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Absolutely loving the new Hive Guard. Their creepy alien support arms are perfect! That gun is likely the rumoured AA gun with increased capacity to ground FMC's.

So why only one leaked pic?

Dammit GW!

 Medium of Death wrote:
So why only one leaked pic?

Dammit GW!

So it's GW's fault the person who got/saw the White Dwarf early isn't showing us more stuff?

We will see them. It won't change anything to see them tomorrow instead of today.

GW gradually releases their own cellphone pics of WD these days to build up hype for new releases. :p

brassangel wrote:So it's GW's fault the person who got/saw the White Dwarf early isn't showing us more stuff?

scarletsquig wrote:GW gradually releases their own cellphone pics of WD these days to build up hype for new releases. :p

There is no leaked WD pic yet, just a pic of a shrink wrapped box.

 Kroothawk wrote:

brassangel wrote:So it's GW's fault the person who got/saw the White Dwarf early isn't showing us more stuff?

scarletsquig wrote:GW gradually releases their own cellphone pics of WD these days to build up hype for new releases. :p

There is no leaked WD pic yet, just a pic of a shrink wrapped box.

Which is something people seem to keep mixing up. It was most likely a sneaky phone shot taken by a warehouse worker or someone else in the supply chain, hence why there was only one photo and no follow ups.

they need to step their rumor game up, yo. where my pics at?

 scarletsquig wrote:
GW gradually releases their own cellphone pics of WD these days to build up hype for new releases. :p

lol

Right?

-Shrike- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

You have no idea what company we are dealing with do you?GAMESWORKSHOP.And to them cheap/decrease=HERESY BLAM!Unless your talking about points.Decrease in points =More being sold.

I believe he meant points, which is very likely, everything gets points reductions on the release of a new dex, how else will gw get you to pay out a little more every time your favourite army is redone :p

Right?

The funny thing is, most players clamor for lower points costs. I haven't figured out why, because it means buying more models (which they will then complain about).

You'd think everyone would be fine if all the armies went the way of Grey Knights or Ogres where there are far fewer models required.

"I want cheaper units (in points), so I can have more models per point, so my army becomes more powerful!"
"What? Games Workshop lowered all of the points? The fething bastards! This is a cheap idea to get us to buy more models!"

Thats just the vocal minority on the internet. Most players would love their units to cost less. Its not like all of us just stop collecting models at 2000 points. I bet there are like two nid players out there that go damn! My nids got cheaper and my 2000 point list is only 1900 points now. I now have to go buy another model to make up the difference!

I have a lot of models I'd love to field and when they reduce the price of some I can squeeze another unit in.

 Davespil wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

You have no idea what company we are dealing with do you?GAMESWORKSHOP.And to them cheap/decrease=HERESY BLAM!Unless your talking about points.Decrease in points =More being sold.

I believe he meant points, which is very likely, everything gets points reductions on the release of a new dex, how else will gw get you to pay out a little more every time your favourite army is redone :p

Right?

The funny thing is, most players clamor for lower points costs. I haven't figured out why, because it means buying more models (which they will then complain about).

You'd think everyone would be fine if all the armies went the way of Grey Knights or Ogres where there are far fewer models required.

"I want cheaper units (in points), so I can have more models per point, so my army becomes more powerful!"
"What? Games Workshop lowered all of the points? The fething bastards! This is a cheap idea to get us to buy more models!"

Thats just the vocal minority on the internet. Most players would love their units to cost less. Its not like all of us just stop collecting models at 2000 points. I bet there are like two nid players out there that go damn! My nids got cheaper and my 2000 point list is only 1900 points now. I now have to go buy another model to make up the difference!

I have a lot of models I'd love to field and when they reduce the price of some I can squeeze another unit in.

If your cheap like me an not thrilled about the idea of adding new models to your army. You can always use the points you save to load up on biomorphs you did not have points for before.

Zookie wrote:

 Davespil wrote:

-Shrike- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:

 Mantle wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

You have no idea what company we are dealing with do you?GAMESWORKSHOP.And to them cheap/decrease=HERESY BLAM!Unless your talking about points.Decrease in points =More being sold.

I believe he meant points, which is very likely, everything gets points reductions on the release of a new dex, how else will gw get you to pay out a little more every time your favourite army is redone :p

Right?

The funny thing is, most players clamor for lower points costs. I haven't figured out why, because it means buying more models (which they will then complain about).

You'd think everyone would be fine if all the armies went the way of Grey Knights or Ogres where there are far fewer models required.

"I want cheaper units (in points), so I can have more models per point, so my army becomes more powerful!"
"What? Games Workshop lowered all of the points? The fething bastards! This is a cheap idea to get us to buy more models!"

Thats just the vocal minority on the internet. Most players would love their units to cost less. Its not like all of us just stop collecting models at 2000 points. I bet there are like two nid players out there that go damn! My nids got cheaper and my 2000 point list is only 1900 points now. I now have to go buy another model to make up the difference!

I have a lot of models I'd love to field and when they reduce the price of some I can squeeze another unit in.

If your cheap like me an not thrilled about the idea of adding new models to your army. You can always use the points you save to load up on biomorphs you did not have points for before.

"You're"

Also don't be cheap while playing Warhammer there are plenty of other games for that !

My CC is ready, my body is ready, make the release date Dec 7th!

Someone at my FLGS posited that Tyranids might have been moved up to December because New Line Cinema was unhappy with the new Hobbit models.

TechMarine1 wrote:
Someone at my FLGS posited that Tyranids might have been moved up to December because New Line Cinema was unhappy with the new Hobbit models.

