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USA

When we play casual it is usually faction pure or mission specific. OPs are different, with prizes on the line they tend to be a little more cut throat and "how can I screw with the other guy", but everyone usually expects it. For now the OPs I attended allow mixed factions, but once the Dominion war is over ome of them is switching to faction pure fleets.

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its all faction pure around here at the OP's just to cut out a bit of the more insane stuff,

check out your local gaming store or facebook groups should be games going on.

 
   
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USA

So some interesting news came out yesterday. It appears that the Collective OP will only be 3 months long. Kits are going down from 12 participation prizes to 10. There will still be 3 prize ships for each month. However a new caveat is for each OP kit a retail buys the will be able to buy a "Collective Brick".

The brick will have 10 blind packs in it. There are supposedly 5 new ships in the birck, so for the 10 total that is 2 of each. Stores are NOT required to buy the brick to hold an OP, but it does look like WK is encouraging retailers to use the brick as the entry fee ship for their OPs. We don't know yet what the 5 ships are, but my money is on the half assimilated ships we have seen in STAR TREK TACTICS. So far I think there is an assimilated Galaxy, Klingon BoP, and USS Raven shuttle, but who knows. There is also NO indication so far that you would be required to use the brick dhip in you OP build, and I don't think there will because it is an option for retailers.

Some over on BGG some folks seem to be upset by this, personally I think it sounds cool. I go to 3 OPs month so that would be 3 brick ships per month. Between that and trades there should be no problem getting all 5 in 3 months. The way I see it is more ships + more events = more fun.

(http://www.universaldist.com/p-131229-staw-the-collective-tournament-brick.aspx)

Here is a link to the brick from the distributor. What do you guys think?

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Toronto

I'm a bit confused as to how this will all work. What happens if one of those brick ships is far and away the best brick ship- I'd obviously want that one instead of the 4 others...

I'm not particularly upset by this. The first six months of OP have been great. The ships that have come out have not been broken. I've never seen the same build twice, and there hasn't been a build that has emerged as the end all and be all of this game- this is a very good thing.

I don't like that the Collective is only 3 months long, as I prefer the long campaigns, but it makes a lot of business sense to be able to say to new players that they don't have to wait several months to have a chance at a big shiny piece of hardware.

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I just hope that the organized and rewarding OP stuff never ends!

and that some things become available for purchase (like the generic BREL class klingon ship, if not the special op version + cards)

 
   
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USA

Hey guys there is a preview of the Kazon Raider over on BGG

(http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1958347/star-trek-attack-wing-nistrim-raider-expansion-pa?size=medium)

Not a bad ship for its points. The really interesting thing is it has the dial of a klingon ship, but a 180 arc.

Named ship
2 attack
2 evade
3 hull
3 shields
20 points

ability: when attacking a ship with a scan token beside it with your primary weapon, roll 2 additional attack dice.

actions: evade, target lock, battle stations

slots: tech, weapon, crew, crew

For captains we can only see Cullah's (2 points captain skill 4) text : After you move, you may discard one of you crew upgrades to perform an action on your action bar as a free action.

Seska is cool (crew, 4 points) kinda like O'Brian but reusable Seska target a ship at range 2-3 and dis able a crew upgrade of you choice. May be used against a cloaked ship.

The have a neat weapon Photonic Charges (3 points) Disable to make attack, 3 attack dice, Place an auxiliary power token besides the target ship if there is at least 1 uncancelled hit or crit.

They also have a tech called Masking Sercuitry (3 points) it works like the defiant/keldon cloaking device but you take an auxiliary power token to do it. So it could be useful early in the game but I don't see using it one fleets meet. Though it is only 3 points, so combine an early cloak with battle stations and it seems worth it.

So that's about all we can see from the pic, butuit gives us something to mull over while we wait for voyager and the borg.

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Hello!
I just recently picked up the Core set for STAW and enjoyed the one game that I've played so far. I would like to pick up a few more ships but I need to budget myself. Ideally, I would like to have two different factions so that way I can play with other people who do not have the game.

I'm noticing that when people are playing competitively, there tends to be some mixing of factions (not always, but usually). Since I don't have the money to pick up every single figure out there to get access to all of the cards, are there two factions that lend themselves well to being put together in the same list?
   
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USA

Redeemer31 wrote:
Hello!
I just recently picked up the Core set for STAW and enjoyed the one game that I've played so far. I would like to pick up a few more ships but I need to budget myself. Ideally, I would like to have two different factions so that way I can play with other people who do not have the game.

I'm noticing that when people are playing competitively, there tends to be some mixing of factions (not always, but usually). Since I don't have the money to pick up every single figure out there to get access to all of the cards, are there two factions that lend themselves well to being put together in the same list?


Most Klingon and romulan stuff works well together. Picard goes with everything. All of the big 4 factions can hold their own at this point, but klingons and federation have the most complete kits on their own.

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 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
Most Klingon and romulan stuff works well together. Picard goes with everything. All of the big 4 factions can hold their own at this point, but klingons and federation have the most complete kits on their own.


