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Wow, wasn't expecting the price of the one piece plastic Marines, there is price fluctuation and then there is taking the mick.

White Scars cover is poor in my view, can barely tell its a White Scar marine, should have had him sitting on a resting bike. First glance I thought it was an Apothecary, although it will save me some cash just getting the standard one.

Centurions are crazy priced as well, when I consider I can get three Kans for £28.50.

This will be the first time I pre-order from a deep discounter and just wait for the stuff to arrive.

I play space marines and I spend a crazy ammount of money on warhammer 40k, but the prices on this release are simply ridiculous. No reason whatsever for these pricehikes.

62 Euros for 3 models? feth off.

 ansacs wrote:
Yep looks like 50mm base with ~50mm model height for the centurions.

The drop pods are being standardized across dexs. The TAC squads are also being standardized in prices and options. Therefore should be like DA.

50mm?

That would be a new base size for 40k.

normal infantry are 25
flight stands are 30mm
Heavy infantry are 40mm
MC's and walkers are 60mm

I admit, I cannot tell from the pics...but I was curious if there was any other source on a brand new base size other than estimates from the pics?

I don't really play Marines but some of these models look amazeballs. Sternguard and Vanguard Vets specifically. I also like the Stalker a lot, as well as the Chaplain. Hell, I like it all, except the Centurians and the cherub on the Librarian, which sadly doesn't look super easy to remove.

All I can say is.. COMBI WEAPONS!

Finally, a decent way to get combi weapons.

Ill definitely be getting the Sternguard, Centurions, Vanguard, Tactical marines and possibly some more drop pods.
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Can't wait!

It does seem odd that 3 Centurions cost more than a Land Raider though.....

Just when I thought I was going to start a Vanilla Marine Army... Those prices have forced me to do otherwise.

With the exception of the Tactical Squad, I think it's all waaaaay over priced.

I must admit though... Other than the Centurions, those are the best models GW has made in a long time.

The AA Tanks are just amazing.

Sigh... Space Wolves for me it is.

How long until we get a new codex? I need to get an army before their prices shoot up.

 Ouze wrote:
the cherub on the Librarian, which sadly doesn't look super easy to remove.

You looked at the parts layout, right?

it's separate.

...and there was me thinking that PC gaming was expensive.

I like the new models on the whole. The new Tacs look more upright and the Sternguard are cool.

The only bad point is the Chaplain's Skull mask.

Puscifer wrote:


Sigh... Space Wolves for me it is.

How long until we get a new codex? I need to get an army before their prices shoot up.

Rumor is Q2 next year:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/08/40k-rumors-next-codices.html

If IG ends up Feb, and Orks May, then maybe July or August? Basically, about a year.

I'm admittedly out of the loop here, but just dropping by.

So - the limited edition books. Can someone explain to me what the deal is with them?

 Pacific wrote:
I'm admittedly out of the loop here, but just dropping by.

So - the limited edition books. Can someone explain to me what the deal is with them?

They have limited edition cover artwork, some fancy page edging, are numbered and have a built-in book mark.

Yep. That's about it.

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Maybe I missed it, but wasn't there a rumored Black Templar special edition cover? If there was, well, it ain't listed.

 NickTheButcher wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
I'm admittedly out of the loop here, but just dropping by.

So - the limited edition books. Can someone explain to me what the deal is with them?

They have limited edition cover artwork, some fancy page edging, are numbered and have a built-in book mark.

Yep. That's about it.

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Maybe I missed it, but wasn't there a rumored Black Templar special edition cover? If there was, well, it ain't listed.

It's this one, Crimson Fists dust jacket and BT cover for the successors. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod2160123a

$60 codex, and a flying baby attached to an otherwise cool lookin, albeit $30 librarian. Sad.

Also the chaplain bundle is just nuts

Puscifer wrote:
Sigh... Space Wolves for me it is.

Are you bemoaning the prices of one marines army, and settling on playing another marines army? One that will, in all likelihood, cost only slight amounts less at most than the other?


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BrotherVord wrote:
$60 codex, and a flying baby attached to an otherwise cool lookin, albeit $30 librarian.

Advanced Hobbyists might be able to assist you in using a knife to remove a plastic bit from your librarian.

$60 codex, and a flying baby attached to an otherwise cool lookin, albeit $30 librarian. Sad.

Also the chaplain bundle is just nuts

The cherub is optional and does not have to be attached to the Librarian to complete the model. I'll take any cherub bits people don't want, evil space babies are a weird, fun, creepy part of the 40K aesthetic and I'm sure I could have some fun using them on conversions.

The Chaplain bundle is a $41.25 US vehicle plus $35 Command Squad plus Chaplain for $90. That means the Chaplain model is only $13.75 US added to that price. The only thing that is bad about it is that many existing customers won't need the existing product in the box and they don't want to spend $90 just to get the new Chaplain.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Wow, wasn't expecting the price of the one piece plastic Marines, there is price fluctuation and then there is taking the mick.

The beautiful thing is that you can get pretty much the same stuff for much cheaper already. Hit eBay and get the AoBR Commander for about $10 (£7) and it's pretty much the same model, or at least close enough. Or if you really want the "same" model, get Sicarius in Finecast at $20 (£15). Hit eBay and you can get some Grey Knight bits to make a Librarian (torso, legs, staff, and shoulder pads) on the cheap. Just use spare arms and a stormbolter from your bits box and you're golden. You can get some Dark Angel bits and a chaos skull head off eBay to make an outstanding Chaplain on the cheap, too.

