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Amazing. I'm eager to give this game a serious, serious go. Any idea when FRP games will move this from "preorder" to shipping, for American buyers?




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So what are these, and at the price, would they be a good buy to bulk up some forces?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Street-Gang-Miniature-Set-MEGA-CITY-ONE-GAME-MGP7051-Wargame-Models-/300913258677?pt=Games_US&hash=item460fd3f0b5

Thanks for posting that judgedoug

 judgedoug wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Have to be honest, Chopper doesn't look a lot like his character in the comics.. :(

It's spot on for his first appearance

Ah.. minus nerd points for me, didn't realise there was an older design for Chopper.

I thought it would be this, possibly one of the most well regarded stories to ever come out of 2000AD (have the graphic novel for this, and it is fething brilliant - try and get hold of it if you haven't read it!)

 chris_valera wrote:

£75 for 18 rather average metal miniatures. Yes, it includes a large size rulebook, but knowing Mongoose you can get them in a year off ebay for peanuts when Mongoose abandons the game wholesale in favor of hyping the next big thing to sucker gamers out of their hard-earned money.
I'll probably get those super-discounted GoMC1 gang figures from Troll and Toad that have been on steep discount for the past year or so.
It's not complaining, like a lot of people, I'm really hesitant about giving Mongoose any more of my money.
They never seem to learn.

Well, you're pretty clearly not interested or their target market. You bitch about them not being in plastic, then you bitch because you expect to find this stuff on clearance in a year's time. Clearly this game/Mongoose are Not For You.

Foundry has some nice Dredd Models in Metal. "Street gang" models of all sorts are easy to come by. Go buy those and house-rule some Necromunda or something?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Amazing. I'm eager to give this game a serious, serious go. Any idea when FRP games will move this from "preorder" to shipping, for American buyers?

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So what are these, and at the price, would they be a good buy to bulk up some forces?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Street-Gang-Miniature-Set-MEGA-CITY-ONE-GAME-MGP7051-Wargame-Models-/300913258677?pt=Games_US&hash=item460fd3f0b5

Those are the older Gangs of Mega City One plastic gangers. They are kinda soft details but are great for using as civilians (the weapons are separate) or for bulking up gangs.
They are actually on clearance at Troll and Toad for 4.99 per box - http://www.trollandtoad.com/p164200.html

Good old Warlord Games has two new items up for download: A rules primer and a roster sheet, thank Grudd!

You can find both here: http://www.warlordgames.com/40735/free-downloads-judge-dredd-get-you-started-ebook-and-roster-sheet/

Or for those drokkers who keep telling us we should know better..

Primer: http://warlordgames.com/downloads/pdf/jdrulesprimer.pdf

Roster: http://warlordgames.com/downloads/pdf/jdroster.pdf

Going halvesies with a mate on this starter box.

Splitting the painting too, half the Judges and half the Gang each. We'll agree on a scheme but then do our own take on it.

Hopefully thsi means I'll actually get a game or two in, as someone else will be as invested in it as I am!

Dredd, like X-Wing, could be a good access game for mates that aren't really in to miniature gaming but like these IPs.

The starter box is also a decent start for the Mega City One forces if you want to re-enact the Apocalypse War with the forthcoming Rogue Trooper rules. Unfortunately East Meg sold seperately.

We're also thinking of using the beta rules to try out the Rogue Trooper skirmish variant, with small Nort and South forces represented as gangs using the JDMG rules. Might even put them up against some Judges.

On a related note, anyone got any favourite 500 credit campaign starter teams?

Zond wrote:
The starter box is also a decent start for the Mega City One forces if you want to re-enact the Apocalypse War with the forthcoming Rogue Trooper rules. Unfortunately East Meg sold seperately.

We're also thinking of using the beta rules to try out the Rogue Trooper skirmish variant, with small Nort and South forces represented as gangs using the JDMG rules. Might even put them up against some Judges.

On a related note, anyone got any favourite 500 credit campaign starter teams?

2 Judges and a psi judge. Literally the cheapest starter of any game I can think of. $22.50 RRP + free rules. Just as much as some of the finecast models out there.

 judgedoug wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Amazing. I'm eager to give this game a serious, serious go. Any idea when FRP games will move this from "preorder" to shipping, for American buyers?

