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Fixture of Dakka





San Jose, CA

Recently, I went to the ATC in Tennessee. The ATC is a 2K Team tournament consisting of 5-man teams, playing 6-games each over the course of 2 days. And this year, there were 34 teams participating in the ATC....that's 170 players! The rules for the ATC is quite simple. In a nutshell, no one can bring the same Primary armies or the same Allied armies. Thus, you cannot take Necrons allied with Eldar and Necrons allied with Tau. You also can't take Eldar allied with Necrons nor can you take Tau allied with Necrons.

ATC scenarios use all 3 missions at the same time - Purge the Alien, Emperor's Will and Crusade (always with 5 objectives). What changes is the deploment type and whether Fast Attack or Heavy Support choices are scoring/worth extra VP's. We also played with Secondary objectives - First Blood, Slay the Warlord and Linebreaker. Each of the 3 Primary objectives are worth 8-pts each and each of the Secondaries worth 2-pts each, for a total of 30-pts per game. In the case of a tie (i.e. either both parties get Warlord or neither one does), then each person gets half points. Overall, the sum of both person's scores always add up to 30-pts.

Now a little background on our team. This year, our team - Team Fluffy Bunnies - consisted of 2 returning veterans - Mike and Brandon - along with 3 new players - Kevin (aka Janthkin), Bill (aka Centurion99) and Jim (that' me!, aka jy2). Mike and Brandon were actually the runner-ups to last year's 2-time defending champions, Wrecking BLOS. However, this year, they lost 3 of their teammates, one of whom was Greg Sparks (who opted to be the Captain of Team USA this year at the ETC). Now how did we all meet? The common bond that united the 4 of them (I was the odd-man out) was Adepticon. They all knew each other from Adepticon. It was there where they started talking and decided to form a team for the ATC. They were still short 1 player, however. That's when Kevin, a good friend of mine, recommended me to the team. From there, it became history.

I will talk more about the ATC team concept later, but first, let me introduce the armies.


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2000 Jy2's "Draicronic Measures" Grey Knights + Necrons


I was debating over bringing pure necrons - my Wraithwing Tesla-crons - or my Draicronic Measures NecroKnights. In the end, I decided to bring my NecroKnights primarily because 1) I wanted to see if I could get my grey knights to work in 6th Ed. competitive play, 2) I wanted to try something new (I've only ever played my NecroKnights once before) and 3) they were much easier to transport than my 18 wraiths necron army.


Primary:

Coteaz
Draigo

10x Paladins - 4x Psycannons, Apothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 5x Hammers
1x Soladin - Hammer

"Psyfleman" Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
"Psyfleman" Dreadnought - 2x TL-Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo

Allies:

Necron Overlord - 2+, Mindshackle Scarabs, Warscythe

5x Warriors - Night Scythe
5x Warriors - Night Scythe

Annihilation Barge


2000 Hive Fleet Janthkin


This is basically a slightly modified variant of Kevin's normal tyranid army. Kevin has been on a roll lately, winning one of our local RTT's as well as AnimeCon GT (though it was with his Daemons+CSM army) coming into this tournament.


Swarmlord
Flyrant - Wings, 2x TL-Devourers

Doom of Ma'lantai - Mycetic Spore
3x Hive Guards
8x Ymgarl Genestealers

Tervigon - Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, 3x Psychic Powers, Crushing Claws
10x Termagants
Tervigon - Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, 3x Psychic Powers, Scything Talons
10x Termagants

17x Gargoyles - Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs
16x Gargoyles - Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs

Mawloc - Toxin Sacs


2000 Bill's Daemons


Bill was our Team Captain. He was also a 2-time winner of Adepticon and won a 5th Ed. major GT (can't remember which was it) with his daemons back before the White Dwarf flamer/screamer updates. So yeah, he is a very, very good player. For the tournament, he brought a very brutal, primarily Slaanesh FMC-spam daemon list.