Would the Klingon and Romulan stuff still work well together if I limited myself to ships that were generally found in TNG/DS9 era? For example, in regards to the Romulans, I'm not really interested in the Praetus or the Gal'Gath'thong. I'm just wondering if I'm really handicapping myself as I know that the cloaked mines card comes with the Praetus... but I don't really want to buy that figure just for a card.
   
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USA

The big Romulan ships are a lot of points so its tough to run 3 with upgrades in a standard size game. So a lot of times andyou will have 2 biggies and a little ship for pure romulans. In Next Gen the only small Romulan ships are the Vo and the Apnex. Both the Praetus & Gal Gathong can be very useful.

Neither the Vo or Apnex can carry weapons so their role is limited. The muon wave that comes in the Apnex can be nasty but is rangen1 so if your opponent knows its coming they will shoot it down at long range. Both ships have the same dial and have no red maneuvers which is nice and work well for harassing tech like EM pulses. They take a little more cunning to use.

You should take a good look at the Paetus & Gal Gathong they both have some very useful tools for Romulan admirals.

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Actually, in regards to the Vo and Apnex, what role do they play exactly? I see people mentioning that they play a 'support' role but what exactly does that mean? Just transport Donatra around for the attack bonus?

Also, between the Vo and Apnex, which would be preferable to pick up? Or not bother with either one of them? The Vo has 'massacre' while Apnex has 'interphase generator'. Am I missing anything else important? Hate the idea of buying figures just for a card or two though...
   
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USA

The Apnex is a little more useful because it is cheaper and can take the Muon feedback wave. It also comes with the interphase generator so if you run D'Deridex Warbirds or Klingon ships it is a very usefule thing to have. However it is a tech so if you run Valdor Class ships your out of luck, no tech slot. The Apnex also comes with Mirok for a captain, who is only 2 points and can heal damage to his ship. Jarok is the captain in the Vo and his ability is situational and costly to set up. Early to mid game you will get more from Mirok.


The only difference between the 2 generic ships is the Scout Ship (Vo) has an extra defense die. If you just looking for something to cart Donatra around then the Vo is better. If you are using the ships tech slot for some kind of harassing role w/EM Pulse, Ferengi EM Pulse, Positron Beam, etc, then the Apnex might be better because it is cheaper.

it all depends on what role you want it to play. In most cases it is your 3rd ship so what do you want that ship to do, be a fighter or a support?

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Thanks for the advice. It's really helping me figure out what to initially pick up.

One last question: for Klingons, I know it's recommended to pick up a second Vor'cha but I don't really want to buy another starter set for it or pay too much on eBay for one. I was thinking of picking up the Negh'var and Koraga instead. Would that be sufficient or is there another ship that you would recommend?
   
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That would be perfect. For just starting out a vorcha, negvar, and kavort will give you plenty of tools. The kavort and vorcha are about the same except for 1 attack. The negvar is a nice ship to build your fleet around, and the captains that come with it are key to a good klingon fleet.

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Brighton, MO

Is it just me, or does the Attack Wing FB admin like to complain a LOT about not hearing anything from Wizkids?

HE posts these big complaints about not hearing anything for 2 weeks then all of a sudden they disappear.

I'll be he hasn't dealt with many gaming companies, they all like to tightlip as much as possible, WotC, and Games Workshop are especially tightlipped about new releases, etc.

What are your thoughts?

 
   
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USA

I'm not on FB, but I have had to stop reading a lot of BGG because of all of the complaint threads. I think because the Dominion War is winding down and we have until may for the Tholian Web people are beginning to loose their minds. Some of the threads over there are a little much.

Obviously these folks have never delt with GW, wizkids treats their customers like royalty in comparison.

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I agree, until these people have dealt with Games Workshop, they've got no room to talk.

Oh, and now they're all trying to say Star Trek: Insurrection sucked... At least it wasn't fail-fest like Star Trek (2009) and Into Darkness (2013) which both had bland and uninteresting plots and characters...

Seriously, I'm starting to not like that FB page, he seems very...antagonistic and combative. And doesn't like using facts for arguments.

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There does seem to be a lot of unnecessary rage posting. There are a few who are trying to keep the peace but they are ignored or drowned out by pages and pages of rage. The worst part is they have very little evidence of anything, mostly just hearsay and rumor. But the internet is the place where these things thrive.

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So naturally, after asking about Romulans and Klingons the next ship that I picked up was... the Koranak.

What ships are required for a decent Dominion fleet? I figure I should also pick up the Kraxon. Anything else? 5th Wing Patrol Ship to help screen?
   
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Brighton, MO

There's actually a lot of good dominion stuff, the Gor'Portas is definitely a set you should get 2 of.

The Patrol ship is also one you should probably get two of.

Lots of good dominion upgrades.

 
   
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The Koranak/Keldon class os really good too, and comes with lots of good upgrades. Don't get distracted by the Jem'Hadar battleship though. It backs a huge bunch, but can't turn very well and 0 defense. If someone gets behind you, it can be lost quickly.

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Brighton, MO

So, Voyager and Borg Sphere pics are up on Startrek.com,

people on BGG are being Misogynist over Janeway being CS8...

