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i may be a little biased but i really want to make LotD work.

what you get for 25 points a model
aid unlooked for: have to arrive by deep strike but can re roll scatter
fear and fearless
flaming projectiles on ALL weapons which ignores cover
slow and purposeful
3++
can take your standard special weapons no grav, take a heavy weapon can kit out like a normal sarge.

what you don't get
marines that survive any better to guards flashlights


tactical ideas
would i spam them like stern guard. no. however if running a reserve army with tank suport and say cato i think they could help. either 1 ten or 2 5s depending on what else you run.
if you run vulkan you can get 3 twin linked melta shots that ignore cover in a 5 man.
with the price of a full 5 man hammenator squad now at 225 this is a cheaper way to get a 5 man squad with 3 up invuls

so should i completely shelve my dark and flaming marines or can the burning legion legitimately help the emperors finest??

I was thinking about putting together a 5 man squad with a plasma gun and plasma cannon. S7, AP2 and no cover will do a number on whatever you are shooting. The bolters are just gravy. Drop them near something nasty that's cowering in cover and wipe them out.

The points are a lot more reasonable these days. I'd still try to keep the squad size down though.

I tend to use them as disposable deep strike units.

5 man units, with Meltagun & either las cannon or missile launcher. Deep strike em near tanks, HQs etc, and watch em go!

Just stick to 5 man to hopefully avoid less DS issues!

They are awesome for deep striking melta - especially when paired with vulcan.

A few squads of these will make a broadside team a very sad panda, and will make short work of a buffmander.

Thousand Sons of the imperium!

Except better.

What I'd say they're perfect for is deepstriking in and taking out that elite unit, whether it be a devastator squad with a lot of plasma, or a vindicator, or whatever.

If they opponent has a low AP unit that needs to be taken out, let these guys do the job. Take advantage of their 3++ save to tank a demolisher cannon shot or two and then pop the vindicator with their meltas.

i run a 5 man squad with my 5 drop pod army, combi-melta, melta and multi melta, 155 points. works for me.

 Brother Sergeant Bob wrote:
i run a 5 man squad with my 5 drop pod army, combi-melta, melta and multi melta, 155 points. works for me.

This probably works best in a Vulkan list since his ability will twin-link the melta weapons for you (remember, it does NOT require chapter tactics to work). It's the way I'd use them though.

Though I'm not entirely sure it's a drop pod list unit since it doesn't help you determine how many pods come down first turn.

I'm thinking about building a small Salamanders core army with 3 full 10man LotD squads to "rescue" them. The LotD are my old 2nd LotD army, while the Sallie core I'll build up from the box sets.

SJ

Brother Sergeant Bob wrote:i run a 5 man squad with my 5 drop pod army, combi-melta, melta and multi melta, 155 points. works for me.

This is an incredible unit and can devastate any vehicle or broadside unit. Take note that the reroll DS scatter and ignore cover are what makes this unit incredible.

Just got a squad of these at Gamesday last month, I will take them for the fluff alone in a 2000pt game. Shame you can't take more than 1 hw in a squad of 5 though

They don't need to be made to work with their special rules. Ignore cover and relentless sells itself.

I run 2 5-man squads in 2K and they rock.

5 LotD (155): Multi-Melta, Melagun, combi-grav
- Bye bye any vehile in the game. Got a pesky waveserpent with an impossible jink save? Ignore it.

5 LotD (165): Plasma cannon, plasmagun, combi-grav
- Bye bye 2+ armor save and MCs.

I love these guys and for the price makes it no worries if they bite the dust.

I would go for Melta & Multimelta. I wouldn't bother with a combi. Maybe a Plasma pistol

but yeah, its just drop and erase a tank. or you go gravgun hvy bolter and just troll ADLs

Salamanders with Vulcan:

5-man (min/max) Legion
+Combi-Grav (all 3 shots at BS4)
+Master-crafted Melta
+Master-crafted Multi-Melta

3-5 reliable AP2 (or better) shots that ignore cover. I love that squad. With any left over points in my army lists I'll give the sergeant a Power Axe so they can do something in h2h and I'll beef the numbers for a linebreaker squad. I love the legions in the new codex. I only run 1 squad because I think like 2 sternguard squads on Turn1 pods.

 ansacs wrote:

Brother Sergeant Bob wrote:i run a 5 man squad with my 5 drop pod army, combi-melta, melta and multi melta, 155 points. works for me.