Fateweaver
Keeper of Secrets - Psyker Lvl 3, 1x Exalted Reward, 1x Greater Reward

11x Pink Horrors - 1x Sergeant
11x Pink Horrors

9x Screamers

Daemon Prince - 3+, Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Psyker Lvl 3, 1x Exalted Reward, 1x Greater Reward
Daemon Prince - 3+, Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Psyker Lvl 3, 2x Greater Rewards
Daemon Prince - 3+, Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Psyker Lvl 3, 2x Greater Rewards


2000 Mike's Space Wolves


Mike is a veteran tournament 40K player who has been playing for about a decade now. He brought a foot-based, missile-spam Space Wolves. And in case you weren't counting, that 30 S8 shots!!!


Logan Grimnar
Rune Priest - Jaws, Living Lightning

10x Wolf Guards - 2x w/Terminator Armour + Chainfist + Cyclone Missile Launchers
10x Wolf Guards - 1x w/Terminator Armour + Chainfist + Cyclone Missile Launcher, 1x w/Terminator Armour, Power Axe, Meltabombs + Cyclone Missile Launcher, 6x Combi-plasmas, 2x Combi-meltas, Drop Pod
5x Wolf Guards - 1x w/Terminator Armour, Power Axe + Cyclone Missile Launcher
5x Wolf Guards - 1x w/Terminator Armour, Power Axe + Cyclone Missile Launcher
10x Grey Hunters - 1x Flamer, 1x Meltagun, Wolf Standard
5x Grey Hunters - 1x Flamer

6x Long Fangs - 5x Multi-meltas, Drop Pod
6x Long Fangs - 5x Missile Launchers
6x Long Fangs - 5x Missile Launchers


2000 Brandon's Eldar + Tau


Brandon is the "Youngblood" in the group. You can tell by his army as he brought the 2 newest armies, the dreaded Eldau!


Primary:

Tau Commander - All the bells and whistles, You name it, he's got it....except for any guns

Riptide - Ion Accelerator, SMS, Early Warning Override
Riptide - Ion Accelerator, SMS, Early Warning Override

6x Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/SMS
6x Fire Warriors - Devilfish w/SMS
6x Fire Warriors

5x Piranhas - Burst Cannons, 1x w/Sensor Spines

3x Broadsides - All w/HYMP + Early Warning Override, 4x Missile Drones
Skyray - Blacksun Filter

Allies:

Farseer - Jetbike

3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes

8x Dark Reapers - Starshot


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Battle Report Links:


Tournament Army Photos


ATC Format/Team Strategy/Army Analysis


Game #1 vs Team TASACDWS


Game #2 vs Tag Team Uranus


Game #3 vs Four Horseman and a Monkey


Game #4 vs Endless Gaming


Game #5 vs Wrecking BOLS


Game #6 vs Quality Control + Tournament Results


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Wow! Those are some awesome armies. Can't wait to see how you all did.

I have no idea what I'm doing...

Raginmund, Jarl of Sepp 
   
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The clue is in his sig as to how they did

Looking forward to these reports.

What does surprise me about this event is that it clashes with and isn't in line with the ETC. fair enough it's an independent event but the benefits for team merica could be huge.
   
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djn wrote:
The clue is in his sig as to how they did

Looking forward to these reports.

What does surprise me about this event is that it clashes with and isn't in line with the ETC. fair enough it's an independent event but the benefits for team merica could be huge.


I noticed after I had already posted, just to lazy to edit my comment.

EDIT: Ugh typing is hard

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I have no idea what I'm doing...

Raginmund, Jarl of Sepp 
   
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San Jose, CA

However, what you could do is to bring Eldar allied with Tau and Tau allied with Eldar.
Actually, this was specifically disallowed.

Three primary army composition rules:
1) You may not repeat primary detachments;
2) You may not repeat allied detachments; and
3) You may not repeat any particular combination of detachments.

Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? 
   
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San Jose, CA

First off, some pictures of the many armies that were there.

I'll start off with the most prevalent armies:


Eldar/Tau:

Spoiler:

Yes, it was riptide/wraithknight city - lots and lots of them.


Iyanden Mechdar.


Here's a very similar list to my own Double-Trouble Mechdar army.


I think they call this "Pulse-bomb Tau".


Venom-spam with Eldar allies.


Semi-mech Tau with dual riptides and dual missile-sides.


Eldar biker army.


Darkwynn's beautiful Eldar.



