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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 23:31:10
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Cog in the Machine
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So I'm looking to start sisters and I figured this would probably be the best place do advise.
I have around $150 and a medium sized tau army $150-200 to sell so I would love to get some advise.
Plan on using them as allies to my guard until I can get them up to a reasonable size.
My idea was to grab Celestine, 2 squads of sisters in rhinos w melta or flamers, and them a squad of seraphim as a start.
Any help is welcome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/04 23:47:22
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Clockwork Iron wrote:So I'm looking to start sisters and I figured this would probably be the best place do advise.
I have around $150 and a medium sized tau army $150-200 to sell so I would love to get some advise.
Plan on using them as allies to my guard until I can get them up to a reasonable size.
My idea was to grab Celestine, 2 squads of sisters in rhinos w melta or flamers, and them a squad of seraphim as a start.
Any help is welcome!
Casual or competitive play?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:03:11
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Cog in the Machine
Pittsburgh, PA
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pretre wrote:Clockwork Iron wrote:So I'm looking to start sisters and I figured this would probably be the best place do advise.
I have around $150 and a medium sized tau army $150-200 to sell so I would love to get some advise.
Plan on using them as allies to my guard until I can get them up to a reasonable size.
My idea was to grab Celestine, 2 squads of sisters in rhinos w melta or flamers, and them a squad of seraphim as a start.
Any help is welcome!
Casual or competitive play?
Kind of in between, it doesn't really matter to me really, except that there needs to be seraphim in the list, such gorgeous models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:08:56
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Seraphim aren't the best unit, but feel free.
Core build is
Hq, 2 bss with immo kit(can be built as rhino), 1-3 dominions with 4 melta and immo (same thing), 1-3 exorcists.
That's the best place to start.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:24:16
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Cog in the Machine
Pittsburgh, PA
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So with my current 350 dollars I have to spend on sisters what all could I get?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 00:58:47
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Not sure. Take my list and start adding stuff up.
I'm guessing you could probably get Celestine, 2 troops, their vehicles and an exorcist or dominion squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 06:42:10
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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You may want to try eBay. Sisters are kind of expensive :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 17:17:56
Subject: Re:New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Cog in the Machine
Pittsburgh, PA
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Lol, yeah I'm constantly browsing eBay, as well as swap shop. Next time I'm at the flgs I'll send out my feelers as well, in search of the rare and elusive sisters of battle, lol!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 11:40:19
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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KelCJ wrote: Furyou Miko wrote:Too spendy, although I occasionally toss a couple of plasma pistols on my melta-minion superior for lols.
You can do that? Give them two I mean thought that was reserved for seraphim? That does sound fun.
It's a little spendy but I don't know I rarely find my BSS do a whole lot and thought it might be a better way to get some oomph out of them. I might drop the priest though. That might be a little too much.
I've had some great fun with the Gunsligner Plasma-Girl Veteran in my Dominions. Very spendy for a Squad that dies on turn 1 (often) but so much fun when it kills stuff. And just rule of cool really.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/623392-Dominion%20Squad.html?m=2
Plug! lol
(They are finished now btw, but never got to taking new pics yet......)
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 22:24:03
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Hallowed Canoness
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Not keen on that backpack, I have to admit.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 23:04:55
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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Greeting Sisters players! Having just pledged a good amount in Raging Heroes TGG2 Kickstarter I will be joining your ranks... eventually. I am currently looking at getting the following models with my pledge and would appreciate any feedback on numbers. Keep in mind I will be getting Immos/rhinos/exorcists at a later date. Celestine proxy 7 "hero" models *4 of the freebies Sisters proxy - 50 models Repentia proxy - 10 models seraphim proxy - 10 models Death cult assassin - 5 models (the daughters models could not pass up at least 1 box) Celestian proxy - 10 models (the termie models, may use them for SM allies or something, could not pass up at least 1 box troop and command of these though) Pentant Engine proxy - 2 models The following are from TGG1, can not change these numbers and I want to use the models. Dominion proxy - 30 models (Jailbird troopers) Retributor proxy - 10 models (Jailbirds artillery piece is the heavy weapon model spotters are standard sisters) Anything else I need to try an cover?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 12:13:53
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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http://maxmini.eu/conversion-bits/torsos-and-arms/gothic-backpacks-bits The middle one is a bit "meh", plus i think i glued it a bit high on her (or also the angle of the picture) and could do with better painting. (Many excuses.... lol) But i quite like it. Number 1 and 3 can be seen on these: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/623390-Battle%20Sister%20Squad.html (Vet sergeant on the left, front) http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/623388-Alternate%20Canoness.html At least those work much better. Automatically Appended Next Post: keltikhoa wrote:Greeting Sisters players!
