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Now we're all crazy. GW doesn't plan that much ahead.

Deja Vu.... I remember pretty much the same conversation when the WD codex was released =)

 pretre wrote:
I've been saying that for 10 years.

Ah, but has GW?

ClockworkZion wrote:
To expand on Petre's point about them using it to measure demand, it could also potentially tell them how much they need for the release so we don't see a Tau or Eldar sellout again. I'm willing to bet that the number will get padded just in case to ensure that too.

As long as I can read the damn thing, I'll certainly buy it. I'm very curious to see that warlord table, and whatever else they might have added/tweaked. And hey, I like the idea of helping the Sisters out. Maybe it really will work something like you said, I don't want to have to deal with shortages.

 pretre wrote:
Now we're all crazy. GW doesn't plan that much ahead.

Probably not, but I'm willing to bet that they may be concerned about lost sales to because people cancelling their orders when the stuff sold out before pre-ordering was even done.

 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I've been saying that for 10 years.

Ah, but has GW?

Yep.

I haven't read the whole thread, mostly cos I'm not into sisters, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but there are a lot of questions regarding formats. If you buy it in ePub or mobi formats, there's plenty of free conversion software out there to make it whatever you want to be. Have a look at stanza for a free ebook management and conversion tool.

 pretre wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I've been saying that for 10 years.

Ah, but has GW?

Yep.

Huh? They've only ever said that they've had modelling issues with the Sisters, making them unable to do them in plastic. Other than vague assurances of "one day", this has basically been them saying "not now". But then, at Enter the Citadel, they went and said that the tech was there to make the plastics, so we actually have reason to believe that the plastics are coming, now.

And it does tie in nicely with this mini-update, when you think about it. The plastics are possible, which likely prompted said mini-update.

I'm fairly sure we'll have real SoB models before then, if not around the same time.

Ha! Ever the optimist. I've been saying that for 10 years.

GW has been saying off and on (both through official and unofficial) that Sisters were just a bit off for 10 years (15-20 really, but they were right a couple times).

 pretre wrote:

I'm fairly sure we'll have real SoB models before then, if not around the same time.

Ha! Ever the optimist. I've been saying that for 10 years.

GW has been saying off and on (both through official and unofficial) that Sisters were just a bit off for 10 years (15-20 really, but they were right a couple times).

I'm guessing that would be every time they were trying to update them but where having issues making the casting work.

"We got new casting equipment!"

"Cool, let's see if we can cast these Sisters we've been trying to make!"

*cue failure*

Or something like that.

As much as I hope this is real... I am reserving a hearty helping of skepticism on this. We shall see when the WD releases but today my doubts are a bit more reinforced.

Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

 edweird wrote:
As much as I hope this is real... I am reserving a hearty helping of skepticism on this. We shall see when the WD releases but today my doubts are a bit more reinforced.

Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

Yes and we have talk about it for a while now.

 edweird wrote:
As much as I hope this is real... I am reserving a hearty helping of skepticism on this. We shall see when the WD releases but today my doubts are a bit more reinforced.

Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

Doesn't matter, GW owns the actual art and can use it how they see fit. And as it kind of fits the 6th Ed feel and they haven't used it yet I don't blame them for recycling it. Additionally it's not as if we should expect them to use new art on what is (at best) a reworked product.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 edweird wrote:
As much as I hope this is real... I am reserving a hearty helping of skepticism on this. We shall see when the WD releases but today my doubts are a bit more reinforced.

Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

Doesn't matter, GW owns the actual art and can use it how they see fit. And as it kind of fits the 6th Ed feel and they haven't used it yet I don't blame them for recycling it. Additionally it's not as if we should expect them to use new art on what is (at best) a reworked product.

Techincally it could be argued it is new artwork as the two guys at the bottom have been replaced by two battle sisters.

 Erzanj wrote:
I think people are talking about these ones, not the Toughest Girls of the galaxy :

http://www.ragingheroes.com/blogs/news/1447582-the-orphanage-of-the-sisters-of-eternal-mercy

I don't like what we've seen of those so far. I want paladins, not nuns.

 Necrosis wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 edweird wrote:
As much as I hope this is real... I am reserving a hearty helping of skepticism on this. We shall see when the WD releases but today my doubts are a bit more reinforced.

Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

Doesn't matter, GW owns the actual art and can use it how they see fit. And as it kind of fits the 6th Ed feel and they haven't used it yet I don't blame them for recycling it. Additionally it's not as if we should expect them to use new art on what is (at best) a reworked product.

Techincally it could be argued it is new artwork as the two guys at the bottom have been replaced by two battle sisters.

Good point. Thanks magic of photoshop!