A beautiful Eldar/Tau army. He also had a wraithknight in there.


Another Tau/Eldar combo. This may have been the most prevalent combo at the ATC and with good reason. They are just plain nasty together.



2 wraithknights from one of our opponents. I believe it was one of Janthkin's opponents.


Triptide with a wraithknight! One of our opponents.


Have you had enough of the wraithknights yet? Crouching wraithknight, Hidden arm wraithknight....those guys are fully posable!




Chaos:

Spoiler:




Here's a Daemon + CSM army with some nice conversions. I especially like that helspider conversion.


Wow....a CSM army with only 1 heldrake and 1 FMC. I think I am still recovering from the shock....



Here's a pretty cool CSM army. I especially like his wraith/chaos spawn conversions.


Awesome Daemon+CSM FMC-spam army from Next Level Painting's Kenny Boucher.


Triple-turkey, triple-maulerfiend CSM+Daemon army.


Chaos army in utter chaos!



Rainbow daemons. I especially love the maulerfiend conversion, using the WHFB Slaughterbrute kit from the Warriors of Chaos line. I myself are running 2 of these as maulerfiends in my CSM army.

And for some bonus points, his army actually matches his pants!




Marine Armies:

Spoiler:


An Adeptus Arbites Grey Knight conversion army. Very cool.


Blood Angels MSU mech-spam.


I believe Dark Angels with the Banner of Devastation, perhaps?


Fortunately, they weren't GK stormravens, but definitely an army I wanted no part of.


Wow! That's a lot of frigging drop pods.


Pure grey knights.


Marines with Tau. Actually, it looks like Tau with Marines.


Triple-raven Grey Knights! Another list I wouldn't want to play against. Those mindstrikes will f*ck up my paladins real quick!


Salamanders with a little of everything - dreads, drop pods and flyers.


Last but not least, more Grey Knights!




Imperial Guards:

Spoiler:


One of many IG armies. Melta/plasma-vets mechguard!


IG with some allied Daemons.



Paul Murphy's beautiful IG + Space Wolves army. Good news guys....you're going to get a better look at his beautiful army because he is one of my opponents.



Another superb IG army....with CSM allies.


Wow. These IG display boards are amazing. And so are the armies.



And finally, we have the....


Xenos Armies:

Spoiler:


Necron flyer-spam was fairly common at the ATC.


Here's an interesting combo - Necrons + Tau.


Necrons + Chaos....another winning combo.


Here's a really cool necron flyer conversion....probably done before the actual necron flyers came out.


One of the few tyranid armies around....nidzilla with 7 monstrous creatures!


The antithesis of my army...Necrons + Draigowing! Mine was Draigowing + Necrons. I could have actually gone up against this army in a mirror match. Instead, Janthkin went up against it.


Tim Gorham's tournament winning Wraithwing Tesla-crons. He won Best Necrons with it at the ATC. It is basically the same list as my own Wraithwing Tesla-crons which I was originally planning to bring.





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 Janthkin wrote:
However, what you could do is to bring Eldar allied with Tau and Tau allied with Eldar.
Actually, this was specifically disallowed.

Three primary army composition rules:
1) You may not repeat primary detachments;
2) You may not repeat allied detachments; and
3) You may not repeat any particular combination of detachments.

Well, then....some people didn't read the rules.

But personally, I wouldn't care if I faced such an army. Just give me someone to beat silly.




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I bet it got pretty annoying playing against the same types of armies over and over.

I have no idea what I'm doing...

Raginmund, Jarl of Sepp 
   
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San Jose, CA

 VeteranSgt.Ryokai wrote:
I bet it got pretty annoying playing against the same types of armies over and over.

Personally, I had no problems. There was enough variety in my opponent's lists that each presented a different challenge.

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Jy2's 6th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links.....Jy2's 7th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links
 
   
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Focused Fire Warrior





In the "Pulse-bomb Tau", any idea what the bike looking guys were used as?

From zooming in, it looks like they might be counts as Eldar Jet bikes, with an counts as Eldar HQ hiding in that ruin. Last I checked Ethereals can't shoot lightning from their fingertips.

Well I think I answered my own question. Can't wait to read the reports! Beautiful armies!