Having just pledged a good amount in Raging Heroes TGG2 Kickstarter I will be joining your ranks... eventually.
I am currently looking at getting the following models with my pledge and would appreciate any feedback on numbers. Keep in mind I will be getting Immos/rhinos/exorcists at a later date.
Celestine proxy
7 "hero" models *4 of the freebies
Sisters proxy - 50 models
Repentia proxy - 10 models
seraphim proxy - 10 models
Death cult assassin - 5 models (the daughters models could not pass up at least 1 box)
Celestian proxy - 10 models (the termie models, may use them for SM allies or something, could not pass up at least 1 box troop and command of these though)
Pentant Engine proxy - 2 models
The following are from TGG1, can not change these numbers and I want to use the models.
Dominion proxy - 30 models (Jailbird troopers)
Retributor proxy - 10 models (Jailbirds artillery piece is the heavy weapon model spotters are standard sisters)
Anything else I need to try an cover?
As pretre put it, when you say "Sisters proxy - 50 models", think of this:
pretre wrote: BlackTalos wrote: pretre wrote:So from the previous KS, is there any reason to get the troopers as opposed to the command? I.e. Does the command have all the bits from the troopers PLUS the command bits or are they different?
Like, if I wanted to make a 5 girl BSS squad, I need 2 heavies/specials and a sergeant. Seems like Command is the way to go.
Yeah, i'd say "body" poses are different, heads etc too.
So getting 1 of each would provide flexibility, etc. only if you want more than 5... if just 5 then yeah, i'd go Command Squad =)
So just doing math:
6 BSS Squads (5 girls, 3 Bolter, 2 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Dominions (4 Special, 1 Sgt)
3 Retributor Squads (4 Special, 1 Sgt)
Pretty much my max MSU. Works out to 12 bolters, 12 Sgts, 36 Special/Heavies. 60 Girls. 60 Girls is 12 Command Squads, which only gets you 24 Specials, 12 Sgts, 24 Bolters. I figure converting is a thing though...
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 14:43:54
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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I see, thanks for that quote BlackTalos.
I think since I plan on only using the "sister proxy" models for BSS and using different models for Dominions and Retributors I should end up having enough special/heavy weps.
Also 2 Immo kits on the way already.
My first Imperial army begins!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 15:19:06
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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It really depends, when we get access to the pledge manager, on whether the "normal" troops get a number of special weapons or if only the "command" version does... Choosing "all command" or getting some basic troops will be then, and only vary things by $2-3 (which you can add during selection)
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 15:34:44
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Heh. Glad to see I was helpful in my absence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 15:46:00
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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You have not beaten the User Jidmah though His Force-Org explanation picture has been re-used so much in YMDC: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/640325.page#7678962 So simple.... lol
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 22:06:31
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Ahh, but what of the rumor tracker?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 02:39:46
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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So, looking at the AdMech stuff again, it looks like you can take a formation of just their walkers which gets Outflank, Acute Senses, and the ability to come in from reserves turn 1.
They're not super sturdy, but with outflank and long-range fire power you can get at least one turn of BS5+ shooting out of them and also position them in places annoying to your enemy. I'm thinking you'd want the jezzails instead of the lances?
I didn't really think the AdMech infantry would help us much, but the walkers add an interesting option if you can take them without paying any extra troops tax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 03:05:45
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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What about those melee admech dudes? The ones that make me think of General Grievous with heads ripped from the repair droids from the pod races.
I haven't seen their rules but they seem more like the stealthy melee unit to me, akin to striking scorpions. If they aren't too expensive points-wise and could easily be taken by SoB could they possibly offer us some melee speed-bumps or something? Repentia are cool but they are far too fragile with no decent way of moving around and being effective (rhinos just don't make good assault vehicles GW, when will you learn?). Perhaps if these guys are a little more durable with some decent killing potential and a way of being where they need to be, preferably sans-transport, they could be of use?
