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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 07:59:42
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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And the supporters emerge:
Paul Waumsley
Funny, I tried to add reason on everyones behalf on warseer, Dakka, Da Waaagh ( before it got there) & I got slaughtered. Now, this where it gets interesting, I went to post on Warseer, Dakka & I forgot to mention Lexicanum & lo I can't post, a friend went on for me & all posts removed. Someone explain that. So on that game I will stand by Alan as everyone else seems to be so pathetic about all this. If this was a scam surely Alan would of buried his head in the sand & disappeared as so many have in the past. Why wont Mr Catwell of Big Bad talk about this & in Black Crusade Studios shoes I would want to communicate via email for the track record. So is it so hard for the complainant to contact BCS, I know I would if someone ripped my work off (& I have had it done to me). Surely its as easy as that. So everyone take your dicks out of each others mouths & let these two gentlemen resolve the matter between them.
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10000pts of Blood Angels
3200pts of 30k Blood Angels
4000pts of Tyranids
3000pts of Eldar
1500pts of Grey Knights
4000pts of Seraphon
4000pts of Daughters of Khaine
2000pts of Skaven
3000pts of Disciples of Tzeentch
1000pts of Beasts of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 07:59:54
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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That's what we want as well James.
No one here is the blood hungry monsters people are led to believe. Hopefully you'll join in the community and enjoy yourself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:01:24
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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If you have not already, and have an hour or two to spare, please review the following thread as many of us have deep suspicions that this individual is behind BCS due to a substantial amount of similarities on literally every front -
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page#5825330
You will find previously used aliases and info, does this seem like the individual you were dealing with?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:03:13
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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Nobody has removed any posts here on Dakka on this subject. Yet now some chap is mentioning that we're erasing his posts?
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:04:09
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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tigerstein wrote:And the supporters emerge:
Paul Waumsley
Funny, I tried to add reason on everyones behalf on warseer, Dakka, Da Waaagh ( before it got there) & I got slaughtered. Now, this where it gets interesting, I went to post on Warseer, Dakka & I forgot to mention Lexicanum & lo I can't post, a friend went on for me & all posts removed. Someone explain that. So on that game I will stand by Alan as everyone else seems to be so pathetic about all this. If this was a scam surely Alan would of buried his head in the sand & disappeared as so many have in the past. Why wont Mr Catwell of Big Bad talk about this & in Black Crusade Studios shoes I would want to communicate via email for the track record. So is it so hard for the complainant to contact BCS, I know I would if someone ripped my work off (& I have had it done to me). Surely its as easy as that. So everyone take your dicks out of each others mouths & let these two gentlemen resolve the matter between them.
Where is he posting as I haven't seen anything pop onto his facebook, BCS, Alan, or Dakka's pages. If he's not posting as a total troll or flame baiting, I can't imagine that his posts would be deleted without reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:06:22
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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ExiledMiniatures here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2375487814/permalink/10151670170012815/
The group in question is a fantastic source for conversion ideas tho.
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10000pts of Blood Angels
3200pts of 30k Blood Angels
4000pts of Tyranids
3000pts of Eldar
1500pts of Grey Knights
4000pts of Seraphon
4000pts of Daughters of Khaine
2000pts of Skaven
3000pts of Disciples of Tzeentch
1000pts of Beasts of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:06:40
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Ketara wrote:Nobody has removed any posts here on Dakka on this subject. Yet now some chap is mentioning that we're erasing his posts?
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Theres an easy way to prove that, they can post screenshots of the posts they made and of their user page. That can be checked by the users and mods here to see if the user ever existed, and problem solved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:09:11
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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tigerstein wrote:And the supporters emerge:
Paul Waumsley
Funny, I tried to add reason on everyones behalf on warseer, Dakka, Da Waaagh ( before it got there) & I got slaughtered. Now, this where it gets interesting, I went to post on Warseer, Dakka & I forgot to mention Lexicanum & lo I can't post, a friend went on for me & all posts removed. Someone explain that. So on that game I will stand by Alan as everyone else seems to be so pathetic about all this. If this was a scam surely Alan would of buried his head in the sand & disappeared as so many have in the past. Why wont Mr Catwell of Big Bad talk about this & in Black Crusade Studios shoes I would want to communicate via email for the track record. So is it so hard for the complainant to contact BCS, I know I would if someone ripped my work off (& I have had it done to me). Surely its as easy as that. So everyone take your dicks out of each others mouths & let these two gentlemen resolve the matter between them.
