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I'm not sure Verydian adds enough value. You could drop her and that adds points for a third wyvern plus some combis right there.

That is an idea. I had not considered it.

I'll have to acquire a third wyvern, but it would definately round up 85 points easilly with 2 combi-meltas... or a bunch of dozer blades.

Do we have confirmation on what the latest correct rules for repressors are? I'm hearing the awesome 8 fire points one, and the 2 fire points one; too many conflicting making me confused.

Also, with the 8 fire point variant; wouldn't only 5 models be able to shoot from it? Having 3 points on each side effectively creates the need to broadside, exposing the weaker armour.

The latest version does indeed have 8 firepoints, and up to 5 models can fire. Most people are using them to tote around Dominions with Meltaguns, so you'll only have 4 Meltas anyway. You could add a combi-melta on the Superior, but I'm not sure if that is worth the points.

if your target is straight in front of you and wider than 3 inches you can shoot all 8 points at it. But... why would you take an 8 man sister squad anyway.

Can't imagine why you'd take an 8 man sister squad either. I could understand an 8 girl sister squad :p
Maybe if its rets for their act of faith to cripple meq in a round of shooting and better survive the ensuing return fire?

Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Can't imagine why you'd take an 8 man sister squad either. I could understand an 8 girl sister squad :p
Maybe if its rets for their act of faith to cripple meq in a round of shooting and better survive the ensuing return fire?

Most of my squads are 8

Working on a list for an 1850 event here in Sydney, my first in 2 years.
ICT event

Still got 275 pts to spend out of 1850.


ATM looking at.

HQ:
Celestine (Fall of Cadia)
Jacobus
Priest (litanies of faith)

TR
20 Sisters of Battle
Flamer, H.Flamer, M.Bombs.

TR
5 Sisters of Battle
Flamer, H.Flamer, Rhino.

FA

Dominion Squad
4 X melta
Immolator (TL MM)

Dominion Squad
4 X melta
Immolator (TL MM)

HS

Exorcist

Exorcist

Null Maiden Detachment

5 Sisters of Silence

5 Sisters of Silence

5 Sisters of Silence

275 is enough for another tooled dominion squad. Repressors not available to you? They are definately a better choice for dominions.

I would then go for an inquisitor detachment with a lone inquisitor for the extra warlord trait. You want to roll on the strategic table for inflitration. That will help you get your Sisters of Silence up the field into decent position. Plus you can get the Liber Heresius to scout your big squad up on top of 3 servo skulls.

I'd buy one or two more inquisitors, but if you are following ITC rules, then you have to stick to 3 detachments.

So, my thought on SoS... It seems like a blob of them might be fun instead of the 20 sisters. You get 10 of them with swords, add Celestine and walk it up the field.

Other than that, I'd agree with Doms and Repressors or another Exo.


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I agree with the Inq as well. Hereticus with Scout book and 3 skulls is fun. Grenades if you have the points are hilarious as well.


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Lastly, if you have a blob, I really feel like you need a heavy hitter in there. Maybe get a few more priests for additional Hymns (so you can run Reroll x2 and Smash on a couple). Make sure the smash ones have Power Mauls for the S increase.

 Roleplayer wrote:
Working on a list for an 1850 event here in Sydney, my first in 2 years.
ICT event

Still got 275 pts to spend out of 1850.


ATM looking at.

HQ:
Celestine (Fall of Cadia)
Jacobus
Priest (litanies of faith)

TR
20 Sisters of Battle
Flamer, H.Flamer, M.Bombs.

TR
5 Sisters of Battle
Flamer, H.Flamer, Rhino.

FA

Dominion Squad
4 X melta
Immolator (TL MM)

Dominion Squad
4 X melta
Immolator (TL MM)

HS

Exorcist

Exorcist

Null Maiden Detachment

5 Sisters of Silence

5 Sisters of Silence

5 Sisters of Silence

You dont need three units of Null Maidns, i dont think. Id take just one. I think the deathstar is a little larger than it really needs to be. Save some points there also.

He's shooting for the formation benefit for null maidens.

Some nice points.

Continuing the discussion

Three SoS units are indeed for the detachment benefit. (opponents add two less warp dice to his total every psychic phase). Also for thematic reasons.

The 20 man Sister squad:
I think if you wanted to strictly min max than the 5 sisters MSU style /IS/ better. But I'll admit I spent a LONG time painting all my sisters, and I don't really enjoy them sitting in a box, as rhinos drives around, as opposed to looking sweet in a huge group on the battlefield.
Now maybe I just play casual with my friends and don't fight real filth anymore, but I've found the unit to be pretty rock solid. It won't really kill any high armour save MSU deathstar, but its not really meant to. generally Celestine will be in it, granting Hit and Run, and it just acts as a giant tarpit.
Re-rolling armour and wounds in melee (thanks to the 2 priests, and auto passing thanks to litanies) and also having preffered enemy 3 times during the game, I find they are hard, even for dedicated CC units to shift. And can Hit and Run end of my turn, and rapid fire bolters with prefered enemy the turn after.
Obviously they also have a 5++ due to jacobus. I find people generally don't have the firepower to dedicate to actually wiping them out, while having to focus on the real threats like Exorcists, Dominion Squads, so they are generall still pretty good strength near end of the gane, and able to contest objectives well.
They will also now have a 6+ FNP for the needed turn from Celestine.