Remember, the cover for the Chaos Space Marines codex is also recycled art, so this isn't something new for GW:

 BrookM wrote:
Remember, the cover for the Chaos Space Marines codex is also recycled art, so this isn't something new for GW:

Spoiler:

Very much this. People who are claiming the possibility of the Sisters getting updated based on the art are missing that fact I think. Or ignoring it intentionally. Or trolling. Take your pick.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Remember, the cover for the Chaos Space Marines codex is also recycled art, so this isn't something new for GW:

Spoiler:

Very much this. People who are claiming the possibility of the Sisters getting updated based on the art are missing that fact I think. Or ignoring it intentionally. Or trolling. Take your pick.

Wait, what?

End of the day, if this is real, this is nothing more than a stop-gap measure, meaning that an actual release is at the very least still a year out. I have friends who claim that the new release is going to happen any week now, but so far, not buying it. They also claim that this is a teaser of what is to come early next year. As mean-spirited and evil as some people like to portray GW, I don't see them as being so super-evil that they would issue a digital reprint of the codex, only for it to be replaced by a whole new codex just a few months later. If anything, this is a clear sign that the real dead tree codex is still quite some time out.

 Necrosis wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Remember, the cover for the Chaos Space Marines codex is also recycled art, so this isn't something new for GW:

Spoiler:

Very much this. People who are claiming the possibility of the Sisters getting updated based on the art are missing that fact I think. Or ignoring it intentionally. Or trolling. Take your pick.

Wait, what?

I've seen a number of claims (especially on /tg/ where the source image for the rumor comes from) that the rumor is "obviously faked" because the image is reused from the Inquisitor's Handbook. People who claim this are either unaware of GW reusing art (not to mention the fact that it's their art, not Fantasy Flight's), or choosing to ignore that fact and take the pessimistic route on this, or are trolling people who hope it's real. Or something.

It could still be fake for all we know, but I'll find out tomorrow hopefully, when the store gets the new Dorfs.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Necrosis wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Remember, the cover for the Chaos Space Marines codex is also recycled art, so this isn't something new for GW:

Spoiler:

Very much this. People who are claiming the possibility of the Sisters getting updated based on the art are missing that fact I think. Or ignoring it intentionally. Or trolling. Take your pick.

Wait, what?

I've seen a number of claims (especially on /tg/ where the source image for the rumor comes from) that the rumor is "obviously faked" because the image is reused from the Inquisitor's Handbook. People who claim this are either unaware of GW reusing art (not to mention the fact that it's their art, not Fantasy Flight's), or choosing to ignore that fact and take the pessimistic route on this, or are trolling people who hope it's real. Or something.

Oh, that makes sense. I suggest you read what you wrote previously. You will realize you might have forgotten a word or a few letters (that or im starting to go blind).

 BrookM wrote:
It could still be fake for all we know, but I'll find out tomorrow hopefully, when the store gets the new Dorfs.

We've got some people putting their reps on the line and claiming it's real but you never know with that I guess.

Either way I haven't been stressing it since we'll know by this weekend one way or the other.

 BrookM wrote:
End of the day, if this is real, this is nothing more than a stop-gap measure, meaning that an actual release is at the very least still a year out. I have friends who claim that the new release is going to happen any week now, but so far, not buying it. They also claim that this is a teaser of what is to come early next year. As mean-spirited and evil as some people like to portray GW, I don't see them as being so super-evil that they would issue a digital reprint of the codex, only for it to be replaced by a whole new codex just a few months later. If anything, this is a clear sign that the real dead tree codex is still quite some time out.

If they kept it digital only they could use their always up to date policy for digital codexes and give you a free or discounted upgrade to the full codex when it comes out. However that wouldn't fit GW's recent modus operandi as it is dangerously close to giving the customer something for free.

If this is true and the hardback version of the codex is months away then this will be the first digital codex that I actually buy. I'm waiting till I see the actual White Dwarf with it in but if its true then next month I'm getting a whole load of new stuff for my Sisters.

 BrookM wrote:
End of the day, if this is real, this is nothing more than a stop-gap measure, meaning that an actual release is at the very least still a year out. I have friends who claim that the new release is going to happen any week now, but so far, not buying it. They also claim that this is a teaser of what is to come early next year. As mean-spirited and evil as some people like to portray GW, I don't see them as being so super-evil that they would issue a digital reprint of the codex, only for it to be replaced by a whole new codex just a few months later. If anything, this is a clear sign that the real dead tree codex is still quite some time out.

Don't forget that the Daemons had a WD mini dex last year about this time(in August if I recall), only to get a whole new dex in Feb this year.(One that neutered the recently buffed flamers pretty good)

 l0k1 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
End of the day, if this is real, this is nothing more than a stop-gap measure, meaning that an actual release is at the very least still a year out. I have friends who claim that the new release is going to happen any week now, but so far, not buying it. They also claim that this is a teaser of what is to come early next year. As mean-spirited and evil as some people like to portray GW, I don't see them as being so super-evil that they would issue a digital reprint of the codex, only for it to be replaced by a whole new codex just a few months later. If anything, this is a clear sign that the real dead tree codex is still quite some time out.

