Dark Elf rumours (now includes pics of all 2nd wave models)

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**Mr Morden**

There is certianly some nice cross over potential for 40K

Some of those Executioners would make cool Incubi
Statue of Khaine as an Avatar
Witch Elf's and Sisters as Wyches

Black Riders are great (not convinced about the horses heads) - bit scared to see the price!

**Gitkikka**

What the GAK is going on with those chariots? Hahahahaha!

**pities2004**

Gitkikka wrote:
What the GAK is going on with those chariots? Hahahahaha!

Wheels are overrated

**streamdragon**

Kanluwen wrote:
Haha oh god those horses.
"Deeeeeeeeeerp I'm a horse!"

holy crap how did I miss that? Now I can't stop cracking up at work.

**pities2004**

Kirasu wrote:
boyd wrote:
TBD wrote:
Damn those horses look horrible. That is another unit crossed off my potential buy list. And that chariot....

The Black Guard & Executioners however I like a lot.

None of these models are on my buy list because I don't play dark elves. It's certainly nice to see a fantasy army get an update. It's better than more power armor or more 40k.

Right, because WFB hasn't gotten any army books recently... except the times they get a book every alternate month.

Lol score.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

Loving those dark riders, probably some of the best GW models I've ever seen (20+ years in the hobby)

Prices are still horse gak, though!

One final note, is it just me, or would that chariot struggle to cross an average suburban speed bump? So much for DE world domination!

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Should add, is it just me, or is that fleetmaster with the sword leg gonna be in big trouble if he steps on a soda can! Still, handy leg for picking up leaves!

**Grimtuff**

Soooo.... Dark Elves have White Walkers.

Awesome.

**TBD**

Maybe the chariot has a special catapult attack that launches the riders at the enemy as soon as they hit a bump in the road.

**gorgon**

Kroothawk wrote:
Let's hope the warlocks have bad rules

Per HERO's blog:

they're fast cavalry in rare with state 544431528, and M9 on horse. 25pts/per model. they only have hand weapon, but have 4+ward save except for wounds caused by model with mark of slaanesh or daemon of slaanesh. they're considered to be level2 wizard which is used like pink horrors. +1 for casting value for each extra rank except the first, to a max of +3. they know 2 spells, one is doombolt from DE army book(see #2221), the other is soulblight from lore of death. great unit.

I think the warlocks need a different paint job. I'm not blown away by them by any stretch, but I think we'll see alternative schemes that will make the models look much better.

I like the Black Guard and Executioners a lot. Dark Riders are pretty good...people are focused on the horses, but riders actually look like they're riding, a rarity for WFB.

The chariot is kinda odd, which is a shame since the kit has the new-style Cold Ones.

**Red Viper**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

Should add, is it just me, or is that fleetmaster with the sword leg gonna be in big trouble if he steps on a soda can! Still, handy leg for picking up leaves!

I want to see conversions with trash stuck on his leg.

**Kanluwen**

I hope that the Fleetmaster has another leg option.

**The Shadow**

YES NEW DARK RIDERS WIN! Though the horses could do with seeing a dentist.

The Warlock unit sounds awesome and the Black Ark Character model is also awesome. Nice to see that DE get something to match the Sea Helm!

Those executioners also look very, very cool, though I'm not very impressed with the Black Guard or the Chariot (though it now means my converted chariot was not a waste of time nor money).

Is there any news on price? If the new Black Guard are pretty expensive, I'll stock up on the current ones, but if they're going to be good value for money, I may just wait.

**gorgon**

The sword leg is better conceptually than in reality, LOL. Should be an easy swap on a plastic model, though.

**Azreal13**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
I see the prevailing trend of "let's throw thin fragile bits on everything" continues. It's like GW is secretly in league with Battlefoam or something. The idea that you could transport these in a GW case without damage is ludicrous.

Just a thought, and it's slightly tinfoil hat, and a bit controversial, so Mods, I promise I won't take this any further beyond this comment but...

Plastic is much stronger than resin for thin pieces, and, if there were some clandestine industry that was trying to steal your product and sell it for cheap, but could only replicate it in, for these purposes, an inferior, more fragile medium, taking advantage of plastic's extra resilience in your sculpts would be an extremely effective way of making life hard for these people.

**Kanluwen**

Can someone photoshop the Fleetmaster with the sword peg leg being replaced with part of a leg from a Corsair?

**TBD**

The Shadow wrote:

Is there any news on price? If the new Black Guard are pretty expensive, I'll stock up on the current ones, but if they're going to be good value for money, I may just wait.

Since it is a dual kit I expect it to be priced like the Witch Elves.

**Azreal13**

Just going to throw this out there to see if it flies...

Horse Beavers.

**Aerethan**

Kanluwen wrote:
Haha oh god those horses.
"Deeeeeeeeeerp I'm a horse!"
Would not be terribly hard to fix that by filing the teeth down a bit but man.
I love the new Dark Riders. Not sure about the shields though.

The Warlocks are laughable. The brief fluff blurb you can see reminds me of the Dark Eldar though, sacrificing the souls of others to get their own. I like the mask reminiscent of "Dishonored" on the one though.

