Forge World HH/40K News & Rumors - Red Butchers p47

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**gorgon**

I have a hunch that the posing of the Butchers will look better in 3 dimensions.

Also, I don't think it's the old WE scheme that's the problem...it's just the execution and it's obviously a bit of a rush job.

**brendan**

So do these mindless frenzied savages respond to the commands of their leader? Or just spin around...

**Bloodwin**

brendan wrote:
So do these mindless frenzied savages respond to the commands of their leader? Or just spin around...

That would require their leader to give a feck and he doesn't.

**Bonde**

Yodhrin wrote:
Bonde wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Robed Mechanicum look awkward? You've seen Tech-Priests before, yes?

Besides which, Mechanicum are supposed to look awkward and inhuman. I actually find the Thralls to be the least impressive of the ones on offer so far, partially because they're nothing you couldn't approximate by converting existing figures anyway, but mostly because they're not the better-scaled proper-resin Servitors I was hoping we'd get out of FW as part of the Mechanicum range.

Bonde wrote:
I'll be using them as GK henchmen for an Inquisition army with IG allies. I'm mainly going to use Thralls as gun servitors. I'm not sure if I can get away with using a Myrmidon destructor as a Jokaero weaponsmith or an Inquistor or something because of the size.
I do really hope that the AdMech units will get proper 40K rules at some point.
The Castellax Battle Automata makes for a good GK Dreadnought though.

I emailed FW on that score pretty much the moment they officially acknowledged the existence of the Castellax; no dice. They didn't rule out 40K rules, but they used their standard "no plans currently" response, which likely means they'll keep their powder dry on Mechanicus rules until they can put them into a full Imperial Armour book. Given that they're almost entirely dedicated to producing the HH range now, that possibility is a few years away at best.

Thanks for the info. This means that buying AdMech units won't be a complete waste of money gaming wise if you don't plan on playing HH in the future. They are beginning to have quite a few miniatures in that line, so making an IA book with them really makes sense.

Woah there bud, sorry I should have been more clear; that was total speculation on my part, literally all FW said was their normal "we have no plans currently" form email. Also, my speculation was meant to imply that anyone waiting for 40K rules for these will likely be waiting a fair long while.

Still, 40K rules aren't strictly necessary these days. Take SM with Iron Hands tactics(despite GW's frankly atrocious and seemingly fan-hating retcon of the Iron Hands fluff, the rules serve this purpose well, although I'd encourage people to borrow a friend's Marine 'dex rather than buy one, because they don't deserve to be rewarded for utterly gutting one of 40K's most interesting factions); MotF(count-as Archmagos), ven dreads(count-as Castellax), Terminators(count-as Praetorian Battle Servitors), Centurions(count-as Myrmidons) Scout squads(count-as Skitarii). Ally in some Imperial Guard if you want a couple of big Servitor blobs and some tanks, as well as access to Psyker Battle Squads(count-as Electro Priests), and/or use the Inquisition supplement to add in more esoteric stuff. Another alternative is to ally in Dark Angels, since their Terminators can grab plasma cannons, and you can grab a Techmarine with the power field to make your dreads a bit tougher.

You lose out on the more interesting stuff, but if you're not lucky enough to game in an environment where nobody will take a hissy fit over using the HH Mechanicum rules in 40K games, it swerves that issue by being composed entirely of standard codices.

Okay, thanks for clearing it up. It just means that it isn't impossible, and therefore still somewhat likely in the long run. To the other people: thanks for the advice using the AdMech miniatures as codex GK and SM units.

**BrotherVord**

I like them. But those paint jobs are amateur looking

**mitch_rifle**

They are awesome, to be honest i much prefer forge world style of realistic gritty painting, compared to GW cartoony style extreme highlighting

**Commander Cain**

Gritty painting styles can look much better than the ones on those termies though. Heck, just do a quick google search and you can find far better looking paintjobs than that instantly.

FW are just a sculpting studio though so I would rather they use their resources in producing more models rather than painting the ones they already have anyway.

**Captain Blood**

Commander Cain wrote:
Gritty painting styles can look much better than the ones on those termies though. Heck, just do a quick google search and you can find far better looking paintjobs than that instantly.

FW are just a sculpting studio though so I would rather they use their resources in producing more models rather than painting the ones they already have anyway.

Maybe it's a cunning ploy to make people think "I can can do better than that and to prove it I will buy some and paint them most awesomely - that will show them!"

That's a (weak) joke by the way, wouldn't want to be thought a GW/FW conspiracy theorist.

**Azazelx**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
@Yodhrin: Thanks for the summary. That's... horrific. I'm going to keep to the fluff I already have (all the stuff in First Founding for Deathwatch). Way to totally retcon something GW.

Yeah, that sounds awful. I'd just ignore that part of the fluff (and will, for the squad or two I put together for my old-style crusade army.)

**Dozer Blades**

I love 'em!

**bu11etmagn3tt**

sockwithaticket wrote:
Some of those red butchers look like giant children running in for a hug or playing aeroplanes. The chainfist guy looks like he's just pulled something in his back mid-dance. Not a fan

Agreed... I thought john travolta disvo dancing.... but kids running around pkaying planes and making propeller noises is accurate too....

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**angelofvengeance**

Bloodwin wrote:
brendan wrote:
So do these mindless frenzied savages respond to the commands of their leader? Or just spin around...

That would require their leader to give a feck and he doesn't.

Yeah, Angron was pretty annoyed with the Emperor when he came and teleported him off planet leaving all his buddies to die.

**Slayer le boucher**

Oh you have no idea how pissed Angron was, believe me, read Betrayer and you will see.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Especially when the Emperor was sitting up there with an army of his own.

**Alpharius**

Believe me, we all know how upset Angry Ron was.

He's kind of ridiculous about it, really.

It was kind of silly that the Big E handled it the way he did too...

**Lockark**

I think the emperor saw angron's friends as being as damaged and savages. Since like angron they all had the butchers nails too. Thus not worth saveing/already lost.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

From Typhon's video on youtube it sounds like the same sculptor will be doing Mortarion.

**livanbard**

WoW Such bad fluffy.

**Fireball**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
From Typhon's video on youtube it sounds like the same sculptor will be doing Mortarion.

Yeah, that hint seemed pretty clear. Simon Eagan will not be pleased because Mortarion was high on his list what he wanted to do as well. But he cannot sculpt all Primarchs. Lorgar is not quite my cup of tea, but Typhon looks very good , so I hope Edgar will do a good job on Mortarion.

**zedmeister**

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**B0B MaRlEy**

They've also put up the rules for the Kharibdys, the Achilles alpha ,new R'varna and Illiryth rules

**Commander Cain**

Even I think FW may be getting a little carried away with all the tank variants now!

That being said I do prefer i to the original Achilles tank...

**reds8n**

Think we can do a new thread now, new year and all that.