This is an incredible unit and can devastate any vehicle or broadside unit. Take note that the reroll DS scatter and ignore cover are what makes this unit incredible.

The invuln save helps too. This means when the riptide with interceptor, ignore-cover, twin-linked, ion cannon shoots them in the face they will still have 3 LotD left to drop those meltas.

Sternguard in that case with just be blown off the table before they can do anything.

Why the combi grav when you are kitting them out as a deep strike anti armour unit? Why not combi melta? Especially in a Vulkan list?

Saythings wrote:
Salamanders with Vulcan:

5-man (min/max) Legion
+Combi-Grav (all 3 shots at BS4)
+Master-crafted Melta
+Master-crafted Multi-Melta

3-5 reliable AP2 (or better) shots that ignore cover. I love that squad. With any left over points in my army lists I'll give the sergeant a Power Axe so they can do something in h2h and I'll beef the numbers for a linebreaker squad. I love the legions in the new codex. I only run 1 squad because I think like 2 sternguard squads on Turn1 pods.

I do believe that the Combi Grav is also mastercrafted which makes it great.

no vulkan does not make grav master crafted

Mali wrote:
no vulkan does not make grav master crafted

He makes all combi-weapons master crafted on charaters (or thereabouts) and a relentless LotD is a good platform for Grav

Here is my fluffy army of the Lotd coming to save the day for the smurfs! or, well, at least try! haha.


Legion of the Damned army
Captian Sicarius- 185
Tigurius-165
10 man Tac squad w/ vet Sgt w/ power weapon and melta bombs plasma gun and MM-180
10 man Tac squad w/ vet Sgt w/ power weapon and melta bombs plasma gun and MM-180
10 man Tac squad w/ Vet Sgt w/ power weapon and melta bombs plasma gun and ML- 185
10 man Legion of the Damned Sgt w/ power fist w/, plasma gun, MM, Combi plasma- 300
10 man Legion of the Damned Sgt w/ power fist w/ plasma gun, MM, and Combi plasma- 300
10 man Legion of the Damned w/ plasma gun, MM, and Combi plasma- 285
Storm Raven W/ TL LC, TL MM- 200

I run them with as much Plasma as I can pack in the smallest squad possible. Melta is good if you don't have enough elsewhere but I'd rather hit dug in, hard to shift units with as many ignoring cover and ignoring armour shots as possible. I like to run two Sternguard and one LotD units, can't quite fit in three good sized and well equipped Sternguard into my list.

 ansacs wrote:

Brother Sergeant Bob wrote:i run a 5 man squad with my 5 drop pod army, combi-melta, melta and multi melta, 155 points. works for me.

This is an incredible unit and can devastate any vehicle or broadside unit. Take note that the reroll DS scatter and ignore cover are what makes this unit incredible.

I use sternguard in my drop pod army, so I get tons of combi melta and combi everything, otherwise I would use that very same load out.

Razerous wrote:

Mali wrote:
no vulkan does not make grav master crafted

He makes all combi-weapons master crafted on charaters (or thereabouts) and a relentless LotD is a good platform for Grav

Vulkan only mastercrafts melta weapons (which includes combi-meltas)

You may be confusing this with the salamanders chapter tactic where characters get a weapon mastercrafted for free (which lotd do not get since they lack chapter tactics)

I like the idea of a plasma gun, multi melta and power axe.

Gives me a lot of threat within 24" and a reasonable assault presence.

The only way I've personally made them work was using them like suicide-Sterns... for not a terribly bad price, you get 3++ saves with meltas and re-rolling deep strike... definitely worth a try.