Don't forget that the Daemons had a WD mini dex last year about this time(in August if I recall), only to get a whole new dex in Feb this year.(One that neutered the recently buffed flamers pretty good)

Not the same thing though, as that was a free booklet to go with the White Dwarf, this on the other hand is most likely a purchase of around the same price as a digital supplement.

 BrookM wrote:

 l0k1 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
End of the day, if this is real, this is nothing more than a stop-gap measure, meaning that an actual release is at the very least still a year out. I have friends who claim that the new release is going to happen any week now, but so far, not buying it. They also claim that this is a teaser of what is to come early next year. As mean-spirited and evil as some people like to portray GW, I don't see them as being so super-evil that they would issue a digital reprint of the codex, only for it to be replaced by a whole new codex just a few months later. If anything, this is a clear sign that the real dead tree codex is still quite some time out.

Don't forget that the Daemons had a WD mini dex last year about this time(in August if I recall), only to get a whole new dex in Feb this year.(One that neutered the recently buffed flamers pretty good)

Not the same thing though, as that was a free booklet to go with the White Dwarf, this on the other hand is most likely a purchase of around the same price as a digital supplement.

While not exactly the same thing it is something that is being released and will be replaced with a new dex, which you said you didn't see GW being so evil as to do. The daemon mini dex served the same purpose this digital dex serves, a stop gap. Something that says "Hey don't sell those armies yet! Here's some rules to mess around with while we get the real thing ready." The difference is the daemon dex was released before GW started doing more digital releases and WD got its over haul. I personally think it will be at least a year before the hardback and new models are released though.

A year is optimistic, i think that IF sisters get redone it will be one of the last to be redone,

I've always believed that all branches on the inquisition should be rolled into one dex including gk sisters and deathwatch

Troike wrote:Not sure it's real. Note the use of Dark Heresy artwork, and the misspelling of "Adepta Sororitas". [...] Right, that and the fact it's from a third-party, Fantasy Flight. I don't think that GW lifts art from other companies who've borrowed its IP as codex cover art.

edweird wrote:Anyone else notice that the "leak" cover art is the same as the Dark Heresy Inquisitors Handbook?

Actually, that's not BL/FFG artwork. Notice the other two Sisters in the background? For the Inquisitor's Handbook cover, Dark Heresy used existing images and merely photoshopped their own characters from the DH main rulebook over the other two Sisters.



Sidenote: the Dark Millennium TCG is chock-full of cool artwork. anyone who likes SoB art should give this a looksee, as the German version of the article has a complete gallery of the cards. Here's another cool one:

Oh, and GW people have at times written "Adeptus Sororitas" before, so it could be a genuine mistake. As Kroothawk pointed out, in the German localisation that term even made it on the Codex cover (blame the translators), and I believe it still is the official German name of this army to this very day.

pretre wrote:Secondly, they are still competitive now, even without warlord traits.

To be fair, the army needs to stop forcing everyone to use SCs. The Canoness nerf is a major issue that needs to be dealt with.

Troike wrote:I've also got my suspicions about that Chapter Approved stamp on there. Would that really be on a digital codex release? I thought those were just for White Dwarf stuff? Surely, a digital codex would itself be valid?

The Chapter Approved stamp is for anything that Games Workshop considers a legal army list for its tournaments. White Dwarf wasn't the only source where it was used. WD is where most CA stuff comes from nowadays, but that's just because (aside from FW books) there are no other publications anymore.

Admittedly, I too would have thought that the title "Codex" makes it redundant, but it may be GW's way to make sure people regard it as legal even though it's just a download rather than a real book. The WD Codex had the Chapter Approved stamp as well, after all.

Troike wrote:I doubt it. The models are still awkward to collect, so it's not really a perfect measure of demand. I view this more as them being taken off of the backburner and back into being an "proper" army.

GW could alleviate that awkwardness at any given moment simply by re-introducing the 10-girl boxes and selling them for a normal price. Apparently it's perfectly possible for metal IG who cost a whopping 20 pence per mini more than plastic Cadians. All that's missing is the will to do so.

 Lynata wrote:
GW could alleviate that awkwardness at any given moment simply by re-introducing the 10-girl boxes and selling them for a normal price. Apparently it's perfectly possible for metal IG who cost a whopping 20 pence per mini more than plastic Cadians. All that's missing is the will to do so.

Well, if you believe other rumours, all that is missing would be metal casting equipment. Most probably the warehouses are running out of metal models, or they don't have enough equipment to keep a reasonable production level.