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It really doesn't. Im not entirely sure but how does obi rapidly de-age lol :p

Why is attack of the clones before return of the jedi?

Da krimson barun wrote:
That doesn't look right.

It is in that order, whilst not chronological, to avoid ruining the big reveal of episode 5 that was a major aspect. Sure it is one of those spoilers that means nothing anymore but the impact is still lessened no matter what and promotes Darth Vader as a badass before providing some backstory into his fall.


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Da krimson barun wrote:
Why is attack of the clones before return of the jedi?

Also do you really want to watch:
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones

Two hops in a row is bad enough! 3 is just pushing it.

There are only 3 star wars films, move along

Instead of trying to explain it, read this:
http://static.nomachetejuggling.com/machete_order.html
Please note that it does contain spoilers if you've never seen the films.

Basically, since the Original Trilogy is about Luke, we use it as a frame:
Episode 4
Episode 5
"Flashback" to Episode 2 and 3
Resolution in Episode 6

Blaster vs Lasgun

Lasgun is a laser. Blaster is beyond a laser. Some blasters are equivelent to Plasma guns to deal with armor, most are "better" in terms of efficiency to deal with biologicals.

Science and Technology

Star Wars trumps. IoM treats technology as religion. GE treats it as science, promotes it's learning, innovation, use, etc... IoM's "networks" would be an absolute joke to the GE, and most ships/armor/etc would probably just be shut down remotely. IoM outclasses GE in terms of brute strength, but brute strength isn't everything.

Troops

Storm Troopers, despite their portrayel in Episode 4/5/6 are the elite of the elite. They under go the best training available to military forces. They are the Special Ops of the Empire. Storm Troopers would probably be equivalent to, well Storm Troopers of the IoM in training, but I'd give Storm Trooper (GE) an edge over carapace. Storm Trooper Armor was designed to keep the wearer alive when struck by heavy weapon blaster bolts, and provided near immunity to kinetic weapons. In comparison, IG armor would be like paper to Blasters. Carapace would probably provide some protection. Power Armor would be the only thing I'd rely on against it. Their training would be inferior, their weapons are inferior.

Now if the GE showed up in the IoM universe, then of course the IoM would win, shoudl the IoM show up in the GE universe, the GE would win. Both sides picked up and placed in a neutral universe? Hard to say.

Blasters are no more true lasers than las guns are, poor writing and "visual" effects show this, true lasers move at the speed of light, neither las guns nor blasters do this, sad but true.

The iom don't use networks, they use brains and miu's, can't shut that down easily

I'd have to hand the initial advantage to the GE - they have incredibly fast travel even if it's more risky for them without charted, pre-set routes. They also have instant galaxy-wide communications with the holonet, though they'd probably have to start seeding relays. And some pretty staggering production capacity if needed... the Death Star was built in secret (so the manpower and materials wasn't noted as missing) and in only a few years.

What I can't see is any reason for them to start trouble at all. Exploration beyond the known areas of the Old Republic has long been discouraged, and the armed forces are used more for policing their own systems than anything else. In a way they're stretched as thin as the IoM.

Spetulhu wrote:
I'd have to hand the initial advantage to the GE - they have incredibly fast travel even if it's more risky for them without charted, pre-set routes. They also have instant galaxy-wide communications with the holonet, though they'd probably have to start seeding relays. And some pretty staggering production capacity if needed... the Death Star was built in secret (so the manpower and materials wasn't noted as missing) and in only a few years.

What I can't see is any reason for them to start trouble at all. Exploration beyond the known areas of the Old Republic has long been discouraged, and the armed forces are used more for policing their own systems than anything else. In a way they're stretched as thin as the IoM.

Even if they can't get maps, they do have technologies for mapping out unknown territory. How do you think they charted out their own galaxy? Not only can they use simple optical observations to map out much of the galaxy with conventional astronomy techniques, but they can launch thousands of probe droids to map out territories which are not so easily observed, and to refine the information they get from the initial optical survey. Optical data on our galaxy depicts information which is, at worst, a couple of hundred thousand years old, which is nothing in an astronomical context. No astronomically major changes occur over such a short time-frame. And if they lose half of the probe droids in the process, who cares? They're cheap and disposable anyway.

Oh, it's this thread again...

 Psienesis wrote:
Oh, it's this thread again...

very contributive good job.

It started out good, asking about the real-world differences between the Star Wars EU and the Black Library.... and then descended into the place where dreams go to die, which is yet another "who would win?" thread.

Between 40K and SW, specifically, this varies only based on the theme of the board you're posting on. Because this is a 40K site, then the Imperium wins. If this were a Star Wars site, then the GE would win.

Mainly because there are a great many things that one has to take for granted within the setting and then try to force them into fitting into the other setting, or not, but by discarding those aspects, you are imbalancing the battle in favor of one side or another.

