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**The Dark Apostle**

anybody seen the pokemon Z pokemon, it looks hideous, it doesn't even follow the same jagged art style and instead has a hexagonal worm like body, I cringe when I compare it to the pokemon X legendary. why? I was gonna get pokemon Z for the cooler pokemon, the third one is always cooler, why pokemon, WHY?!?!?!?

**LordofHats**

4oursword wrote:

Anyone found a way to get Froakie with his hidden ability, Protean? That looks like a fantastic ability.

From what I've read you and two other people go on a friend safari and he gets it. What a friend safari is idk.

**StarTrotter**

The Dark Apostle wrote:
anybody seen the pokemon Z pokemon, it looks hideous, it doesn't even follow the same jagged art style and instead has a hexagonal worm like body, I cringe when I compare it to the pokemon X legendary. why? I was gonna get pokemon Z for the cooler pokemon, the third one is always cooler, why pokemon, WHY?!?!?!?

A. because everybody has personal opinnions. For example, I find him to be the coolest of the three

B. He probably has a true form. Look at his stats. They are terrible inferior to the other two legends. The assumption leads us to either an alternate form or a mega evolution more frightening then them both.

**DA's Forever**

Your friends aren't always following you around right?

**StarTrotter**

4oursword wrote:
That lot's been around for a while now!

Anyone found a way to get Froakie with his hidden ability, Protean? That looks like a fantastic ability.

Not quite sure but if I might throw in my own hunches I think I have two possible ways. One, there is a item that allows you to get the alternate ability for the price off 200BP. The second possibility (which I am not sure of yet) is pokemon friend safari.

**4oursword**

The Dark Apostle wrote:
anybody seen the pokemon Z pokemon, it looks hideous, it doesn't even follow the same jagged art style and instead has a hexagonal worm like body, I cringe when I compare it to the pokemon X legendary. why? I was gonna get pokemon Z for the cooler pokemon, the third one is always cooler, why pokemon, WHY?!?!?!?

I like it a lot.

If there is an alt-ability buy thing that sounds neat.

**Fafnir**

So far, the only method I know is catching it through the Friend Safari.

Also note that it changes your typing before actually using the move, so you pretty much always get STAB.

**The Dark Apostle**

Hoping there's an alt-mode, just got a little ranty as I think these 2 legendaries are almost two of the best so far and was hoping Z would be better.

**4oursword**

And Greninja has a really versatile moveset so he should work well with Protean. I just hope that Goomy is as awesome as he looks.

**mega_bassist**

Well, I did the random trade earlier...and receiver a Scyther and a Victorybell. Pretty good trade off for a Weedle and Zubat.

**LordofHats**

Been doing some myself. Got me a Chespin, Amaura, and a Ferroseed.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
And a Gible.

**4oursword**

I really want to get this game now!

As an aside, has anyone ever thought of hacking in a few Level 9. Reshirams to annoy hackers on gts?
Explanation:

Spoiler:

**DA's Forever**

So anxious for my copy to get here.. really wish I'd just gotten a digital copy ugh... HURRY USPS!

**Fafnir**

3DS hasn't been cracked yet, and I doubt you can dupe anymore.

Also, I'll be breeding adamant larvitars with crazy good IV spreads soon. Let me know if any of you guys want one.

**4oursword**

Fafnir wrote:
3DS hasn't been cracked yet, and I doubt you can dupe anymore.

Also, I'll be breeding adamant larvitars with crazy good IV spreads soon. Let me know if any of you guys want one.

Sorry, meant B/W.

**LordofHats**

Fafnir wrote:
3DS hasn't been cracked yet, and I doubt you can dupe anymore.

Also, I'll be breeding adamant larvitars with crazy good IV spreads soon. Let me know if any of you guys want one.

We should start posting our friend codes. Will be useful for when we want to go on Friend Safari and networks trades and battles;

013032163471

I haven't beaten the league net but my friends tell my my type for Safari is Dragon.

