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 MajorTom11 wrote:
Yes, quite a variety of fictional characters were involved, lawyers, pr people etc. Quite a fine corporate team for a guy working out of his Dad's spare room.

I'd love to see a PR person actually try to do something with the moldering pile that is DM's reputation lol. That would be a masterclass.

Maybe not his reputation, but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company. Of course it would be easy to reclaim it with simple things like a real phone number, a business ID number, actually meeting people.

Have to disagree there... the fact is he has proven not to be trustworthy on any level. You can't take his word for anything, and he also doesn't seem to think consequences apply to him.

We all know at this point, even if he makes good on any one particular agreement, or even several for a period of time, that his 100% consistent pattern to this point is to eventually start reneging. Knowing that, a reasonable person would never put themselves in the queue, not knowing if they are on the 'safe' side of it or the unsafe side.

This doesn't even take into account the likelihood of harassment to compound the aggravation of being ripped off in the event you complain. Or the risk that you are purchasing stolen or illegal goods in many cases with him (lego knight titan cloned heads, warhound that was stolen or non-existent, cast parts, selling pre-orders he had no access to etc etc etc), not to mention partial or low quality delivery even on deals he did more or less complete.

No, I don't think there is much that can be done at this point to make this guy someone anyone sane would want anything to do with. As I said to him a few days ago, if he did want to pursue righting his wrongs, it would take years of hard work, 100% honesty, accountability and transparency, and a complete willingness to fess up and take his licks like a man for what he has done. He incapable of even understanding those concepts in the way a normal person would, much less fulfilling them.

Four rf employees... Four customers for the Titan.... Four RF customers.

444 - the Number of the Mandelbaumbeast.

but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company.

Didn't Daniel already reclaim that name from a previous company? So you would have to fight against two previous incarnations of your company name - one of them Mandelbaum's. Doesn't strike me as a brilliant plan.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Four rf employees... Four customers for the Titan.... Four RF customers.

444 - the Number of the Mandelbaumbeast.

but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company.

Didn't Daniel already reclaim that name from a previous company? So you would have to fight against two previous incarnations of your company name - one of them Mandelbaum's. Doesn't strike me as a brilliant plan.

Yeah but for most people, they probably only knew of the DM's RF, and of the harm he created to the name, could very easily be reclaimed. You would have to be 100% transparent and such, but you could reclaim the name and make it successful. (assuming that it is true that there was another company using it)

You would have to do it more for the thrill of the challenge, not just because it is a decent name.

Or you could do the smart thing and name yourself something else entirely.

The name is damaged beyond repair now.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Or you could do the smart thing and name yourself something else entirely.

The name is damaged beyond repair now.

Idk. If I approached major tom, taking over the name and being transparent, he seems like hed be reasonable enough to issue a statement that says to the effect: "I can confirm this guy is not Daniel mandelbaum." That statement would go a long way IMO.

It's Daniels name that is ruined. Not resinforge. And that is mostly because of how many identities and companies he has assumed.

Even if someone else did take over the name, it will always be associated with Mandelbaum. People will always be bringing up his scams, even if the new owners were unrelated to him.

The name Resin Forge could be taken over, but what company would want to hinder themselves early by taking over a name that is already tarnished by a previous owner. Maybe a few years down the line provided that the name doesn't resurface under use by Daniel again during that time you could make a go at it; but otherwise whilst its a neat name it offers no benefit over a massive array of other possible names that wouldn't come with the heavy baggage of a bad reputation.

Daniels specific use of aliases and the large amount of documenting though could mean that the name is tarnished for many many more years as any curious search would bring up the warnings as well as the reminder that he strongly uses aliases.

It's a lot of work for utterly no gain and with the potential risk that its going to cost a lot in marketing to clear the name and keep it clear in the public eye - money and marketing that could be far better spent promoting the company itself.



As for Daniel; its been said many times that he's some solid converting skills; that he chooses to use these in bids to scam the community repeatedly is baffling to most of us. However his repeat use and pre-emptive use of aliases and hiding details as well as his lashing out show that its not an accident. This isn't someone who's making mistakes because they don't know how to run a company - he knows very well what he's doing (and after several threads like this should have even more of an idea considering all the points that get raised).

The only way he could profit legitimately from the hobby now would be to join an already established company and work through them - however that's only transferring the problem of him to that company to manage and considering his customer service and honesty track records I can't see any company (and lets remember most are very small time; they don't have divisions of people or such to keep wayward employees in line) wanting to take him on. He's got skill but not outstanding/unique skill.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Yup. Back to Mandelwatch 2013.

Next one would be 'company' #4 just this year alone. And if he uses another alias, it would be the 7th or 8th name he has used, and the 4th dedicated alias.

I repeat, for this year alone.

Yeah... he's getting pretty desperate. I imagine these schemes are not netting him nearly as much money in scams as they used to, given the fact that the community is on the lookout for him and they got exposed so quickly. Less money from scams = not as worth it. Hopefully, the trend continues! And one day, he realizes he has better things to do.

Could we please stop with this completely irrelevant and offtopic discussion if the name RF could be taken over or not? Thanks. Not even mentioning the fact that it surely is not MT11 task to whitewash trader wannabes and to guarantee with his reputation that they don't feth up. Or whatever. Offtopic as I said.

And no matter how "talented" Daniel is or not, he's the most manipulative SoB I have ever encountered in this hobby and I would never touch anything he is connected to, not even with an extremely long stick. He's a psycho. Talented maybe, psycho nevertheless. There are enough normal talented people out there where you won't have to worry that they will make your life hell or drag your company into the abyss because of whatever whimsical reason.