I think if I gave them any more 'killing power' through an insane IC, i'd be too many eggs in one basket. ATM I've just gone for them being a durable space taking up tarpit, walking forwards and being generally annoying, while the real threats exist out of them. Consolitating points INTO them, would make them the focus point and allow my enemy an easy choice about where to focus their firepower. (It also means, with Jacobus as the warlord, they need to kill a LOT of Sisters before ever getting that point)

Interesting point on the inquisitor. I was also considering adding in a Callexus Assasin, for themetic reasons. Both sort of make sense.

As for Repressor, they haven't been around for AGES. I have played sisters since 2nd ed, but I never got any from forgeworld, and now they just literally dont exist, even on ebay. So they're not really a option at all unles forgeworld releases the kit again.

So I am considering with the extra points

Either another Dominion Squad
Another Exorcist
A Callexus/Callidus Assasin (for backfield disruption)
Seraphim to roll around with Celestine.

Convert Repressors. I have a bunch of pics of my conversions (Immolators with PE drivers on the front, big dozers and pintle flamers).


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Also, don't take Seraphim for Celestine. They are a trap. Take more priests for the blob or Doms or Exo or Callidus.

I am going to have to come up with a conversion for the old Mark I Rhinos into Repressors. pretre I know you recommend the Imperial Guard older style Dozer-Blade...but I think I might try something a little more substantial.

CB

I am curious about the insane love for Repressors.

I have always found Dominions to be a suicide squad anyway. Outflanking, destroying one crucial threat with their no cover rule for one turn, then dying and being wiped off the board. I don't expect them to live beyond the turn they 'do their thing'

Shooting with the firepoints on a repressor exposes the S11 armour anyway, and also denies you another MM shot when coming in from the flank.






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 pretre wrote:
Convert Repressors. I have a bunch of pics of my conversions (Immolators with PE drivers on the front, big dozers and pintle flamers).


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Also, don't take Seraphim for Celestine. They are a trap. Take more priests for the blob or Doms or Exo or Callidus.

Why would you want more priests in the large squad? There's only really 2 hyms worth having (Re-roll Saves, and Re-Roll wound)

So I don't see much net gain other than a few lame smash attacks.

Redundancy is the main one: You can lose X number of priests before you lose your re-roll saves/wounds.

As for Smash: if you give the priest a pMaul smash turns it into a S5 AP2 beat stick which strikes at I3 (better than an unwieldy weapon but probably still striking last)

If you're hard up exorcists, you can always buy space marine whirlwinds. I mean.. I'd call you a ninny, but it's a poor man's second best.

 deviantduck wrote:
If you're hard up exorcists, you can always buy space marine whirlwinds. I mean.. I'd call you a ninny, but it's a poor man's second best.

I own 3.

Just wont have them painted to WD standard in time :(

Idont think an extra two units of Sisters of Silence is worth the benefit. Just my opinion.

 Jancoran wrote:
Idont think an extra two units of Sisters of Silence is worth the benefit. Just my opinion.

But how cool are they going to look!

 Roleplayer wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
Idont think an extra two units of Sisters of Silence is worth the benefit. Just my opinion.

But how cool are they going to look!

I concede the point that their coolness will amplify any battle.

 Roleplayer wrote:
I am curious about the insane love for Repressors.

I have always found Dominions to be a suicide squad anyway. Outflanking, destroying one crucial threat with their no cover rule for one turn, then dying and being wiped off the board. I don't expect them to live beyond the turn they 'do their thing'

Shooting with the firepoints on a repressor exposes the S11 armour anyway, and also denies you another MM shot when coming in from the flank.

The idea is that they aren't a suicide squad and you get multiple turns out of them with the repressor. At least that is my experience.

So I don't see much net gain other than a few lame smash attacks.

Redundancy and smash attacks. Keep in mind that the Smash Special rule gives you AP2 without having to use the smash attack. Give a couple priests power mauls and they have S5 AP2 for all their attacks.

The other advantage to repressors is that rhinos don't have heavy flamers, and 5 melta usable fire points. Even if you don't expect to have the squad later, the Hvy flamer can burn a chunk of what ever just lost it's ride, or even a different squad entirely.

For anyone interested.. just threw all my sisters/inquisition stuff up for sale:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/717742.page#9197174

Wow. Sad to see you selling it.

 pretre wrote:
Wow. Sad to see you selling it.

I know man :( I don't have to, but I just never play 40K. Been dabbling in AoS, and I really dig the faster pace of things.

Wait until July... I don't expect 8th to play as fast as AOS, but certainly faster than the jalopy we are currently in.

 ncshooter426 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Wow. Sad to see you selling it.

I know man :( I don't have to, but I just never play 40K. Been dabbling in AoS, and I really dig the faster pace of things.

I feel you. I just would say that it is one of those armies that is very difficult to replace. If you never think you'll use it again, that's cool, but if you think you ever might play 40k again, sit on it.

 pretre wrote:

 ncshooter426 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Wow. Sad to see you selling it.

I know man :( I don't have to, but I just never play 40K. Been dabbling in AoS, and I really dig the faster pace of things.

I feel you. I just would say that it is one of those armies that is very difficult to replace. If you never think you'll use it again, that's cool, but if you think you ever might play 40k again, sit on it.

This!

I've faded in and out of 40K for the last 20 years but I never sold my miniatures and I have always been thankful.

However, sometimes it is time to move on. Either way good luck sir.