**DA's Forever**

I've added you LordofHats.

My FC: 2766-8306-0576

Postal say's it should be in the P.O. Box. So with any luck I can dive in tommorow

**doc1234**

Eh why not

5455-9749-9272

As for the "hasn't been cracked yet", i'm not 100% sure. There was a tumblr post floating around of a second game break bug involving receiving a none story scripted holo thing off someone, either its another game error like Lumois, or it was malicious and someone has cracked it.

Finished the Elite 4, no idea what my safari type is though (if someone could let me know that'd be awesome). Overall liked this just... there are a lot of little things that either weren't great or kinda bugged me.

Added you both DA-forever and lordofhats

**Fafnir**

Here's my FC: 0860-4081-6465
I've gone and added everyone who's posted theirs so far. Make sure you add me back, both players must add one another.

My safari type is dragon, with Fraxure, Dragonair, and Sligoo.

I've also finished my Larvitar mass production. I've kept two for myself and one for a friend, but the rest (not sure how many are left, but there are a lot) are up for grabs. They are all adamant, they all come with pursuit, and they were all bred (and then inbred several times over, because pokemon is about eugenics above all else) with my near-perfect IV blastoise (save for its speed, which is 24, although some were also bred through a charizard with perfect speed) via destiny knot, so they should all have some pretty good stats too.
Overall, I'm kind of disappointed that I had to sacrifice some defense on my final picks in order to breed them through Charizard, since some of the earlier ones actually have perfect defense to boot, although they keep the imperfect speed, which really hurts. I could have gotten max speed and defense, but that would have taken several more hours than it would be worth. If you have an inclination towards one or the other (speed or defense), let me know and I'll try to pick one that has those stats.

**4oursword**

I've never bothered with EV training, or Nazi Breeding Regimes.
Should I? I can still battle well, I can crush other players who have EV trained, with a team I used through W2.

**mega_bassist**

Fafnir wrote:
3DS hasn't been cracked yet, and I doubt you can dupe anymore.

Also, I'll be breeding adamant larvitars with crazy good IV spreads soon. Let me know if any of you guys want one.

Color me interesed. Tyranitar has been one of my favoeites since Gold/Silver.

And I added DA and Fafnir, I'll add everyone else when I get home. My FC again is 3325-2576-0039 if anyone missed it.

And am I the only one that seemes to be taking forever in this game? I have about 26 hours into it, and I only have two badges

**infinite_array**

Yeah, I'll just stick my code up here again: 0791-2350-8413

Also, as for time, there's just so much to do! I'm catching tons of pokemon (Going to have to catch another 6-7 Eevee's), finding items, changing clothes, and using Pokemon-amie and Super Training - which I'm not sure I'm doing right. The last time I played pokemon was Silver as a kid, so this whole 'hidden stats' and IV's and EV's is new to me.

**LordofHats**

4oursword wrote:
I've never bothered with EV training, or Nazi Breeding Regimes.
Should I? I can still battle well, I can crush other players who have EV trained, with a team I used through W2.

IV's in the handheld versions of the game are imo, something of a pipedream. Here we have a nice fellow offering high IV Larvitars which I would gladly accept and won't hurt you for getting but otherwise IV's are all about the patience and wherewithall to pursue them. IMO, it takes a lot of time and isn't strictly necessary. You're unlikely to end up in many battles where it will matter. When I want perfect IV and EV training I boot up PokeLab or one of the other battle simulators (IV's become absolute insanity especially when chasing hidden power for a build). My hat to those who have done it. I myself don't have that much patience.

However now that EV training is out in the open, no long some hidden numbers that cannot be observed it'll probably start mattering more. The most important aspect of Pokemon's meta is team composition and the vast majority of players I've seen have none on handheld version. However EV training is probably going to be more important now since its out there and clearly seen.

