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 Mr Morden wrote:
Ughhh why is the layout so horrible :(

It depends on the reader, but yeah, I had to tinker to make it not look bad.

Ok, so :
- Still no skyfire in the whole codex.
- The most non-sensical, unexpected, idiotic, uncalled for, useless nerf ever : storm bolter actually got more expensive now. Nobody noticed, because nobody cares, but still : STUPID !

 pretre wrote:

 Troike wrote:
So seems like reactions are mixed, but on the whole, people are mostly happy with what we got? That's the impression I'm getting. I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm probably not as discriminating as some of you.

Right now, Sisters kick the crap out of a lot of meta lists.

Wraithknights and Riptides? Good luck with that. My ignores cover scouts and exorcists ahve something to say.
Screamerstar and Jetseers? Yeah, so I have a 10 point piece of wargear that kills your unit.

It's delicious.

It is very powerful ATM, I agree.

It's a lot better than I thought it would be and it has enough changes in it to be worth buying.

I can't see a long time SoB player being upset with this. Finally this army has a Codex that works.

Three things I am really glad about:

Smaller Sisters Squads - I don't have to fork out nearly £75 for one squad. Five guys (inc as many flamer weapons as I can pack in) and an Immolator with TL MM for just under £50. I'm ok with that. My Marine squads with custom Shoulder Pads were £35 a squad of ten, plus the Rhino for £55 in total.

Dominions having 4 Special Weapons in minimum squads - Just YES!!!

Good tweeking of rules and updates all round - except PE and the slight nerf to Retributor Squads.

As for the AoF on Ret Squads - isn't more reliable to get one off with them now? At most I only ever saw a Ret squad pulling an AoF once in the WD book.

I also agree that the layout is gak. Any way to change it?

Go to print mode on your reader, that helps a bit. Also, change the display to 4 pages per one page. Helps a lot.

So, can anyone tell me what does Shred do ? I have a French rulebook, and I have no idea about the name of the rule in French. And I don't even have the rulebook with me right now. Is it any good ? What's the difference with rending ?

pretre, what reader are you using? The one I found seems a bit rubbish.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, can anyone tell me what does Shred do ? I have a French rulebook, and I have no idea about the name of the rule in French. And I don't even have the rulebook with me right now. Is it any good ? What's the difference with rending ?

Shred rerolls wounds.

 pretre wrote:
PEs are still walkers.

*sigh*

"For the Emperor, I am a vehicle!"
"Yes, for the Emperor, I am one too, just smaller!"
"I'z a big klanky vehikhul tooo! WAAAAAAAAAGH!"
*sigh* "By the Emperor, I still am as well."

"But not us, silly Mon-Keigh."
"Pathetic Gue'la... Greenskin scum! I'm no vehicle!"
"Silence alien heretics, for I am no mere vehicle!"

"On the bright side though, at least we're all made of plastic!"
"The daemon raises an excellent point!"
"Yeah! Da ladz iz all plastic n' stuff!"

"Feth all of you!"



Warhammer 40,000: The best type of inconsistency.

 pretre wrote:
Condemer bolt guns. 24" S4 hits cause perils on the unit.

Surely that can't mean every model suffers perils, right?

Only the Condemor one shot part has Psi-shock?

Actually...

PE Spam could work.

They get an insane amount of Attacks. Six on a charge per PE is pretty good, plus... 6 Heavy Flamers.

Might have one squad in back up.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Only the Condemor one shot part has Psi-shock?

Thats what i thought. Its a combi weapon, so you only get one shot.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Shred rerolls wounds.

Why not just saying reroll wounds like before then .
I don't get all the hype about Jacobus. I can see two way to use him. Might work on a Sororitas Command Squad with a lot of power weapons, because everyone with rerollable 3+ or 5++ can be quite cool… but it's still Celestians we are talking about, and the extra Act of Faith don't look that useful there. Or, he could join a heavy bolter retributor squad, for improved shield of faith, fearless, and extra Act of Faith. Neither strike me as all that good, for his high point cost.


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Also, I'm confused about the Condemnor word-up. For it to work, the whole unit must have the psyker rule ? Does that mean that a unit joined by a psyker doesn't get any Perils ?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Why not just saying reroll wounds like before then

'Cause it's not as cinematic to say it that way. How do you Forge a Narrative without fancy names?

I'm not seeing the codex on the GW page. Can someone send me a link or something?

