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I find it interesting that we'd be willing to destroy the entire planet just because of political beliefs.

It was hard to see. I've changed my opinion. It's awesome.

And also very likely the UK's next carrier design, because they seem to be determined to do anything to avoid practical options.

I love OP's vid, when the fat dude plucks the bow string and it goes spam. Start at 2:13.


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Also did anyone else notice the interview of John Connor.

"All this weapon stuff is new to me." See 4:07

bs, I saw Judgment Day. This better not be the guy who is going to save us from Skynet.

Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

I blame the creation of Militias on the lack of video games. If they played more games, this idiocy would not exist.


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 Manchu wrote:
I love OP's vid, when the fat dude plucks the bow string and it goes spam. Start at 2:13.


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Also did anyone else notice the interview of John Connor.

"All this weapon stuff is new to me." See 4:07

bs, I saw Judgment Day. This better not be the guy who is going to save us from Skynet.

I know, right

 dementedwombat wrote:
Heh, it's a land going aircraft carrier that launches sea-planes. I figure any idea of reality goes out the window at that point. Also I'm pretty sure that the full sized image is some kind of ungodly cat/ski-jump hybrid.

Yep, tracked down the full size image just to be sure. Kind of a weird design. Don't think the guy who drew it knew how an aircraft carrier works...

That is hilarious/awesome in so many ways.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

A surprising number of preppers have the money to legally acquire automatic weapons. Those that don't just have semi-autos like the rest of us.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

Nope.

It's more expensive and requires even more background checks, etc...

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

People may purchase automatic weapons, it's just heavily regulated and very expensive.

 Seaward wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
The last thing I want to do is get into a "US vs the world" argument.

But that's exactly what the whole, "the UN's comin' in boys, hurr" thing that a lot of militia groups subscribe to would be, which illustrates how ludicrous it is. That's a no-win scenario for the rest of the world. Conventionally, you're not getting across either the Atlantic or the Pacific, and unconventionally, even striking first, we've still got boomers freezing their nuts off under the ice caps to ensure the retaliation glasses everybody.

If we're talking a conventional war with the US vs. everyone else, what's to stop the UN from building forces in Canada and Mexico and attacking that way? Last time I looked, Canada and Mexico were parts of the world too.

I had a roomate many years ago that was in a militia here that tried talking me into joining. Aside from the fact that they weren't able to find their own asses with both hands and a map, he quit because as he told me, the militia was drawing plans on raiding houses and farms for supplies in the event of disater.
A real bunch of losers that liked to dress up in grey BDU's and run around with a random selection of weapons getting lost in the woods and almost freezing to death.
This is what happens when a bunch of overweight, out of shape morons who have read too much Mack Bolan and gotten their tactical doctrine from those type of books decide to play soldier.

You still have to GET them there. That's some serious sea lift if you want to take on the U.S. conventionally. Even the laziest intelligence service wouldn't fail to notice that.

Why on Earth would the UN ever need to fight the US?

The US is doing a perfectly serviceable job of it themselves as we speak.

Like, I get the military gun-spank that it is to dream about US fighter squads engaging in some serious Michael Bay style BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA super slow mo as gunships unload on advancing armour or whatever, but that seems to be more of an act of projection, a desire to go out in a blaze of glory.

When it seems far more likely that enough shenanigans could eventually convince the world markets that the USD shouldn't be the reserve currency, that despite the raw size of the economy that it's too volatile to allow it to dictate everything.

Like, we all get it. There's trillions in equipment that exists and is being built. (The royal) 'your' figurative mighty phallus of force is very impressive. If over-compensatory.

'This is the way the world ends,
this is the way the world ends,
not with a bang but with a whimper.'

Why do I get the impression that alot of the Militia types are wannabe military types that would fail the military psyche test and use their guns as "Extensions"
Seriously im not the only one weirded out by "Preppers" right?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Seriously im not the only one weirded out by "Preppers" right?

