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This might actually be a good foundation for skirmish gaming in the WFB universe. Put models on bases roughly the size of their pogs and do measurements in converted base width. Base contact = pinning by flipping.

Combine that with single figure ebay sellers and there could be the potential for a revival of Warhammer Skirmish here.

Unless FFG goes all collectible or something.

I don't think a lot of you guys are the market they're aiming for.

It's a tabletop wargame without the miniatures and all that gets involved in that regard. If you post on Dakka, a gateway skirmish/ board game isn't exactly going to sway you into picking up yet another army to collect.

The best thing though- there's no $75 rule books to say the least!

I like the idea of punch out scenery. Can't remember if that was in the original release.

One cool thing I liked about the collectible random nature of it was even when you bought an army set (which was somewhat static), they gave you a few random sheets of units as well- use them as allies, use them as adversaries, swap them with someone else... that was a nice touch.

Of course I think I literally paid pennies and nickels for a bunch of my sets, so I was quite content with my purchases. I don't think I would have paid whatever the suggested retail price was for the original game. I probably won't for this eitehr unless they give me a pile of units for a reasonable price. I've already got a fair amount of WHFB guys laying around.

Plus they did just show off their new Terrinoth- ified BattleLore game...

i literally have no interest in this. man.

Hey, I'm not the one asking to play

We're on the same page here; just posting for Dakka's benefit.


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 judgedoug wrote:
i literally have no interest in this.

Also, for me -- it's actually a matter of negative interest. The WHF setting element is +10 but the Diskwar element is -100. I feel vaguely nauseated whenever I think of pogs or poggish games.

Diskwars is entirely not a pog game. The original's only "derp" element was ranged combat.... but otherwise is was very much a cheap, distilation of table-top miniature gaming.

I'll absolutely buy a pile of these when they come out, and supposedly they're using their LCG model for monthly new units, factions, etc... which I think will be a fun, cheaper, game to drop on the table when people in my circle want some slightly lightly fare.

Other than ranged combat, I don't get the pog reference.

I'm assuming it's just because of the shape?

I'm wondering if it's some kind of survivor's guilt that's kicking in here. All you guys had to put your pogs out to pasture way back when and the psychological guilt is gnawing at you.

I remember being in Hawaii as a kid around the time pogs were starting to become a thing, and I could find them nowhere on the island.

Well, and the ranged combat, the one "gamey" thing from the old game is GONE in this new addition.

I can see folks not feeling the lust for this game, but if FFG does one thing well, they make awesome "gateway drug" games.

X-wing and Dust, have helped me get a lot of folks into TTG. If anything, this will usurp them both.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'm assuming it's just because of the shape?

Also the material. The original Diskwars used the exact same style of card and printing as the US mass release Pogs. They were even the same size.

warhammer Pogs..er diskwars...

Next up for 40k..


Galaxy Globes...pit planets and nebulas against each other using the new "Gravity Combat system", watch as your favorites from the 40k setting smash and knock each other into the Eye of terror..

Again: This is basically a simple tabletop game with counters instead of models. No more outlandish than things like Battle for Westeros or Summoner Wars, to name two rather entertaining examples. This has about as much in common with POGs as plastic bases for 40k models do: they're round.

I think it might be a nice and inexpensive entry game for people who are on the fence about tabletop gaming in general. Or people who don't want to paint models.

So it's like Battleground, except with a ridiculous pog flipping mechanic.

What's the MSRP for those Galaxy Globes? How many do I get in a package? I'm worried about the cost if I want to run a Tyranid controlled sector.

In fact will 'nids be in the base game or will I need to purchase a separate codex for them at some unspecified point in time.

I'd like to know more.



And continuing the pog theme- I knew pogs had hit the mainstream when my aunt dressed up as a power ranger to pass them out at her dojo many moons ago. She rarely wanted to ever admit to doing that. I was there though. I have proof somewhere.

 judgedoug wrote:
So it's like Battleground, except with a ridiculous pog flipping mechanic.

No... because THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POGS.

Disk wars was one of the main things that got me into table top gaming. It is not the same as Fantasy but if I can use it to get people immersed in the warhammer world and slowly convert them to a proper fantasy army then I am super excited about it.

It seems to meet somewhere between Warhammer: Invasion and Warhammer Fantasy. I can almost guarantee picking up the starter set, depending on price. If its the standard $40 from FFG, I'll buy it definitely. If it's more, I'll have to see more. But I'm cautiously optimistic about what I've seen so far.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
So it's like Battleground, except with a ridiculous pog flipping mechanic.

No... because THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POGS.

So it's Battleground, except with a ridiculous flipping mechanic, that has the "Warhammer" logo on it.

 judgedoug wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
So it's like Battleground, except with a ridiculous pog flipping mechanic.

No... because THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POGS.

So it's Battleground, except with a ridiculous flipping mechanic, that has the "Warhammer" logo on it.

(Exasperated) No: the flipping mechanism is no less ridiculous than measuring movement rates wirh a tape. Might be even less prone to cheating. (I hear in a competitive environment incorrect measuring might actually be an issue) A disc's diameter is simply used as a measure for movement. Not really complicated; it's actually somewhat elegant if you're not actively obtuse about it. At least you don't have to use a grid that way.

Wow, every second or third post in this thread is hugely snobbish for a bunch of guys who play with hand-painted, super expensive plastic army men.