Download complete, and naturally nothing will open it. It doesn't seem to like android tablets.

 MWHistorian wrote:
I'm not seeing the codex on the GW page. Can someone send me a link or something?

http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Codex-Adepta-Sororitas.html

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Shred rerolls wounds.

Why not just saying reroll wounds like before then .
I don't get all the hype about Jacobus. I can see two way to use him. Might work on a Sororitas Command Squad with a lot of power weapons, because everyone with rerollable 3+ or 5++ can be quite cool… but it's still Celestians we are talking about, and the extra Act of Faith don't look that useful there. Or, he could join a heavy bolter retributor squad, for improved shield of faith, fearless, and extra Act of Faith. Neither strike me as all that good, for his high point cost.


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Also, I'm confused about the Condemnor word-up. For it to work, the whole unit must have the psyker rule ? Does that mean that a unit joined by a psyker doesn't get any Perils ?

Jacobus and a Ret squad with a Simulacrum is three turns of Rending HB.

That makes them really good, if a little expensive.

Jacobus, 12" Fearless and counter attack bubble, Hatred to his unit and boost shield of faith to a 5+ invul, rosarius and big f off shotgun. Plus war hymns and a bonus act once per game. Not exactly bad.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, can anyone tell me what does Shred do ? I have a French rulebook, and I have no idea about the name of the rule in French. And I don't even have the rulebook with me right now. Is it any good ? What's the difference with rending ?

Look for découpage/déchiquetage/dépeçage, or look in the lightning claw entry.

Puscifer wrote:Jacobus and a Ret squad with a Simulacrum is three turns of Rending HB.

That makes them really good, if a little expensive.

I had the same for way less point before .

S'jet wrote:Jacobus, 12" Fearless and counter attack bubble, Hatred to his unit and boost shield of faith to a 5+ invul, rosarius and big f off shotgun. Plus war hymns and a bonus act once per game. Not exactly bad.

Of all you listed, only Fearless, 5+ shield of Faith, and one extra Act are useful for shooting. And we all know what Sisters are worth in close combat. So, I guess I'll have a simple Priest lead my conclave, now .

I take it that when using War Hymns you use the Priests LD and not the highest in the unit if he is part of one?

The Emperors Strength also makes all the priests attacks Ap2, if you Smash you get 2 S6 Ap2 attacks (2A base, +1 for 2CCW so he always has 2 Smash attacks minimum with standard loudout). Yet here we have to pay 30pts for an Eviscerator to basically get the same thing?

Is it just me or are Hymns better than AoF?

Hymns are only CC so situational.

Where's Kroothawk so I can tease him mercilessly?

Can someone confirm, can you attempt an AoF once per game or succeed an AoF once per game?

Hymns are better, and available every phase too !

Tried a 1600 point list (the usual tournament values at my FLGS) with my models :

Does is seem viable to you ?

Attempt.

I see a couple of really solid builds out of this as a primary and an ally.

One list is 11 Immolators toting 55 Sisters that have 30 Heavy Weapons and 18 Specials. And that's the easiest to see list.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
- Saint Celestine
- 7 Seraphines, 2 inferno pistols
- Priest, litany of faith, 6 DCA, 3 crusaders
- 5 Sisters, SSV
- 5 Sisters, SSV, 2 melta, rhino
- 5 Sisters, SSV, 2 melta, rhino
- 10 Sisters, SSV, heavy flamer, flamer, melta bomb
- 5 Dominion, SSV, 4 melta, combi-melta, Immolator
- 5 Dominion, 4 flame-throwers, combi-flame-throwers, Immolator
- 10 Retributors, SSV, 4 heavy bolter, Simulacrum Imperialis
- Exorcist

It's okay, but...

Inferno Pistols are bad. Just take hand flamers
Get specials/heavies for the 5 sisters
You need more rides. Girls out in the open are dead girls. Especially the 5 girl squad. Or take a Bastion.
Drop the combis on the Doms for more points. SSV is > Combi. Heck Simulacrum > Combi
Drop the Rets and take another Exorcist.

 pretre wrote:
Attempt.

I was afraid that was the correct reading. Boo. I never had much luck getting AoF off when I needed a 3 or 4. Needing an 8 or less is going to be rough.

A big solid scoring 20 girl blob is now a great unit. Being fearless with a priest and being able to reroll saves in h2h makes for a really good unit.

Hmm. Thinking about this one.