That's gone around a few places. If that's true, it was probably decided months ago. It could also be that GW is changing their whole "no armies in December" policy. Traditionally they offered more neutral, everybody-gets-something bundles for the holidays, which they still may. The Hobbit just hasn't sold well at all as a miniatures game, so it's possible they want a more profitable turn. One wave of Tyranids would likely outsell what The Hobbit has done in it's entirety.

That and Smaug may have looked goofy at first.

We'll know if the Smaug thing is true if he comes out in December.

Having the pic I think lends credence to the December release. We didn't even get Space Marine leaked pics more than a month out... true it was about one month out, but this pic is a full 7 weeks early for the January release. That hasn't happened since before the rumour lock down. Something to think about I suppose...

Even though the models really aren't that different from the finecast ones, I think they look 100% better. Also glad to see finecast on the way out.

 Cirronimbus wrote:
Having the pic I think lends credence to the December release. We didn't even get Space Marine leaked pics more than a month out... true it was about one month out, but this pic is a full 7 weeks early for the January release. That hasn't happened since before the rumour lock down. Something to think about I suppose...

Even though the models really aren't that different from the finecast ones, I think they look 100% better. Also glad to see finecast on the way out.

Agreed on all points.

 brassangel wrote:
That and Smaug may have looked goofy at first.

Would be the first Hobbit release cancelled because the miniature looked goofy

I actually like the LoTR and Hobbit miniatures, and the rules seem decent. I just think that the issue is thst most people only have time and money to play one or maximum two miniature wargames on a regular basis, and the Hobbit isn't able to compete at all.

Has anyone got a pic of the leaked warriors? Im struggling to locate it :(

page back in the thread, it's been posted a fair amount

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
page back in the thread, it's been posted a fair amount

Pricey's asking about the Warriors, not the hive guard we got a couple days ago

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
page back in the thread, it's been posted a fair amount

Pricey's asking about the Warriors, not the hive guard we got a couple days ago

Ahh my mistake,

Sorry Pricey

 Kroothawk wrote:

 brassangel wrote:
That and Smaug may have looked goofy at first.

Would be the first Hobbit release cancelled because the miniature looked goofy

What are you implying?(OK I admit that boat gollum..)But GW doesn't release the LOTR big bad until the summer(Mumuk/Azog and I'm pretty sure sauron or durins bane was the same.)And Compared to 40k you can't say anything about goofy.No matter how much I love dem orkz are 50 times more goofy then ANYTHING they can make for the hobbit.Hopefully....

The interesting knuckle-hoof on the new plastic hiveguard reminded me of something and I couldn't place it until the discussion of Aliens movies in the OT, it reminds me of the weird arm on the bedridden Ripley hybrid from Resurrection.

 brassangel wrote:

TechMarine1 wrote:
Someone at my FLGS posited that Tyranids might have been moved up to December because New Line Cinema was unhappy with the new Hobbit models.

That's gone around a few places. If that's true, it was probably decided months ago. It could also be that GW is changing their whole "no armies in December" policy. Traditionally they offered more neutral, everybody-gets-something bundles for the holidays, which they still may. The Hobbit just hasn't sold well at all as a miniatures game, so it's possible they want a more profitable turn. One wave of Tyranids would likely outsell what The Hobbit has done in it's entirety.

That and Smaug may have looked goofy at first.

I may be completely wrong about this, but GW's actions generally seem to suggest that they're not 100% all-in with The Hobbit. If they've indeed moved the release of the next Hobbit set out of December, I don't think that's a small deal.

One could blame GW's pricing strategy, but my uninformed, gut impression is that their business managers realized possibly from the getgo that a) the Hobbit movies just aren't the phenomenon that the LOTR trilogy was and b) won't generate that kind of spillover interest.

 gorgon wrote:
I may be completely wrong about this, but GW's actions generally seem to suggest that they're not 100% all-in with The Hobbit. If they've indeed moved the release of the next Hobbit set out of December, I don't think that's a small deal.

There will be no new Hobbit box in December.
Only question is, if there will be Tyranids.

Liking the look of the new Hive Guard. Good to see the new weapon option - skyfire option, anyone?

And I agree about there perhaps being no Hobbit box in December. The next Hobbit film's not out until the 13th and I doubt New Line will let GW show anything that could reveal anything about the new film before its release, including models and even pics in WD. I think that's too short of a window for GW to make decent Christmas sales. I don't think they'd like the fact that they'd have nothing new to sell in two of the busiest trading weeks of the year either.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
I may be completely wrong about this, but GW's actions generally seem to suggest that they're not 100% all-in with The Hobbit. If they've indeed moved the release of the next Hobbit set out of December, I don't think that's a small deal.

There will be no new Hobbit box in December.
Only question is, if there will be Tyranids.

THEY HAVE NO CHOICE THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH NEW LINE.They are making the box.Where did this rumor come from anyway?

Firstly, it is rude to shout. Far more polite to use italics for emphasis.

Secondly, pray tell how are you privy to the terms of their contract with New Line?

Da krimson barun wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
I may be completely wrong about this, but GW's actions generally seem to suggest that they're not 100% all-in with The Hobbit. If they've indeed moved the release of the next Hobbit set out of December, I don't think that's a small deal.

There will be no new Hobbit box in December.
Only question is, if there will be Tyranids.

THEY HAVE NO CHOICE THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH NEW LINE.They are making the box.Where did this rumor come from anyway?

They do have a contract, but the people in charge of the terms of said contract may have been displeased with the rumored Smaug model, and/or want to rethink a little strategy to better turn a profit. It will get released, just maybe not in December.