Anyone else having trouble getting onto the GW site?

Games workshop site seems to have gone down on my end. Anyone else got the same problem?

It's been up and down all morning...

The only thing that is bad about it is that many existing customers won't need the existing product in the box and they don't want to spend $90 just to get the new Chaplain.

Yep, god bless internet bit sellers I guess, cause they'll be making a lot of money just selling off the chaplain sprues when they restock command squads and razorbacks.

 Yodhrin wrote:

I so, so , so want to get the LE Iron Hands codex, for no other reason than I have this horrible suspicion that GW will be using these LE books as a metric to determine who gets Supplements and in what order....but I just can't do it. I can't pay double the actual price for a different cover and colourised page edging.

Wouldn't the number of Iron Hands decal sheets sold be a better indicator of who is actually using them?


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Games Workshop is down for me too.
Release week is going to be insane if this is anything to go by.

cadbren wrote:
Wouldn't the number of Iron Hands decal sheets sold be a better indicator of who is actually using them?

There's a specific decal sheet for them?

Edit: Just remembered, Forge World has them. Gotcha.

LE codex poll of shame/self-loathing is up

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/549337.page

Come and confess your sins.

DogofWar1 wrote:

Puscifer wrote:


Sigh... Space Wolves for me it is.

How long until we get a new codex? I need to get an army before their prices shoot up.

Rumor is Q2 next year:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/08/40k-rumors-next-codices.html

If IG ends up Feb, and Orks May, then maybe July or August? Basically, about a year.

Whoaaa the big Russian didn't see that coming, thought they would be a good deal longer. Hopefully we will see a couple of refreshed HQ models in plastic? With a lot of SM's Tac's seemingly coming down by 1pt and getting their own rules? Hopefully some of the SW's pricings will come more in line with normal pricings e.g. close combat HQ pieces being quite expensive e.g. Ragnar VS Sicarius, close combat TH/SS Termies less expensive, jump packs not being priced so high and hopefully Skyclaws will also not be so lame,

Orks in Q1 sounds good also.

DogofWar1 wrote:

Puscifer wrote:


Sigh... Space Wolves for me it is.

How long until we get a new codex? I need to get an army before their prices shoot up.

Rumor is Q2 next year:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/08/40k-rumors-next-codices.html

If IG ends up Feb, and Orks May, then maybe July or August? Basically, about a year.

Nice one, thanks.

I'll have my current ones painted by then, in time for the new ones.

Ph34r, I'm not bemoaning the fact that one army is costing a little more than another, I'm merely stating a fact that a brand new Marine army is going to cost me a hell of a lot more than a Space Wolf army of equal points.

Space Wolf Packs - £23 each... I get more parts and tons of left overs for WG, LF and BC.

The kits for SW are a lot more versatile and cheaper than the standard Marine kit.

The only cross over kits I have to buy are two Devastator kits and two - three Rhino.

Everything else is pure Wolf and waaaaaay cheaper than the new Marine stuff.

300ish days to wait for a new codex is fine for me and it's not like the SW one isn't aging well. It's still a strong book.

Games Workshop page appears to be up, but very slow. Such bad quality service.

Page is still down for me. Hopefully it won't be long before it's back.

Didn't buy a LE codex because the price was too high, but even if I had the cash I'm not sure which I'd buy. I like the UM marine pose the most, but they're one of the chapters I'm into the least. Regular codex is pretty sweet looking, and I feel like the other LE codices could have had cooler artwork, or more action.

 Chimaera wrote:


The big Russian didn't see that coming, thought they would be a good deal longer. Hopefully we will see a couple of refreshed HQ models in plastic? With a lot of SM's Tac's seemingly coming down by 1pt and getting their own rules? Hopefully some of the SW's pricings will come more in line with normal pricings e.g. close combat HQ pieces being quite expensive e.g. Ragnar VS Sicarius, close combat Termies less expensive, jump packs not being priced so high for WG and hopefully Skyclaws will also not be so lame,

Orks in Q1 sounds good also.

I think for SW, the less they do, probably the better. GH are still awesome troops, and I'd hate for GW to suddenly rock the boat, either by increasing cost or nerfing them. Also, we can kiss negating psychic powers on a 4+ goodbye. :( I can think of about a half-dozen things they could/should do for codex, but honestly, if all they did was add in anti-air tools you could probably keep the codex fairly good throughout sixth. They will re-do rune priests, which will be awesome if they get both biomancy and divination (takin' two ML2 rune priests erry match). Personally I'd like to see some tweaking on TWC and a way to add extra wounds to a long fang unit (fenrisian wolves maybe?), but I'm not sure we'll get those. They'll probably lower costs on bloodclaws, re-do SCs, and fix termie costs though, and that'll be nice.

It'll also be interesting to see how they handle Chapter Tactics in non-UM books. I'm guessing they just say counter-attack and acute senses are the CT rules and call it a day.

Orks codex needs an update, so that'll be nice, and likely very fun to read.

Also, interested to see how they deal with IG flyers.

 MetalOxide wrote:
Games Workshop page appears to be up, but very slow. Such bad quality service.

Same for me. Must be bandwidth issues related to the sheer amount of traffic. Perhaps they underestimated how many people on the Internet already knew about their "big secret"...
I'll be going into my local GW to do pre-orders in half an hour, will be interesting to see if that's affected too, since as far as I can tell it all goes through the same site...

Finally I was able to reach the pre-order page.... everything is on there except the regular codex.