Like clockwork. Another person claiming banning before we even knew they existed lol... Daniel, why would we delete your posts when they do such a great job of exposing your lies? The above, at least in regards to Dakka, is 100% BS. BCS is reacting rather immediately like this kind of thing is extremely old hat and familiar. Are we really going to pretend anyone who never experienced this before would be reacting in these ways already?
I can also verify Daniel Mandelbaum, on day one of this thread, has begun phoning and emailing people with the usual 'I already called the authorities on people!' Bs threats right on cue as well... Rather quick since his name is not in the thread tile and not mentioned til later...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:15:33
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Thanks, I requested to join the group. Looks good!
MajorTom11 wrote: tigerstein wrote:And the supporters emerge:
Paul Waumsley
Funny, I tried to add reason on everyones behalf on warseer, Dakka, Da Waaagh ( before it got there) & I got slaughtered. Now, this where it gets interesting, I went to post on Warseer, Dakka & I forgot to mention Lexicanum & lo I can't post, a friend went on for me & all posts removed. Someone explain that. So on that game I will stand by Alan as everyone else seems to be so pathetic about all this. If this was a scam surely Alan would of buried his head in the sand & disappeared as so many have in the past. Why wont Mr Catwell of Big Bad talk about this & in Black Crusade Studios shoes I would want to communicate via email for the track record. So is it so hard for the complainant to contact BCS, I know I would if someone ripped my work off (& I have had it done to me). Surely its as easy as that. So everyone take your dicks out of each others mouths & let these two gentlemen resolve the matter between them.
Like clockwork. Another person claiming banning before we even knew they existed lol... Daniel, why would we delete your posts when they do such a great job of exposing your lies? The above, at least in regards to Dakka, is 100% BS. BCS is reacting rather immediately like this kind of thing is extremely old hat and familiar. Are we really going to pretend anyone who never experienced this before would be reacting in these ways already?
I can also verify Daniel Mandelbaum, on day one of this thread, has begun phoning and emailing people with the usual 'I already called the authorities on people!' Bs threats right on cue as well... Rather quick since his name is not in the thread tile and not mentioned til later...
I think Waumsley may be a real person, although he is foolishly standing by a losing cause. I do agree that the responses from BCS seem to be, ok I expected this to happen here's what I'll do now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:22:01
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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If he is he as been coached what to say specifically AJ, as you can attest to. As you can also attest, we don't delete moments out of hand, supporters or not.
The fact he says he was pre banned though is pretty unexplainable, our psychic prescient computers are a secret after all.
If he is, his post is a lie and nonsense, so why would he do that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 08:29:01
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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You make a good point. His words are almost directly what he was told to say. Now if he were smart, he would have taken a more humble approach and been polite about it and changed the context of his post to something else.
To say he was slaughtered on a forum, is just beyond exaggeration. Even by some of the die hard members who didn't believe I wasn't a DM alias, I wouldn't call it a slaughter.
The trend of text does also sit well to DM, it ends in a slur of vulgarity.
A track record could be kept just as well via PM or DM on twitter as all conversations are stored.
The account from what I can see though seems to be older. So it'd be a deep cover account, or an account borrowed from someone else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:08:26
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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This is, although a shame for anyone taken in, fantastic entertainment. It's like watching one of those home video shows where people willingly send in humiliating clips of themselves.
I'm also now super-jealous of that BigBad chap's talent, the Warhound is breathtaking.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:15:39
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Kelne
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It's amazing how easy it is to spot patterns of pathological behaviour here. Good catch, guys, at the rate you're finding his businesses he won't have a chance to scam anyone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:29:30
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I wonder how many other Facebook pages he has in "storage" so he can pop up with a prefabricated history?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:36:59
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Excited About the Great Crusade
New Zealand
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I want to start out with that I had to create an account just for this post (not big into forums), And wanted to say that pretty much all the big facebook hobby groups seem to have caught on on what's going on with this issue. So yeah, Good job as a community that is looking out for each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:39:25
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Welcome to Dakka
Automatically Appended Next Post: I posted Catwell/Big Bads business e-mail which I found on his FB site without search, just clicks. I posted it on the 3rd party site, so he will unable to take it down to clame no one contacted him.