I'm well aware that 40K is a shooting game at the moment too, save for a few key units, but I never stop the search to find a decent way of making it work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 04:33:20
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I forget what their rules were, but I seem to remember thinking adding more T3 models without transports didn't seem like a great idea.
For melee speed bumps we already have battle conclaves. They're not too expensive if you just want a unit to hold near your rear units to counter attack what comes at them. (They only get expensive with an inq land raider).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 09:56:59
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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The only advantage the new Grevious-Droids have over the Conclave is movement (to me). +3" on everything, that's up to 18" move a Turn and a charge range of 15", so a possible 24" charge on Turn 1 or a coverage of up to 42" on Turn 2....
Apart form that, relatively expensive, pretty good in CC (quite "random" weapons) and still T3 IIRC.
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 10:29:54
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Actually... the new fortification is just wrong in the hands of the Sisters.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/643552.page
Turn 1, Celestine and a squad of Dominions start inside, allowing you to drop a Massive Blast plasma blast that ignores cover on basically anything you want. Even if it scatters, at BS7, it can scatter at most 5". I'm not 100% on the scatter being rerollable or not, but at BS7 the Gets Hot! should also be rerollable since you're rerolling 1s.
You can upgrade the building with an escape hatch 12" forward to pop the doms out on a future turn and melta something in mid field or really 12" in whatever direction you want to extend their threat range in.
I can't quite tell where the firepoints are based on the picture, but I see at least one slot at ground level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 10:45:12
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Confessor Of Sins
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Sisters of Battle?
Using Plasma weaponry?
The Promethium Relay pipes though, pretty damn good, but nothing new there...
Also http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/568350.page
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 17:01:53
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Problem with the pipes is you can't even reach the edge of the enemy deployment zone. There's no much your flamers can do about 24" shooting.
Now I grant you. A ret squad in a repressor next to the pipes can make for fun times, but I'd hesitate to invest more than that in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 19:17:22
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Lol massive blast ignores cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 22:30:00
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Actually, I think what that army needs is an inquisitor with a psyocculum. While you can't get ignores cover and BS10 at the same time, a massive blast which scatters at most 2" is going to discourage psykers from ever leaving cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/11 02:30:27
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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I knew a guy that did try to make a case for sob plasma weapons though. He said that plasma weapons are described as super heated plasma like that of a small sun. Therefore it is heat based and ok by sob standards.
Also Sister Superior Myria in Faith and Fire carries a plasma pistol. Finally, several miniatures are modelled with plasma pistols.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/11 06:51:21
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Yeah, but I guess if you have the Ordo Hereticus inquisitor manning it, it's less heretical.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/11 08:39:42
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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MrFlutterPie wrote:I knew a guy that did try to make a case for sob plasma weapons though. He said that plasma weapons are described as super heated plasma like that of a small sun. Therefore it is heat based and ok by sob standards.
Also Sister Superior Myria in Faith and Fire carries a plasma pistol. Finally, several miniatures are modelled with plasma pistols.
Yeah i thought of that actually, they love their Plasma pistols but somehow they're not part of the Holy Trinity of Weapons..... Go figure.
Mavnas wrote:Problem with the pipes is you can't even reach the edge of the enemy deployment zone. There's no much your flamers can do about 24" shooting.
Now I grant you. A ret squad in a repressor next to the pipes can make for fun times, but I'd hesitate to invest more than that in it.
When I drafted up some lists with Use of the pipes, it really depends who you're playing....
A "forward" army would have you deploying behind your pipes, behind your line. But if you're playing an enemy you don't think you can reach (as above), then there is (was?) no restriction to deploying the Pipes right up to the Board mid-line ( IIRC), which would put them at 12" from the enemy Line, and be much more useful.
Beware if the enemy goes first though, and actually decides to move forward (but you would've known this normally)
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/11 11:18:41
Subject: New Sisters of Battle Codex Tactica
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I think in this edition fortifications go in your deployment zone :(
Unless you infiltrate them (I rememeber this discussion somewhere. Some warlord traits that let you infiltrate a vehicle theoretically should let you sneak a building there too?)
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