The Black Ark Fleetmaster(new hero choice for a Corsair themed army ala the Seahelm? Awesome) would be a good model if not for the peg leg. Who thinks a sword peg leg is a good idea?

Executioners are awesome. I like the masks in lieu of helmets especially given that the masks are similar to those being worn by the Sisters of Slaughter and which also are worn by the Harlequin Death Jesters in 40k. It ties the Executioners into the Cult of Khaine visually.

The Black Guard are nice. They keep the visual aesthetic of the old Black Guard but add a bit more character. They have a very relaxed attitude coming from the models, as though they know they are the baddest dudes in town.

Can't take the chariots seriously. That thing would throw up so many sparks the second you started going over bumpy cobblestones.

It's only once or twice a year that Kan and I agree 100% on something, and this year it only took about 10 months to happen.

I'll likely be kitbashing the chariots with HE ones, because I have eyes and the ability to reason.

BG/Exec look great, Dark Riders look great. Ridiculous character is ridiculous, but then I never run a sea themed army anyway.

**Kanluwen**

You know what occurred to me?

I think the Fleetmaster is an option for the ridiculous chariot like the Sea Helm is for the Lothern Skycutter. If that is the case then there should be another leg option in the box.

**Red Viper**

Aerethan wrote:

BG/Exec look great, Dark Riders look great. Ridiculous character is ridiculous, but then I never run a sea themed army anyway.

Maybe you'll sea more now that they have a Lord choice.

Executioners are growing on me, but I think I still prefer the Black Guard rules-wise. I'm a fan of re-rolls.

**Eldarain**

Red Viper wrote:
Aerethan wrote:

BG/Exec look great, Dark Riders look great. Ridiculous character is ridiculous, but then I never run a sea themed army anyway.

Maybe you'll sea more now that they have a Lord choice.

I sea what you did there...

**Kroothawk**

streamdragon wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Haha oh god those horses.
"Deeeeeeeeeerp I'm a horse!"

holy crap how did I miss that? Now I can't stop cracking up at work.

Yeah, I also missed it at first. Here the concept sketch:

Kanluwen wrote:Can someone photoshop the Fleetmaster with the sword peg leg being replaced with part of a leg from a Corsair?

Like this?

Summary: Now I am happy that I got enough of the old metal Dark Elves. The rest will be filled up with Gamezone and soon the Raging Heroes Dark Elf army.

**AlexHolker**

If you want a less stupid Fleetmaster, replacing the sword leg with a normal leg with a boot blade could be a good way to stay WYSIWYG without being so stupid.

**Kanluwen**

I do not really think that the sword peg leg counts as an extra attack, does it?

**Scrub**

I'm a bit of a new to the whole GW thing but I don't recall them doing a video for a long while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_I8tXa6rM

edit:- Nah I'm just slow, there's loads

**His Master's Voice**

Not interested in the infantry kits. Riders looks nice and I like the steeds. Would make for cool nightmare mounts for VC armies too.

The only complaint I have about the chariot is that it was not pushed further. It really should have looked like the current Rider for DE, where the passengers hang on from the sides. I'll probably convert mine that way.

**pretre**

Scrub wrote:
I'm a bit of a new to the whole GW thing but I don't recall them doing a video for a long while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj_I8tXa6rM

Every month so far... For each new release. Or do you mean specific to the models and with 360 views? That part is new-ish. But videos? they do those all the time.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

TBD wrote:
Maybe the chariot has a special catapult attack that launches the riders at the enemy as soon as they hit a bump in the road.

I hope so, because if that chariot hits a pothole, the riders will be getting launched anyway!

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AlexHolker wrote:
If you want a less stupid Fleetmaster, replacing the sword leg with a normal leg with a boot blade could be a good way to stay WYSIWYG without being so stupid.

That fleetmaster gets more ridiculous with each passing moment. Presumably, he'll spend a lot of time walking about wooden, dark elf ships. Man, those ships will have a lot of holes in deck, thanks to that leg, so much so, they're probably sinking! And they expect us to take DE seriously! No wonder the witch king can't get the throne back if his minions are as dumb as that!

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Kanluwen wrote:
Can someone photoshop the Fleetmaster with the sword peg leg being replaced with part of a leg from a Corsair?

I would if I could. Trouble is, it took me six months to figure out there was a quote button you could use to reply to somebody on this site instead of copying and pasting their sentences!

Tech is not my strong point, alcohol is!

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Kroothawk wrote:
streamdragon wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Haha oh god those horses.
"Deeeeeeeeeerp I'm a horse!"

holy crap how did I miss that? Now I can't stop cracking up at work.

Yeah, I also missed it at first. Here the concept sketch:

Kanluwen wrote:Can someone photoshop the Fleetmaster with the sword peg leg being replaced with part of a leg from a Corsair?

Like this?

Summary: Now I am happy that I got enough of the old metal Dark Elves. The rest will be filled up with Gamezone and soon the Raging Heroes Dark Elf army.

I'm not normally one to defend GW like this, but I like those dark riders. Horses at full gallop tend to bare their teeth like that. And I'll arm wrestle anybody who disagrees!