Successful Trades: 2
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San Jose, CA

Yeah, I guess they were Eldar ally conversions. That's some pretty sweet bikes there. Looks very Star Wars-ish.



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ATC 2013 - Team Fluffy Bunnies - 1st .....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals
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4TheG8erGood wrote:
In the "Pulse-bomb Tau", any idea what the bike looking guys were used as?

From zooming in, it looks like they might be counts as Eldar Jet bikes, with an counts as Eldar HQ hiding in that ruin. Last I checked Ethereals can't shoot lightning from their fingertips.

Well I think I answered my own question. Can't wait to read the reports! Beautiful armies!


They were Eldar jetbikes. The Farseer was a drone thing. If you scroll to the bottom here, I snapped some close up pictures of them.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2013/08/16/guest-editorial-by-anonymou5-fateweaver-versus-the-world-or-a-way-to-fight-tau-a-tournament-vignette/

They were awesome

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San Jose, CA

Hey Rob,

Great to meet you at the ATC. Too bad our teams didn't get to play. Maybe next time.

BTW, great article. Fateweaver FTW!



6th Edition Tournaments: Golden Throne GT 2012 - 1st .....Bay Area Open GT 2013 - Best Tyranids
ATC 2013 - Team Fluffy Bunnies - 1st .....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals
7th Edition: 2015-16 ITC Best Grey Knights, 2015-16 ITC Best Tyranids
Jy2's 6th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links.....Jy2's 7th Edition Battle Report Thread - Links
 
   
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 jy2 wrote:
Hey Rob,

Great to meet you at the ATC. Too bad our teams didn't get to play. Maybe next time.

BTW, great article. Fateweaver FTW!



You and Goatboy are dead set on ruining my carefully maintained secret identity! Haha

Good to meet you too man. Maybe at Feast we'll play (assuming I can get the Army to let me go)

Can't wait for the rest of the batreps. Which Army did you play from QC and BOLS?

Edit: and yeah, Fateweaver is almost always my MVP.

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San Jose, CA


anonymou5 wrote:
 jy2 wrote:
Hey Rob,

Great to meet you at the ATC. Too bad our teams didn't get to play. Maybe next time.

BTW, great article. Fateweaver FTW!



You and Goatboy are dead set on ruining my carefully maintained secret identity! Haha

Good to meet you too man. Maybe at Feast we'll play (assuming I can get the Army to let me go)

Can't wait for the rest of the batreps. Which Army did you play from QC and BOLS?

Edit: and yeah, Fateweaver is almost always my MVP.

I played against Paul Murphy of BOLS and Eric Hoerger of QC. Both great players and more importantly, great guys.


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7th Edition: 2015-16 ITC Best Grey Knights, 2015-16 ITC Best Tyranids
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anonymou5 wrote:
4TheG8erGood wrote:
In the "Pulse-bomb Tau", any idea what the bike looking guys were used as?

From zooming in, it looks like they might be counts as Eldar Jet bikes, with an counts as Eldar HQ hiding in that ruin. Last I checked Ethereals can't shoot lightning from their fingertips.

Well I think I answered my own question. Can't wait to read the reports! Beautiful armies!


They were Eldar jetbikes. The Farseer was a drone thing. If you scroll to the bottom here, I snapped some close up pictures of them.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2013/08/16/guest-editorial-by-anonymou5-fateweaver-versus-the-world-or-a-way-to-fight-tau-a-tournament-vignette/

They were awesome


Those do look awesome! Nice battle report as well, it was a good read!

Successful Trades: 2
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San Jose, CA

So that's all the army pics that I took at the ATC. Coming up later, ATC tactics and my Army Analysis.


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You can see the edge of my Army in the photo of the 4 Storm Ravens. So close to getting my puppy conversions in a JY2 thread! Almost famous.

That 4 Raven build may be the subject of my next rambling on FLG, we designed it as our anti-Daemon Army, but when our team fell apart we ended up throwing it against nearly everything, and it did shockingly well. It actually beat Eric Hoager from QC, which I didn't see coming at all. I played Kurt Clauss from QC, which was a super fun game (that I may bat rep, just because we both pulled some crazy dirty tricks on each other). I played Thomas from BOLS, which I won't batrep because he beat me pretty badly, haha. Don't want to shame myself. Besides, a batrep of 7 turns of our Daemon Princes flying in circles around each other is pretty lame...