As with all things, it depends on the matter of degree. Having a well stocked first aid kit, a case of food, a few gallons of water, some candles/flashlights and an emergency kit is prudent and every family should do so. Adding a case or two of .223 ammo and maybe a few gas masks is perhaps a little unusual but still who knows, I'd call that reasonable and it's better to have and not need then to need and not have, right?

From there though... it gets weird. It gets really weird really quick. But, you know, that's every hobby really.

The people who practise for the apocalypse are the odd ones...

I lived on the government dime at times. Seen the make shift trailer housing they have for displace people from Louisiana. Seen refugee camps in other countries. Negative on that. I'm a "Prepper" Unless there's mass bodies rotting around then I'm staying. Six months food and water purification tablets and personnel protection. Four deployments under my belt equals I have a lot of worth while property.

Six month food is not based on quantity but go by calories.

Six month food is not based on quantity but go by calories.

Buurrrrp... Frazzled could take that six month's supply down on a good weekend.

With ot with out the help of the weiner legion?

A good portion of it is MRE's

Is that so you save on not having to stock on toilet paper?

TP in the MRE is quite a trick. You become quite an expert on folding for maximum use with that TP

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

Not if they have a Class III license

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-firearms.html

 Jihadin wrote:
TP in the MRE is quite a trick. You become quite an expert on folding for maximum use with that TP

I thought MREs where meant to plug you up, why do you need toilet paper?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
If we're talking a conventional war with the US vs. everyone else, what's to stop the UN from building forces in Canada and Mexico and attacking that way? Last time I looked, Canada and Mexico were parts of the world too.

The US Navy and the complete lack of naval expeditionary warfare capability in almost every other country on earth. When your best hope is France, you're kinda fethed.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Where are these militia guys getting automatic weapons? Isn't that illegal?

Not if they have a Class III license

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-firearms.html

It also depends on the State. For example, in Washington State individual ownership of automatic weapons is limited to a person with a Class III license who sells or repairs those weapons for the Police, military, or is a licensed exporter. So, simply having a Class III license to sell guns (as a store) won't allow you to own an automatic weapon in Washington State.

 Seaward wrote:
But that's exactly what the whole, "the UN's comin' in boys, hurr" thing that a lot of militia groups subscribe to would be, which illustrates how ludicrous it is. That's a no-win scenario for the rest of the world. Conventionally, you're not getting across either the Atlantic or the Pacific, and unconventionally, even striking first, we've still got boomers freezing their nuts off under the ice caps to ensure the retaliation glasses everybody.

It's a dumb contingency to prepare for.

Most variants of it I've seen typically involve some notion of the US government surrendering its own sovereignty. Which is just as stupid, of course, but sidesteps the military issue.

 sebster wrote:
Most variants of it I've seen typically involve some notion of the US government surrendering its own sovereignty. Which is just as stupid, of course, but sidesteps the military issue.

Well, much like life in Jurassic Park... derp finds a way. It's like how no amount of evidence will ever dissuade a truther or a birther.

This is off-topic, of course..

What would happen, theoretically, if you went out in town with a Plate Carrier on? What about a kevlar helmet, or other pieces of militaristic "swag"? Surely, you would be harassed, but there's nothing illegal about it, is there? What about full magazines of ammunition? I'm curious where the line of "causing trouble" is drawn.

I don't see this being too far off. Neighborhood watches will become armed foot patrols, and dutiful citizens will nominate themselves to stand post at important places. There's a lot of people in this country who are counting the days down on their fingers until they can carry all their toys around with them and intimidate others.

So these are people playing soldiers? Dressing up in cameo and running around the forest with automatic weapons. I'm guessing some of these people never made it into the real military.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
With ot with out the help of the weiner legion?

Well a wiener dog can eat its weight in food every 27.3 minutes...

 Imposter101 wrote:
So these are people playing soldiers? Dressing up in cameo and running around the forest with automatic weapons. I'm guessing some of these people never made it into the real military.

If we're talking about the Oathkeepers, I think they are, by definition, either active or retired military.