These sorts of threads are, basically, the most circular of internet circle jerks, and fail to be entertaining or insightful after page 2 at the most.

They also crop up on these boards once every couple of months. It's always someone's first time, I guess.

It really isn't a who would win? thread. It is more of a discussion of different strategic assets.

That being said, Babylon 5 would win.

Orks

 raiden wrote:
Orks

NO YOU PANZY GIT ITZ GOING TOOO B EVIL SUNZ ORKZ DO YA WANT DA DEFFSKULLZ TO TAK DA CRIDET!!!?!WAAAAAAGH!

Da krimson barun wrote:

 raiden wrote:
Orks

NO YOU PANZY GIT ITZ GOING TOOO B EVIL SUNZ ORKZ DO YA WANT DA DEFFSKULLZ TO TAK DA CRIDET!!!?!WAAAAAAGH!

SHUD ET YA "UMIE LIKE GIT WEZ ALL KNOWZ DAT DA BLOODAXES IS DA BESTEST AN DA STRONGEST AND DA TOUGHEST! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Goodness, I was just trying to cleverly mock the poor portrayal of the troopers from the original trilogy.

Yep, for all of the political and "science is a religion" reasons, the Imperium, as we should all know, would be a terrible place to live, whereas most other eras of Star Wars would be much preferable.

...Is it just me, or do I want to hear stormtroopers shout: "HERESY!" when they shoot at people in the films?

 IHateNids wrote:
*snip*

Will the power field on a power weapon stop a Lightsabre? Will Bolts pierce Stormtrooper armour?

Please for the love of all that is Holy, by George Lucas, Ray Bradbury, Isaac Assimov, Aaron Dembski-Bowden and any other great scifi writer's names whom I may invoke, let this be a thing. Someone do a drawing of a grizzled Space Marine Captain in power armor and cloak with a power sword dueling with a Jedi knight as Republic Troopers blast away at Space Marines and they return disciplined volleys of fire in the background. I would pay multitudes of moneys for a print of that to hang on my wall.

I remember a few years ago. There was a drawing, pretty good too, of Luke dueling with a Dark Angel Librarian.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I remember a few years ago. There was a drawing, pretty good too, of Luke dueling with a Dark Angel Librarian.

Meh. Luke was a whiny brat.

Well, I can't find what I was looking for, so instead I'll just post this.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I remember a few years ago. There was a drawing, pretty good too, of Luke dueling with a Dark Angel Librarian.

Also, these:

all 3 of you, have an exalt.


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but unfortunately I have to say the luke vs libby pic seems to have been made by a SW fan. Luke just feels more baddass In that drawing. maybe its the armor and cape. power sword>lightsaber tho

Luke *is* more bad-ass than some random Libby, though.

oo found this one, not as epic but hey.

 Psienesis wrote:
Luke *is* more bad-ass than some random Libby, though.

hmm. indeed, wanna see Ezikiel vs luke haha

There is also this:

There was a picture I'd seen once, split , with Anakin on top, Luke on the bottom.

Anakin: But Obi-Wan, I'm the Chosen One. I'm supposed to be special.
Luke: But Uncle Owen, I was going to go to Toshe Station to pick up some power converters
At least now we know where he gets it from.

Spetulhu wrote:
I'd have to hand the initial advantage to the GE - they have incredibly fast travel even if it's more risky for them without charted, pre-set routes. They also have instant galaxy-wide communications with the holonet, though they'd probably have to start seeding relays. And some pretty staggering production capacity if needed... the Death Star was built in secret (so the manpower and materials wasn't noted as missing) and in only a few years.

What I can't see is any reason for them to start trouble at all. Exploration beyond the known areas of the Old Republic has long been discouraged, and the armed forces are used more for policing their own systems than anything else. In a way they're stretched as thin as the IoM.

The IoM communication and travel depends on the astronomican, which has a rather short range(doesnt reach the eastern fringes)

At least the GE FTL tech can work anywhere, if it needs some set up. The IoM could never travel into GE space as they would not be able to navigate.


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 Happyjew wrote:
It really isn't a who would win? thread. It is more of a discussion of different strategic assets.

That being said, Babylon 5 would win.

....
I guess shadow vessels never miss

 raiden wrote:
all 3 of you, have an exalt.


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but unfortunately I have to say the luke vs libby pic seems to have been made by a SW fan. Luke just feels more baddass In that drawing. maybe its the armor and cape. power sword>lightsaber tho

Nah, the Libby is about to set his hand on Luke's forehead. And either zap him with lightning or just pulp his skull with his natural strength.

 Psienesis wrote:
Luke *is* more bad-ass than some random Libby, though.

He is more "powerful", I'm not sure about more "badass".

I'm not a fan of Luke or his incredibly hilarious power creep in the EU.

I'm not a fan of the power-creep of Space Marines between their Codices, BL novels and video games.