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4TheG8erGood wrote:
anonymou5 wrote:
4TheG8erGood wrote:
In the "Pulse-bomb Tau", any idea what the bike looking guys were used as?

From zooming in, it looks like they might be counts as Eldar Jet bikes, with an counts as Eldar HQ hiding in that ruin. Last I checked Ethereals can't shoot lightning from their fingertips.

Well I think I answered my own question. Can't wait to read the reports! Beautiful armies!


They were Eldar jetbikes. The Farseer was a drone thing. If you scroll to the bottom here, I snapped some close up pictures of them.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2013/08/16/guest-editorial-by-anonymou5-fateweaver-versus-the-world-or-a-way-to-fight-tau-a-tournament-vignette/

They were awesome


Those do look awesome! Nice battle report as well, it was a good read!


Thanks! Appreciate it.

Edit: Wow, Paul Murphy's Army is amazing! I can't wait to see more pics of it.

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that's my pink chaos army. 2 squads of NM and 2 CSM, 3 havoc squads and 2 turkeys. It was cool to meet all you guys. It was a really fun event and I can't wait to do it again next year. Congrats on the win.

Good trades: 8!!


 
   
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Thanks for taking all these pics. I love seeing all these armies.

8th Grand Company (Iron Warriors 8,000pts): 36-11-2
Antiocan Forgeborn (Traitor IG 3,000pts): 11-4-2
Heavy Rain Cadre (Tau 4,000pts): 9-3-0
Hive Fleet Lunulata (Tyranids 2,000pts): 6-4-0
/ G.L.O. Genestealer Cult (IG/Tyranids 2,000pts): 0-2-0
[Stats current as of 9/8/13]

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I can't wait to see more of Paul Murphy's army! If I had that level of talent in building miniatures, I'd almost be tempted to play with IG flyers!

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 Talore wrote:
I can't wait to see more of Paul Murphy's army! If I had that level of talent in building miniatures, I'd almost be tempted to play with IG flyers!


Go to GMMstudios.com he painted it and ha close up shots on his blog.

Congrats jy2 and fluff bunnies!

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Justin from team Quality Control here. It is great to see all of these pics from the ATC. It was awesome to meet you in person and play the Fluffy Bunnies for all the marbles!

I'll be on the lookout for your ATC bat reps. Thanks for the photographic chronicle of a really fun event!

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San Jose, CA

The ATC Format:

This is how the ATC works....in slightly more detail than my intro. It is a team versus team tournament. Sure, we play individual games, but in the end you add up all the scores of the indiviual players to get the Team score.

The ATC uses all 3 Primary mission objectives at the same time: Victory Points, Emperor's Will and 5 Crusade objectives. Each Primary objective is worth 8-pts, or 4-pts in the case of a draw. The ATC also uses 3 Secondary objectives: First Blood, Slay the Warlord and Linebreaker. Each Secondary objective is worth 2-pts each, or 1-pt in the case of a draw (i.e. either both parties get Warlord or neither does, etc.). The sum of both player's scores = 30-pts. Thus, if the team is perfect, then it can get a maximum of 150-pts each round.

There are variations. Two of the matches includes the following: Night-fight + Mysterious Objectives. Two of the matches including scoring Fast Attacks who are also worth VP's if killed and two of the matches including scoring Heavy Supports, also worth VP's if killed. Deployment alternate between Dawn of War and Vanguard Strike. They did not include Hammer & Anvil deployment due to logistics reasons.

The Team Captain rolls off to see who goes first. Whoever wins can choose whether to go 1st or 2nd. The team that goes 1st puts out one of their armies first. The opposing team can then decide which of their armies to matchup with the 1st army. Then for the 2nd match, the team that goes 2nd has to put out 1 of their armies and the 1st team then decides which of their armies to put up against that army. Both teams then continue alternating matchups until everyone has an opponent. BTW, whoever puts out their armies gets to choose the terrain. To summarize it goes like this:

1: Team A offers a defender, Team B chooses an attacker, Team A picks a table.
2: Team B offers a defender, Team A chooses an attacker, Team B picks a table.
3: Team A offers a defender, Team B chooses an attacker, Team A picks a table.
4: Team B offers a defender, Team A chooses an attacker, Team B picks a table.
5: Remaining players play on the remaining table.