Who cares about the name ResinForge... there are a billion other names, and although on it's own it is a cool enough name, why would anyone choose to take on the burden it brings along with it instead of just finding an equally cool, non-mandelbombed name.

I would certainly confirm 'new resinforge is not Mandelbaum' if someone wanted me to, but ultimately I would strongly recommend they put their efforts into something that doesn't require so much effort just to get it back to 'normal'. That's time you could spend on productive things instead of a burden...

At this point I think this line of conversation is pretty used up so let's please stick to more important topics... this is ultimately irrelevant conjecture.

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 MajorTom11 wrote:
Yes, quite a variety of fictional characters were involved, lawyers, pr people etc. Quite a fine corporate team for a guy working out of his Dad's spare room.

I'd love to see a PR person actually try to do something with the moldering pile that is DM's reputation lol. That would be a masterclass.

Maybe not his reputation, but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company. Of course it would be easy to reclaim it with simple things like a real phone number, a business ID number, actually meeting people.

The name was never registered, so go for it. You only need to file the appropriate forms in your local jurisdiction. The same goes for Black Crusade Studios, in fact.

In that case, someone could easily register the names for Resin Forge and Black Crusade Studios then threaten Daniel Mandelbaum for using the trademark etc. But of course that might lead to him operating under different names. Better to keep him where he can be monitored.

I have to agree. Enough with the name BS. This topic should be about Daniel's scams.we're getting way off topic.

Seems definite that he has indeed ditched resin forge and BCS (though that is still open). Which means that it is indeed very much time to keep a weather eye on the horizon.

May be old hat a little, but thought this may be interesting



Seems the "down" BCS is still trying to sell off titans for sure.

Mandelbaum is still at it, still trying to sell stolen goods or selling items he doesn't have... tell your friends guys.

Also he is hiding and apparently only doing business through Facebook PMs, attempting to hide his presence. But, still desperate enough to solicit anyone who posted anything in him threads to sell them titans. This is a scam beyond his usual scope, selling things that don't exist, or are not what he posted images of. Either way, do not buy from this guy whatever you do.

And santa brings another gift children. I guess DM is still checking this place after all!

Wait, LOL, you are playing him for 'bullgak' info?

This is the info he is giving clients. If it is bullgak it is because he is full of it.

300 bucks for a resin cast titan, all 4 weapons, shipped for 13 dollars. That just makes tons of sense too. As in it makes none, even if you had the files Daniel, and you don't, and even if they weren't stolen, which they would be, there is no way that much Resin costs you so much less than 300 bucks that it would be any kind of worth it. Resin is very expensive stuff. And you are a gak caster on top of it.

Nope, a scam within a scam, hidden behind a scam.

What a joke....


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PS I knew you were working on titan bits... so bloody predictable at this point...

Care to share the whole convo? It's a little hard to figure out what happened just from his last replies.

Also, I wonder how long it'll be until the gak hits the fan and the people that ordered Titans from him realize that they aren't ever going to be getting anything?

~Tim?

He admits he is selling stolen IP in his first post up there, then gives a price and turnaround time for them after that. He knows that nothing about what he is doing is legal.

He solicited Doc there (and others) for posting on his threads in even a vaguely friendly manner and is sniffing around for cash.

Seems pretty clear to me what is going on. I certainly hope no one reports him to GW legal again, since it is right there in black and white he is willfully stealing from them. And the original creator of the files, since they were stolen from him and were only for his personal use. Or he doesn't have anything, and is selling fiction for cash. Or, he is making his own hastily slapped together kit desperately trying to sell them and pass them off as the original custom warhound, and hoping no one will notice.

Any was you slice it, it's a crime .

DM is simply Despicable... He needs to get the hammer from GW legal, that'd definitely shut him up.

Huh... either supply dropped or demand went up (or DM is up a creek ) when I was talking to him about it originally it was 270 per titan or 700 for all 3. And that was under the Alan Welson name.

Dan, Danny-boy, just stop scamming people dude, it's sad, it really is.

This is still under the Alan Welson alias, as expected, DM would never fess up it is him, even when busted red-handed.

Mandelogic.

He says 3 weeks for labor, 5 days to ship. Doesn't that put it very close to paypals dispute limit? Nice way to make sure you don't get disputes opened against you.

I've already sent it back to the GW Legal guys from multiple emails with the screen caps showing he is still selling them.
Hopefully they bust him this time. It's pathetic that he thinks he can blatantly violate the IP without consequences within the US.

If the Chapterhouse lawsuit has taught us anything is that GW is a legal powerhouse who will still win a lawsuit even when they lose on some points.

Loki: As long as they call Paypal the 45 day limit doesn't matter. All it takes is a 10 minute phone call regardless of time, and Paypal will issue a refund from the sellers account. If there are no funds in the account, Paypal will still withdraw the funds and the seller is in debt to paypal.

Had someone pull a scam on me a few years ago when I sold my Macbook on eBay. The buyer lied and said I never shipped it and Paypal removed the funds until I furnished proof of shipping and signature confirmation on the package.

Unless they changed it since the last time I used it or there is another option I'm not aware of, the usps flat rates only apply to donestic, not international.

They do have an international flat rate option I believe but it isn't that cheap!

Come on guys, we all know everything is poor profit if you never ship anything to begin with...

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Care to share the whole convo? It's a little hard to figure out what happened just from his last replies.

Also, I wonder how long it'll be until the gak hits the fan and the people that ordered Titans from him realize that they aren't ever going to be getting anything?

~Tim?

rest of the convo is available if you want here, nothing stellar just wanted to see what he would slip up with. Sent a hello around September time saying "hey all the best" and he suddenly got back to me Tuesday.