I mean, really?!

Come on...

Personally, I think she should be CS9, I mean, she Rivals Picard and Kirk in terms of wit and tactics.

I dunno, I honestly thought the fanbase was better than this.

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Janeway was a terrible captain...

 
   
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USA

I would have liked to see Janeway as a 9, but I am happy with 8. Lets face it see made it 7 years on her own, Picard & Kirk didn't do that. Voyager looks very exciting I can't wait to see what the rest of the cards do same with the Borg. Looks like their captains have some new way of determining captain skill, they just have a *.

On a separate note I am about done with BGG. The amount of whining that goes on over there is ridiculous. I have seen more maturity at my son's preschool. For every smidgen of info you find over there is about 4-5 pages of dribble.

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Brighton, MO

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
I would have liked to see Janeway as a 9, but I am happy with 8. Lets face it see made it 7 years on her own, Picard & Kirk didn't do that. Voyager looks very exciting I can't wait to see what the rest of the cards do same with the Borg. Looks like their captains have some new way of determining captain skill, they just have a *.

On a separate note I am about done with BGG. The amount of whining that goes on over there is ridiculous. I have seen more maturity at my son's preschool. For every smidgen of info you find over there is about 4-5 pages of dribble.


BGG seems just as bad (if not worse) than the Star Trek: Attack wing facebook page, everyone over there is crying that Janeway is an 8.

Seriously, I think I'd just unlike the page, but occaisionally a piece of info pops up there that I didn't know about before... So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Either way, I like Janeway as an 8, Feds need more good captains, Can't wait to see what the Borg do though.

Also, can't wait for my Gigantanormantiuan Tactical Cube in the summer!!!

 
   
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 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
There's actually a lot of good dominion stuff, the Gor'Portas is definitely a set you should get 2 of.

The Patrol ship is also one you should probably get two of.

Lots of good dominion upgrades.


Out of curiosity, what exactly about them makes them so great? I haven't played with them yet nor have I seen them in play. From what I gather, the Gor'Portas is basically a torpedo boat and the Patrol ship is pretty much the only manoeuvrable ship the Dominion have. Why would you recommend two of each?

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
The Koranak/Keldon class os really good too, and comes with lots of good upgrades. Don't get distracted by the Jem'Hadar battleship though. It backs a huge bunch, but can't turn very well and 0 defense. If someone gets behind you, it can be lost quickly.


I figure the battleship would be the last thing I pick up as the Koranak is fairly unmaneuverable as it is.
How about the Kraxon/Galor class? Would you recommend that or should I pick up another Keldon instead?
   
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Brighton, MO

Redeemer31 wrote:
 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
There's actually a lot of good dominion stuff, the Gor'Portas is definitely a set you should get 2 of.

The Patrol ship is also one you should probably get two of.

Lots of good dominion upgrades.


Out of curiosity, what exactly about them makes them so great? I haven't played with them yet nor have I seen them in play. From what I gather, the Gor'Portas is basically a torpedo boat and the Patrol ship is pretty much the only manoeuvrable ship the Dominion have. Why would you recommend two of each?

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
The Koranak/Keldon class os really good too, and comes with lots of good upgrades. Don't get distracted by the Jem'Hadar battleship though. It backs a huge bunch, but can't turn very well and 0 defense. If someone gets behind you, it can be lost quickly.


I figure the battleship would be the last thing I pick up as the Koranak is fairly unmaneuverable as it is.
How about the Kraxon/Galor class? Would you recommend that or should I pick up another Keldon instead?


The Gor Portas comes with some good upgrades like the Energy Dissipator and Breen Aide, The Dominion don't have very many good captains, but even with low CS guys, you get powerful abilities to use. Breen Aide lets you turn a blank attack roll into a hit, There's a lot, I don't have any of them because I haven't been able to buy them, but my friend only plays dominion, and his fleets are usually pretty tough with all the extra abilities you can squeeze on ships since they're cheap and you're not spending a lot on high captains, etc.

 
   
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Definitely get a Galor class. The named vessel, Kraxon, has a great "enveloping shield" ability to protect nearby allies.
   
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USA

Redeemer31 wrote:

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
The Koranak/Keldon class os really good too, and comes with lots of good upgrades. Don't get distracted by the Jem'Hadar battleship though. It backs a huge bunch, but can't turn very well and 0 defense. If someone gets behind you, it can be lost quickly.


I figure the battleship would be the last thing I pick up as the Koranak is fairly unmaneuverable as it is.
How about the Kraxon/Galor class? Would you recommend that or should I pick up another Keldon instead?


The Kraxon has a nice ability. If you already have the keldon get a Kraxon/Galor. There are some good combos to make with the Kraxon.

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USA

When both your captain and first officer are out of action...

activate the EMERGENCY COMMAND HOLOGRAM (ECH)


"TUVOK ARM THE PHOTONIC CANNON"


I can't take any of the credit for this though. I have to thank Mr.Tricorder over on BGG for making the image for me. I just printed it out and shrank it down to put on the captain tokens.

I think the ECH is going to become a staple for every federation fleet I make

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