The Team Strategy:

We have 3 main types of armies in team format. The 1st is the Attacker. This is the type of army that will get you the Battle Points you need. It usually isn't very balanced, but if you put it up against the right matchup, you can potentially table your opponent. An example of an Attacker army is FMC daemons. With the right matchups, more often than not, you can table your opponents. The Attacker is more matchup dependent than the other armies and will be the army you use to net you the most Battle Points. This is also not the army you want to offer up to your opponent. Rather, you want to take advantage of army matchups with this type of list.

We then have the Defender army. The Defender army is the one that you offer up for the opponent to matchup against. Defender armies tend to be more durable and able to take a hit. While you can potentially play them offensively as well, most Defender armies are built more to win slightly than to win big. Usually, you are not looking to table your opponent with this type of army, but just to win, even if slightly. I actually view my Draigowing as more of a Defender army, though I can also use it as an Attacker army.

Finally, you have your "Sacrificial" army. This is usually the very 1st army you put up. The main strategy for this army is to survive. Such armies will usually take the worst of the matchups as it is usually offered up as the very 1st army for your opponent to matchup against. The key to the Sacrificial army is survivability. You need a very durable army to survive a wide range of threats. Examples of a sacrificial army include tervigon-spam tyranids, double-blob squad IG or Typhus-zombie CSM list. I also consider my Draigowing to be a sacrificial army as well. I can easily take almost any type of offense out there and not only survive, but I think I can still win as well.

In any case, it's going to be all about the matchups. If you're running tyranids and your opponents have a venom-spam Dark Eldar army in their team, then you certainly don't want to offer up your bugs as a Defender army. The chances are great that your opponents will send their DE player against your nids. Likewise, if your opponent puts up Tau with lots of skyfire/interceptor, you really don't want to send your Necron Air-force up against them. In the team format, you can avoid these types of matchups.

Finally, it may be important regarding picking the terrain. That is definitely something you want to take into consideration. You don't really want to use your tyranids as an Attacker army against Tau, only to have your opponent pick a table without any LOS-blocking terrain. Likewise, you don't want to take an IG Attacker army against daemons who are Defenders, only to have the daemons pick a table with a huge LOS-blocking terrain that basically negates your shooting (except for the barrages). So not only do you need to take into consideration the matchups, but you also have to take into account the terrain. So the team that offers up the Defending army has the disadvantage of possibly having to face a tough Attacking army, but he also has the advantage of being able to pick the terrain that may give him the most advantage.


(My) Army Analysis:

So where does my Draicronic Measures NecroKnights rank in the overall team scheme? I believe my army is a great Defender army. It's got mega-resiliency with FNP 2W terminators that can survive any alpha-strike you throw at them. If necessary, I will reserve my weaker units to protect them from the enemy. And if there's any unit that can sit on an objective (or multiple objectives), that would be my paladinstar. Try shifting them off of their objectives. Go ahead....I dare you.

My army can also be an Attacker army if necessary. Sure it's somewhat slow, but not many armies can stop paladins who are advancing. The smarter play would be to just get away from them. With troops in flyers and the potential to make my 2 dreadnoughts scoring via Grand Strategy, I can have up to 5 units take objectives while my paladins go and kill stuff as well as to contest enemy objectives.

Finally, my NecroKnights can also be used as a sacrificial army. I doubt most armies will be able to take out my deathstar, especially if I decide to play defensive with them. Spread out against blast-heavy armies, hide behind LOS-blocking terrain against the more shooty armies and dare the assault armies to go up against me head-on. If anything, my army was built to survive. The addition of the Apothecary has made them immeasurably more survivable, and Coteaz gives me a chance at getting Forewarning or Precognition to make the unit much more survivable. There are still some bad matchups against my army, but overall, I think my army probably has the best chance of surviving the opposition.