**Lou_Cypher**

Rules seem to be fun at least. Obtained from:

http://darogscompany.blogspot.ca/2013/09/dark-elves-second-weave-leaked.html

New character, Black Arc Fleetmaster

Kouran has stats of 596432739 and if he joins a unit of Black Guard they become unbreakable. He has a magic weapon called Crimson Death which grants +2 strength, and has a 5+ armour save from the Armour of Grief, which also creates a strength 5 hit against his attacker if he is hit.

Tullaris has stats of 566432739 and when he joins a unit of Executioners, they become frenzied. He has a magic great weapon which is called the First Draich. It gives him Heroic Killing Blow special rule.Hydra regeneration is as follows. If a Hydra is still alive at the end of your phase, roll a number of dice equal to the wounds lost. The Hydra regains a wound on each roll of a 4+.

The new Sisters of Slaughter are not brides of Khaine. They are arena fighters.

Cauldron of Blood gives a 6+ ward save to a unit it joins (5+ if Khainite). In addition, if a unit is within 6'' of the Cauldron of Blood, they can reroll all the failed rolls to wound.Cauldron of Blood also has a bound spell which can make them frenzy (if they are already frenzied, the get +2 attacks instead of +1).

No new special characters.

Malekith is 510 points on foot. Stays much of his rules, but now the circlet grants him a bonus dice if he failed his casting/dispelling attempts once per magic phase.

Black Guard are 15 points each.

Executioners are 12 points each and have killing blow

Cold One Knights are 30 points each

Bloodwrack Shrine has a special rule called called aura of agony that makes units from the Dark Elf book within 6'' +1LD, and all others -1LD, .

Witch Elves keep poison

Power of darkness is one of the two signature spells, and is cast on an 8+. Targets the caster's unit. All models in unit get +1S until the caster's next magic phase, and you recover D3 casting dice. If you rolled 3 dice, the caster suffers a wound that cannot be saved by armour.

Dark Elf have access to all eight lores now!!!!!!!!!!!

Repeater Bolt Thrower is now a special and costs 70 points. You may take up to four in a standard army.

Repeater handbows are now range 12''

Normal Repeater Crossbows remain the same.

Bleakswords are just Dark Elf swordsmen at 9 points each

Dreadspears are also 9 points each

Repeater Crossbowmen (Elves) are 12 points each and may take shields for an additional 1 point per model.

Dark riders are 16 points each and may upgrade to shields for 1 point per model. They can have both light armour and shield without losing fast cavalry (they come with light armour). Repeater Crossbows are 3 points per model

The new chariot with harpoon launcher costs 150 points. It has a profile of S4 T4 W4 with a 5+AS, M9, and two crew with spear and repeater crossbow. It has a harpoon launcher, which is like a bolt thrower but more powerful. It has S7, 24'' range, and cause D3 wounds, however if a monster suffers any wounds from it, the monster will be dragged D6'' directly towards the chariot. If the D6 roll is greater than 3, the monster will suffer an additional wound with no armour save allowed.

Warlocks are fast cavalry in the rare slot with stats of 544431528. They are 25 points each and ride Dark Steeds. They are only equipped with hand weapons, but have a 4+ ward save except for wounds caused by models with the mark of Slaanesh or are daemons of Slaanesh. They are considered to be a level 2 wizard which is used like Pink Horrors. They get +1 to cast for each extra rank except for the first, to a maximum of +3. They know two spells. One is doombolt from the Dark Elves deck, and the other is Soulblight from the lore of Death!

Shades are 16 points each with hand weapon and repeater crossbow. No armour but you can take great weapons or two hand weapons for 2 points per model.

Assassins are 90 points with poisoned attacks. They can get an additional hand weapon or a handbow. They have access to up to 50 points of magic items and also have the option to upgrade to one of three special poisons. One gives +1 to wound, one gives killing blow, and the other causes LD-1 for the rest of the game on a successful to wound roll.

No more pendent.

Sacrificial Dagger is still in for 25 points. After you cast a spell, but before a dispelling attempt is made, you can use the dagger. Remove a man from the unit, and roll a D6. On a 4+ you get an extra dice which must be rolled and added to the casting result before your opponent tries to dispel. If you roll 1-3 then you may try the dagger again and again until you get a dice.

Witchelves are initiative 6

Dark Elf sorcerer's casting dark magic gain a +1 bonus to cast. It is called HEKARTIS BLESSINGThe Sisters of Slaughter are rare options with a stat line of 564331629. They are 15 points each with shield and hand weapons. They can have a magic banner worth up to 50 points. They get a 4+ward save in close combat, and every close combat phase they can choose an enemy unit in base contact. That unit loses parry and and their rank bonus in the following combat result (but they can still be steadfast). If any enemy model in base contact with them have a higher weapon skill or strength value (before weapon bonuses), they get an additional +1 to hit and +1 to wound.

**His Master's Voice**

Kanluwen wrote:
Can someone photoshop the Fleetmaster with the sword peg leg being replaced with part of a leg from a Corsair?