(as I missed the above post) Even the flipping mechanic is only something that replaces using a ruler to be a "unique mechanic". If the "flipping mechanic" is the killer for you, make yourself a special ruler that measures ranges in units that are each the same as a disk's base diameter, and you now have a skirmish game that instead of miniatures uses flat, printed tokens with each unit's values for quick referencing.

Holy cow, guys. (facepalm)

Tons of people loved Heroes of Normandie, and the kickstarter made tons of money, and it's a game in the same strain as Diskwars, just with a grid and square "pogs". The sci-fi game Frontiers, which is incidently what Heroes is extrapolated upon, even had everything using circular/oval pogs as units, and the game is incredibly fun.



It's solidly demonstrated that the only two janky things (ranged combat, and collectibility) from Diskwars were completely eliminated. Sweet.

I'll be honest here. Some people might deride this game for being a silly pathetic bunch of flip disks. But from the perspective of those who aren't into collectible mini-figures, it's the people who pay hundreds of dollars for a bunch of miniatures and then spend hours upon hours of painting them so they can play a game where each player needs a friggin' huge (and expensive) rulebook by their side for each and every army they play and a single turn can take half an hour of rolling dice and measuring distances that looks just a bit... off.

The cool thing is that these types of games are great, pretty cheap filler for in-between the times of game nights using actual miniatures games.

It's just a measuring mechanic, and like said before, one that's actually really hard to cheat with. People love Mercs for it's sweet miniatures, and the range and movement measurements in the game are all made using the unit's stat cards.

Incidentally, the only reason Heroes of Normandie didn't do better still was its price... whereas Diskwars was CHEAP to build mass armies.

Even as a random booster kinda game, at online prices, I amassed 1000+ disks, for under $90, back in the day. I think my total expenses where in the realm of $150 EVER, for 2000-ish disks.

FFG looks to be keeping that trend up, as online shops already have the new WH set for around $27... and the LCG route implies you'll get 20-30 new disks for about $7.00, if they keep the old volume of flats-per-booster, model.

 Bomster wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
So it's like Battleground, except with a ridiculous pog flipping mechanic.

No... because THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POGS.

So it's Battleground, except with a ridiculous flipping mechanic, that has the "Warhammer" logo on it.

(Exasperated) No

So it's Battleground that has the "Warhammer" logo on it.

We ALL know how successful both Diskwars and Battleground were!

We ALL know how much Fantasy Flight Games continues to support product with the "Warhammer" logo on it (last major Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay release was when? how long did it take for them to reprint the dice?)

I predict failure and dropping support within one year.

Just who is the target market anyway? You say it's not pogs, it's not a ridiculous flipping mechanic - so it's a nerdy game that is sold in specialty nerd shops with the Warhammer name. So Warhammer players will know it - but why would they but it? They already play with their armies of toy soldiers. So then who else will buy it? To an average person walking into a specialty nerd shop? Then the Warhammer IP is meaningless... how would it look, to the target demographic, any different and why would it have any more success than it already DIDN'T have in Diskwars and - especially - in Battleground? Battleground, fantasy wargame using 2d cards vs Warhammer Disk Wars fantasy wargame using 2d circles. Because circles are somehow cooler to Joe Consumer than rectangles?

Even though I have no interest, I'll pick this up next summer when it's in the clearance racks for 5 bucks to have a laugh with my gaming group about it.

 judgedoug wrote:
how long did it take for them to reprint the dice?

They are still not available, btw.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Other than ranged combat, I don't get the pog reference.

I'm assuming it's just because of the shape?

I'm wondering if it's some kind of survivor's guilt that's kicking in here. All you guys had to put your pogs out to pasture way back when and the psychological guilt is gnawing at you.

I remember being in Hawaii as a kid around the time pogs were starting to become a thing, and I could find them nowhere on the island.

Eh, POGs were more my sister's age-group than mine. So anybody older than 31 and younger than 28 or so wouldn't care about them.

I seem to remember every Diskwars game had something that was "This game would be awesome BUT...". For the Star Trek one it was that photon torpedoes were ridiculously overpowered and moving them took forever.

Being a Diskwars fan, I suppose I should be used to this... but every time I see someone compare it to Pogs... I want to throw up a little.

I expect better of people in our hobby, who tend to be good, informed, consumers, and give stuff a chance based on its merits.

Funny, I was thinking about Warhammer as a diskwars game just this last weekend.

And it's not like the game needs continued support, and it's probably better if they just put out enough content for the existing Fantasy armies and then move on. What's wrong with a one-off game? Why DOES it need continued support?

Stormonu wrote:
Funny, I was thinking about Warhammer as a diskwars game just this last weekend.

And it's not like the game needs continued support, and it's probably better if they just put out enough content for the existing Fantasy armies and then move on. What's wrong with a one-off game? Why DOES it need continued support?

Well it probably won't NEED it... but it would benefit from it. If anything, table-top wargames usually benefit from the players having as many roughly balanced options as possible. List building usually lets you express your style, etc... as a player, and works best when I might field something few others would, etc...

The original Diskwars is definitely a better game wish its expansions than not. (Well except Broken Shadows, which was aptly named as it had some crazy OP units).

Relax guys, you don't have to buy it.


The close combat and ranged attacks are all stat and dice based, and there is a very basic ruller thing.
also it's not a collectable game,
Expansions will likely be entire armies.

I forgot it existed until this thread was necro'ed.