Originally, I was concerned about scoring in my army....which was why I decided to make Grey Knights my Primary army. Grand Strategy then gives me potentially 2 additional scoring units with my 2 dreadnoughts. While fragile, I can make them slightly more survivable by putting them in reserves. Then with Psychic Communion, I can have them come in on Turn 2 on a 2+ to beta-strike enemy vehicles/flyers. Thus, my strategy will be to put my more vulnerable, scoring units in Reserves and to hide the other units to deny my opponent easy VP's. I will be relying on this strategy of denial for practically the entire tournament.

I have 2 guys who are going to make a huge difference. The first is Coteaz. He is just such a great force-multiplier with his psychic powers, his deepstrike defense and his ability to affect the Seize rolls. More importantly, he will be my Warlord, thus allowing me to play Draigo much more aggressively. The second guy is my secret weapon. He may not look like much, but I am telling you that he will be a potential game-winner for me....my Necron Overlord. You will see.

As with any deathstar lists, I have exploitable weaknesses. It is because of this that I don't expect to be a great Attacker (that would be my MTO Wraithwing Tesla-crons). Instead, I think my army would make for a great Defending army who can and should net decent Battle Points. The way to play against most deathstar list would be to ignore the deathstar and to go after the supporting units. My list is no exception, which is why I am relying on my strategy of Denial through Reserves. Don't give my opponents much choice in target by reserving as much of my army as possible. Also, if my opponent spreads out, my deathstar will have problems. I can basically move in 1 direction at a time so if I commit to 1 side, then the enemy can get away. The mobility, or rather, lack of mobility for my deathstar is probably my biggest weakness. I can't be in more than 1 place at a time, which is why opposing armies can just ignore my deathstar. How will I deal with that? By not playing as aggressively as most would think. Draigowing is actually a finesse army. What I really need to do is to attack the middle and to control the middle. As long as I put my objectives there, I just need to defend them. I don't really need to over-extend my "reach".


Coming up next....Game #1.





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anonymou5 wrote:
You can see the edge of my Army in the photo of the 4 Storm Ravens. So close to getting my puppy conversions in a JY2 thread! Almost famous.

That 4 Raven build may be the subject of my next rambling on FLG, we designed it as our anti-Daemon Army, but when our team fell apart we ended up throwing it against nearly everything, and it did shockingly well. It actually beat Eric Hoager from QC, which I didn't see coming at all. I played Kurt Clauss from QC, which was a super fun game (that I may bat rep, just because we both pulled some crazy dirty tricks on each other). I played Thomas from BOLS, which I won't batrep because he beat me pretty badly, haha. Don't want to shame myself. Besides, a batrep of 7 turns of our Daemon Princes flying in circles around each other is pretty lame...

I'm actually curious as to how your quad-raven teammate did. Also interested in how your Farsun-bomb Tau worked out, though I do understand you got a new player to play that list.


just2fierce wrote:
that's my pink chaos army. 2 squads of NM and 2 CSM, 3 havoc squads and 2 turkeys. It was cool to meet all you guys. It was a really fun event and I can't wait to do it again next year. Congrats on the win.

Nice to meet you as well. So how did you do and how did your team do? Which was your team again?


Marcus Scipio wrote:
 Talore wrote:
I can't wait to see more of Paul Murphy's army! If I had that level of talent in building miniatures, I'd almost be tempted to play with IG flyers!


Go to GMMstudios.com he painted it and ha close up shots on his blog.

Congrats jy2 and fluff bunnies!

No wonder his army looked so familiar. I should have figured it out. GMMstudios is just awesome.

And thanks!


 JGrand wrote:
Justin from team Quality Control here. It is great to see all of these pics from the ATC. It was awesome to meet you in person and play the Fluffy Bunnies for all the marbles!

I'll be on the lookout for your ATC bat reps. Thanks for the photographic chronicle of a really fun event!

Great to play against you guys and great to meet another Dakka persona in person.

Your team was really good. I actually wanted to play against Eric Hoerger and am glad that I got the chance to.

I'll see you guys in future events.

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I always enjoy your tournaments reports just for the sheer fact that I love you taking a lot of pictures of other armies there. Love seeing the variety of such beautiful looking armies. Look forward to reading how it turns out for your team.

