 model skirmish games excepted of course).

As far as the Inquisition game, if it has Blanche styled minis, that would not be value added for me. I dislike his particular style regardless of how iconic it is. However, if GW makes it limited ed (as we know they would), I'd have to plunk down for the rules, so they'd have my sale anyway.

So what do you like about 40k then? *confused*

 Cruentus wrote:
And looking at the recent Mantic Men-at-arms, they're a waaays off in terms of quality. Most of the other companies (resurrected Warzone, etc.) all are charging right in the same ballpark as GW prices. So its not like the competition is really overwhelming with either cost savings or quality (certain small lines, boutique games, 5 model skirmish games excepted of course).

As far as the Inquisition game, if it has Blanche styled minis, that would not be value added for me. I dislike his particular style regardless of how iconic it is. However, if GW makes it limited ed (as we know they would), I'd have to plunk down for the rules, so they'd have my sale anyway.

Mantic is all over the place, and they took some brickbats for those goblin archers, but they started strong, with those zombies, skeletons and ghouls. People say the elves look bad until you see them in person.

Other companies charge as much because theyre niche, but Mantic regiment boxes are clearly lower in price; $25 for Mantic versus $35+ for GW.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 Malika2 wrote:
So what do you like about 40k then? *confused*

Just because one does not like JB's art does not mean one cant like 40k. I hate his horrid scribbles and paint splatters, but still like 40k for the background. It is a stupid notion that the love of 40k is dependent on one liking his bad art.

Yes i know he had a hand in the formation of 40k lore, but that was decades ago. And it still looked crap at that time. Now withh so many talented artists about in the buisness his art just looks even worse.

 chris_valera wrote:
Then again, Gorkamorka is also the game that nearly bankrupted the company.

I never heard that- what happened?

 Malika2 wrote:
Some of the coolest models and conversions of GW's stuff has been done under the influence of Blanche, I mean look at the BFG models, some of the best GW produced (the Imperial and Chaos fleets at least), then here some more stuff inspired by Blanche:
http://spikyratpack.blogspot.com
http://legionofplastic.blogspot.com
http://isstvan.blogspot.com

Yes, but most of the minis of his that has been portrayed over the years in WD look like they have been dipped in glue, rolled in his bitsbox and then dunked in random pots of paint.

Making a whole game after that look would be a major error. Tone it down, then the blanche fanstaics can throw glue, bits and paint at the models after that.

 chris_valera wrote:
Then again, Gorkamorka is also the game that nearly bankrupted the company.

Whoa, really? What's that all about? Never heard of such issues with that specific line.

Nosebiter wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Some of the coolest models and conversions of GW's stuff has been done under the influence of Blanche, I mean look at the BFG models, some of the best GW produced (the Imperial and Chaos fleets at least), then here some more stuff inspired by Blanche:
http://spikyratpack.blogspot.com
http://legionofplastic.blogspot.com
http://isstvan.blogspot.com

Yes, but most of the minis of his that has been portrayed over the years in WD look like they have been dipped in glue, rolled in his bitsbox and then dunked in random pots of paint.

Making a whole game after that look would be a major error. Tone it down, then the blanche fanstaics can throw glue, bits and paint at the models after that.

Don't we already have that with the action figure models that are introduced in each new Codex?

Nosebiter wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Some of the coolest models and conversions of GW's stuff has been done under the influence of Blanche, I mean look at the BFG models, some of the best GW produced (the Imperial and Chaos fleets at least), then here some more stuff inspired by Blanche:
http://spikyratpack.blogspot.com
http://legionofplastic.blogspot.com
http://isstvan.blogspot.com

Yes, but most of the minis of his that has been portrayed over the years in WD look like they have been dipped in glue, rolled in his bitsbox and then dunked in random pots of paint.

Making a whole game after that look would be a major error. Tone it down, then the blanche fanstaics can throw glue, bits and paint at the models after that.

You do know Blanche does quite a lot of the concept artwork for the various different ranges, yes? You also know that his position in the company gives him substantial input in almost all the artwork they put out, not just his own stuff, yes? How JB chooses to paint his miniatures has absolutely no bearing at all on whether models based on his art(ie, quite a lot of the models GW makes) will be good or otherwise.