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10000pts of Blood Angels
3200pts of 30k Blood Angels
4000pts of Tyranids
3000pts of Eldar
1500pts of Grey Knights
4000pts of Seraphon
4000pts of Daughters of Khaine
2000pts of Skaven
3000pts of Disciples of Tzeentch
1000pts of Beasts of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 09:59:25
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Funny, I tried to add reason on everyones behalf on warseer, Dakka, Da Waaagh ( before it got there) & I got slaughtered. Now, this where it gets interesting, I went to post on Warseer, Dakka & I forgot to mention Lexicanum & lo I can't post, a friend went on for me & all posts removed.
That's a blatant lie.
Post still there. And in case you really have to wonder, the one lonely liker is none other than "Alan Welson".
Also there were no posts on Warseer by anybody from BCS, Welson or his supporters. None made and surely none deleted, I was monitoring that thread.
In any case this Waumsley account looks and sounds exactly like the previous RF burn accounts to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:32:00
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Hmmm, we've not quite got all the usual clues yet Scooby Gang; Shouldn't someone here be receiving a C&D letter from a Cleaning firm in Liechtenstein by now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:34:09
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I've asked how to order and my protections as a buyer.
No response so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:40:58
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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If by chance this isn't who you think it is then I feel very sorry for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:44:24
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So according to some posts on the BCS FB page he shipped IW bits to somebody and the guy 'received' them. Too bad the other account is not public on FB, so no way of checking this out further. The same thing is going on for most of his 'defenders' and 'supporters'...think about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:44:37
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dunno, going through some odd theatrics to note how an Email apparently has now been sent to "Big Red" (which I presume was supposed to go to Catwell of Big Bad Models, no? Not Big Red of (presumably) BoLS?).
I must thank a certain guy who's name I can not recall from another hobby page for giving me Big Reds email.
I will not post it here but covers all the details and I hope he replies so we can both resolve this misunderstanding as men.
My goal and hope is that by working together we can stop my former client from getting other peoples 3d files and claiming them as his own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 10:57:44
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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AduroT wrote:If by chance this isn't who you think it is then I feel very sorry for them.
If Black Crusade is a genuine firm they will be able to clear the situation simply by publishing their business registration details.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 11:44:43
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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If Black Crusade is a genuine firm they will be able to clear the situation simply by publishing their business registration details.
And a photo of them with the 3D plans  Erm, I mean a screenshot of the Titan 3D files that was not already shown by the real creator on the internet. Somebody wants to bet some cash on the chances of that happening?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:00:58
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Even if they had the files from another source. Attempting to sell it is pretty much a legal no-go. This is something right along the lines of what GW should send lawyers after.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:14:39
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Guys I can now confirm via multiple points this is in fact Daniel Mandelbaum at it again. As with the initial RF finding, I will not divulge the methods used to get the info.
I repeat, Daniel Mandelbaum is behind BCS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:19:22
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Damn... him again huh. He never seem to give up at all. It has been... a month or something when he tried last time?
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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:22:09
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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MajorTom11 wrote:Guys I can now confirm via multiple points this is in fact Daniel Mandelbaum at it again. As with the initial RF finding, I will not divulge the methods used to get the info.
I repeat, Daniel Mandelbaum is behind BCS.
So FB is the current M.O.? The likes keep increasing. Want to bet they top out around 2K like last time? So depressing, but many thanks to everyone who stays vigilant against his abuse of the community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:23:02
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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MajorTom11 wrote:Guys I can now confirm via multiple points this is in fact Daniel Mandelbaum at it again. As with the initial RF finding, I will not divulge the methods used to get the info.
I repeat, Daniel Mandelbaum is behind BCS.
Ohh This'll be good!
Each time he's caught It's a car wreck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/28 12:28:27
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) likely Warhound Scam
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Yup he is busted super early this time because literally dozens of pages and groups were watching for him, he has no idea how many people made him before his page was even 3 days old.
And to note, no, it is very much in line with previous ventures that he ad the next up and running during or very shortly after the previous... In this case it is how fast he is being caught. He is however using a new Paypal account and name that are being reported.
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