So I fully intend to EV traint and I'll probably pursue limited IV breeding but I'm not going to dedicate too much time to perfecting IV's. EDIT: Pokemon you've bred tend to have higher IV's than ones you've caught in the wild. High and low IV's can be found in both ways but you tend to get higher than average through a simple 1 generation of breeding.

Which reminds me I'm going to be breeding Haunters once I beat the League. Gengar is an old favorite and I'm going to see if I can get at least 24+ in all areas on some ghastly's. Let you guys know of my results once I have them!

**mega_bassist**

I've never really bothered with IV's, but I've dabbled with EV's, and I've spent quite a bit of time doing the EV training in this game.

I did a little bit of breeding, but I''ll focus more on it when I actually finish the game. I bred some Abras, and now I have a Kadabara with some better-than-average speed and spec. attack. Pretty excited to see where he goes...even though Inkay is taking over as my favorite psychic-type.

**StarTrotter**

Fafnir wrote:
Here's my FC: 0860-4081-6465
I've gone and added everyone who's posted theirs so far. Make sure you add me back, both players must add one another.

My safari type is dragon, with Fraxure, Dragonair, and Sligoo.

I've also finished my Larvitar mass production. I've kept two for myself and one for a friend, but the rest (not sure how many are left, but there are a lot) are up for grabs. They are all adamant, they all come with pursuit, and they were all bred (and then inbred several times over, because pokemon is about eugenics above all else) with my near-perfect IV blastoise (save for its speed, which is 24, although some were also bred through a charizard with perfect speed) via destiny knot, so they should all have some pretty good stats too.
Overall, I'm kind of disappointed that I had to sacrifice some defense on my final picks in order to breed them through Charizard, since some of the earlier ones actually have perfect defense to boot, although they keep the imperfect speed, which really hurts. I could have gotten max speed and defense, but that would have taken several more hours than it would be worth. If you have an inclination towards one or the other (speed or defense), let me know and I'll try to pick one that has those stats.

O-oh? Go on? Wait dragon!? My apologies... Favourite type! xD. I'd like to add y'all but my college makes it difficult to connect live. I need to tinker with my laptop to get it to work. Anyways, nice larvitar! I'm actually planning on grinding through goomy's to get the ultimate Goodra! mainly cause it is my favourite pokemon now

also because even if not ou it will probably still be a relatively good pokemon.

**Fafnir**

IVs only matter if you plan on battling competitively. If you're just playing through the main story, they're pretty much meaningless. Even in a competitive context, the only IV that tends to be really strict is speed, since a 1 point difference in speed can easily win or lose you a game. Honestly, the game would be better if they got rid of IVs completely, especially speed IVs.

That said, it's much easier to get decent IVs through the Safari zone, and breeding good IVs has become much easier thanks to items like the Destiny Knot. Fitting in IVs with the right egg moves can be a pain in the ass, however.
Things are certainly better than previous generations, where you could spend 200 hours hoping that "maybe the next one will be better," only to be consistently disappointed.

**doc1234**

IV's, and even EV's to an extent really aren't needed unless you plan on going super competitive in competitions. For friendly battles the benefits are picking your lineup and moves intelligently give a better payoff.

**SagesStone**

Or random online battles, the first few months you'll be able to get by but with the training thing you can't expect that to last all that long sadly.

**mega_bassist**

Ah,well I won't wory too much about it! I mostly play to have fun/see how many I can collect. I like battling, but I've never been exceptional at it. I always lean towards "cooler" more than "better"

**4oursword**

All I have to do is be versatile and look into the moves for each Pokémon and I'm sorted against most opponents, but underusing certain pokémon usually lead to being unfamiliar with them, which is the main reason my girlfriend can beat me, as she never changes from her main six. Even after I gave her a Dratini! The injustice of it all!

Also I spam Dragon-types. I love dragons. Currently training a Dragonite on HeartGold for use in Battle Revolution.