If you dislike Blanche, you dislike 40K, it really is that simple, because his art and input has shaped so much of it and inspired so many others at the company. "Scribblenaughts" can engage in whatever mental gymnastics they feel the need for in order to get around that, but they need to stop pretending the man's work is objectively bad, and they need to stop trying to diminish his role in shaping the universe they are ostensibly fans of, because the way some people behave when this subject comes up is just getting petty.

Hmm, I'm gonna pull out of this discussion before it gets too big. We're here to discuss the possible release of a new cool game, not whether we like Blanche or not. We've already had plenty of Blanche discussions here, and I'm personally not in the mood for another one.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Nosebiter wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
Some of the coolest models and conversions of GW's stuff has been done under the influence of Blanche, I mean look at the BFG models, some of the best GW produced (the Imperial and Chaos fleets at least), then here some more stuff inspired by Blanche:
http://spikyratpack.blogspot.com
http://legionofplastic.blogspot.com
http://isstvan.blogspot.com

Yes, but most of the minis of his that has been portrayed over the years in WD look like they have been dipped in glue, rolled in his bitsbox and then dunked in random pots of paint.

Making a whole game after that look would be a major error. Tone it down, then the blanche fanstaics can throw glue, bits and paint at the models after that.

You do know Blanche does quite a lot of the concept artwork for the various different ranges, yes? You also know that his position in the company gives him substantial input in almost all the artwork they put out, not just his own stuff, yes? How JB chooses to paint his miniatures has absolutely no bearing at all on whether models based on his art(ie, quite a lot of the models GW makes) will be good or otherwise.

If you dislike Blanche, you dislike 40K, it really is that simple, because his art and input has shaped so much of it and inspired so many others at the company. "Scribblenaughts" can engage in whatever mental gymnastics they feel the need for in order to get around that, but they need to stop pretending the man's work is objectively bad, and they need to stop trying to diminish his role in shaping the universe they are ostensibly fans of, because the way some people behave when this subject comes up is just getting petty.

It is not thst simple, nor is it "fact" in any way, no matter how much you claim that it is.

I dislike john blanches art with a vengeance.

I like 40k.

So clearly it is possible.

For everybody asking about Gorkamorka, remember they tooled a lot of new stuff; the Ork vehicles, the wartrakk, and the basic boyz themselves. On top of that people were already weary of the six month games at that time, and few players liked Orks. Remember, little Tommy plays Space Marines, not Orks. Apparently they spent so much, and and made so little (it was given away as a free subscription WD offer) it nearly bankrupted them.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

That's too bad. I only played a couple of times with a friend, but I remember enjoying it a lot.

 chris_valera wrote:
For everybody asking about Gorkamorka, remember they tooled a lot of new stuff; the Ork vehicles, the wartrakk, and the basic boyz themselves. On top of that people were already weary of the six month games at that time, and few players liked Orks. Remember, little Tommy plays Space Marines, not Orks. Apparently they spent so much, and and made so little (it was given away as a free subscription WD offer) it nearly bankrupted them.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Never heard that. Is there an interview or citation somewhere?

The only side effect I saw from Gorkamorka, at least in the gamestores I frequented, was people using hordes of Gorkamorka figures in their 40K ork armies since they looked tougher than the cartoony 2nd edition stuff.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
That's too bad. I only played a couple of times with a friend, but I remember enjoying it a lot.

The Gorkamorka rules are still at the GW website if I recall. Download, grab some boyz and go. I'm playing next weekend! Waaaaaagh!

For everybody asking about Gorkamorka, remember they tooled a lot of new stuff; the Ork vehicles, the wartrakk, and the basic boyz themselves. On top of that people were already weary of the six month games at that time, and few players liked Orks. Remember, little Tommy plays Space Marines, not Orks. Apparently they spent so much, and and made so little (it was given away as a free subscription WD offer) it nearly bankrupted them.

I can't say as I ever even heard anything remotely along those lines, and I was already an old hand at 40K when that game came out. I remember lots of people liking it, tons of White Dwarf and Fanatic magazine material, and lots of Ork players using the stuff in their 40K armies.

Also, a lot of the vehicle material from Gorkamorka was directly from 2nd ed 40K, which I believe was the current edition when it started, though I think the transition to 3rd was starting at the tail end of support for Gorkamorka. All the charts and die rolling was evident in the main game, as well as slow/combat/fast speeds, etc..