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 BigJP wrote:
Thanks for taking all these pics. I love seeing all these armies.

 Talore wrote:
I can't wait to see more of Paul Murphy's army! If I had that level of talent in building miniatures, I'd almost be tempted to play with IG flyers!

 Panzer1944 wrote:
I always enjoy your tournaments reports just for the sheer fact that I love you taking a lot of pictures of other armies there. Love seeing the variety of such beautiful looking armies. Look forward to reading how it turns out for your team.

Thanks guys. Your encouragements keep me motivated in writing these reports.

It's also one of the reasons why I like tournaments. Besides the competition, I actually like to show off all the nice armies that I see at the tournaments. Besides being great eye-candy, I think it helps to motivate some people to make their armies better (looking).




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Beautiful armies and nice tactical analysis. Can't wait to see the reports

please don't keep us waiting for long
   
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This event is seriously hard core. Our team was Ordo Exterminatus and I was the captain. It was our first event other than smaller regional stuff done by the same guys that do ATC and the battle bunker in Memphis. A real eye opener. We ended up 3-3 overall, taking losses to the 11th company mercs, Quality Control and General Staff. We drew QC and 11th company in the first 2 rounds.... a great way to start first trip to such a major event, 2 tough losses taken in stride. The guys from both teams were really cool and gave us pointers and tips throughout both rounds.

I'm planning on making the trip to Vegas in February if all goes well so maybe we'll meet up again.


Good trades: 8!!


 
   
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Guys, if you can do me a favor.

I'd like to start my battle report of Game #1 on p.2 of this thread if possible. This is so p.1 won't be overloaded with too many pictures, thus making the page really slow for some readers, including mobile phone readers. Help bump it up with a couple of comments and we should be there in no time.

Thanks.


Fikol wrote:
Beautiful armies and nice tactical analysis. Can't wait to see the reports

please don't keep us waiting for long

Don't worry. Game #1 will be coming out today.


just2fierce wrote:
This event is seriously hard core. Our team was Ordo Exterminatus and I was the captain. It was our first event other than smaller regional stuff done by the same guys that do ATC and the battle bunker in Memphis. A real eye opener. We ended up 3-3 overall, taking losses to the 11th company mercs, Quality Control and General Staff. We drew QC and 11th company in the first 2 rounds.... a great way to start first trip to such a major event, 2 tough losses taken in stride. The guys from both teams were really cool and gave us pointers and tips throughout both rounds.

I'm planning on making the trip to Vegas in February if all goes well so maybe we'll meet up again.


Ouch! You went up against some heavy hitters there. While I don't really know General Staff, both QC and 11th Company are really good. 11th Company has some really good players, including 2 GT winners and one who was runner-up to Tony Kopach at Nova. They definitely have the talent to place in the Top5 and even to win it all. As for QC, we played against them in our last matchup. They're a really good team and I can definitely see them winning it all as well.

If you can make it to the Las Vegas Open GT (LVO) in February, I'll definitely see you again there.




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this post is to move to pg2
also, the pics are awesome!
   
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anonymou5 wrote:
4TheG8erGood wrote:
In the "Pulse-bomb Tau", any idea what the bike looking guys were used as?

From zooming in, it looks like they might be counts as Eldar Jet bikes, with an counts as Eldar HQ hiding in that ruin. Last I checked Ethereals can't shoot lightning from their fingertips.

Well I think I answered my own question. Can't wait to read the reports! Beautiful armies!


They were Eldar jetbikes. The Farseer was a drone thing. If you scroll to the bottom here, I snapped some close up pictures of them.

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2013/08/16/guest-editorial-by-anonymou5-fateweaver-versus-the-world-or-a-way-to-fight-tau-a-tournament-vignette/

They were awesome


Here here to the fatey love!

Jim

Well to help bump this up!, shame we can see the result in your sig but it looks quite a strong team you have put together so expecting you to do well!. Thanks for the army pics I do like the rainbow colour daemons!, Think the maulerfiend is a WFB slaughter brute vortex beast!, very nice conversion.

Looking forward to how your dragiowing worked out, bet you was looking forward to the kill points mission!

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