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So what are these, and at the price, would they be a good buy to bulk up some forces?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Street-Gang-Miniature-Set-MEGA-CITY-ONE-GAME-MGP7051-Wargame-Models-/300913258677?pt=Games_US&hash=item460fd3f0b5

Those are the older Gangs of Mega City One plastic gangers. They are kinda soft details but are great for using as civilians (the weapons are separate) or for bulking up gangs.
They are actually on clearance at Troll and Toad for 4.99 per box - http://www.trollandtoad.com/p164200.html

Is it worth buying > 1 box ? Are the sprues diverse enough to create 24 different models or would you end up with repeats ? And are multiple versions of the same model useful in the game ?

snaggled wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Amazing. I'm eager to give this game a serious, serious go. Any idea when FRP games will move this from "preorder" to shipping, for American buyers?

Automatically Appended Next Post:
So what are these, and at the price, would they be a good buy to bulk up some forces?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Street-Gang-Miniature-Set-MEGA-CITY-ONE-GAME-MGP7051-Wargame-Models-/300913258677?pt=Games_US&hash=item460fd3f0b5

Those are the older Gangs of Mega City One plastic gangers. They are kinda soft details but are great for using as civilians (the weapons are separate) or for bulking up gangs.
They are actually on clearance at Troll and Toad for 4.99 per box - http://www.trollandtoad.com/p164200.html

Is it worth buying > 1 box ? Are the sprues diverse enough to create 24 different models or would you end up with repeats ? And are multiple versions of the same model useful in the game ?

I own 20 boxes There's two sprues, each with 6 legs, (3 designs) 10 torsos (5 designs) and I think about 8 heads and a bunch of arms and weapons, plus shoulder pads and other little bits. They are totally worth getting a couple boxes of, if you'd like some random civilians wandering around. As I've said, they are not the highest quality, but they do the job. Plus they've got some generic rifles and pistol weapons which are always good for anything.

And you can use spare weapons from your Wargames Factory male and female zombie hunter boxes to augment them.

Those aren't bad at all. For the essentially free price (by our hobby standards) I just snagged two boxes.

Thanks guys!

Incidentally... tried hyping the game up amongst some local, hardcore gamer, friends, and it is funny... These folks are generally knowledgable, but I was met with a bunch of, "Mongoose makes cool games, but abandons them..." comments.

There must be a real messaging gap. It took my explaining the Warlord Games connection before I got a few folks to give them game a try, with me.

I just tell people that Warlord Games is doing Judge Dredd these days, works better.

Well, i'll definitely be doing it from now on. I'll be running a few promo games this weekend while the wife is out of town, using some proxies and the starter rules.

Today i'm painting up three Dark Angels on motorcycles as stand-in Judges on bikes. ;-)

So, still without having read the rules, I now have about 20 Punks/Juvies of various kinds coming, and then the Starter Box. :-p

It's a fun rule set, so kudos to Mongoose for that.

Like I said, I haven't heard a lot about it, but whenever something is said, it is generally glowing.

And I SOOOOO need a great skirmish game with scalability. Malifaux just turned so sour around here, and is only now slowly rebuilding. Meanwhile WM/H is loved, but still leaves room for something with 4-10 models per player.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Those aren't bad at all. For the essentially free price (by our hobby standards) I just snagged two boxes.

Thanks guys!

Incidentally... tried hyping the game up amongst some local, hardcore gamer, friends, and it is funny... These folks are generally knowledgable, but I was met with a bunch of, "Mongoose makes cool games, but abandons them..." comments.

There must be a real messaging gap. It took my explaining the Warlord Games connection before I got a few folks to give them game a try, with me.

Oh its true. Mongoose has had some issues in the past, but this game in particular was a pretty good upswing from thier past experiences.

I'm one that had a pretty good hate on for them, almost to the point of ignoring the KS and this game completely. The way in which they turned themselves around, and Matt coming over and taking some heat rounds and doing as well as could be as expected with that project has given me a little hope that they have started getting thier stuff together in terms of thier games.

THIS game in particular is one of my favorites, even a bit more then the old Starship troopers one was. Not to mention, its Dredd.

Still waiting on the vehicles, but as to the figures, there have been some issues with the distribution, but they seem to have that under control now.


The GOMC1 sets are a steal, but be warned- they take a special kind of love to get them up on the table and presentable.

And patience. the plastic is kinda gak and takes some extra care to put them together.

No worries. I also have the eight punks/juvies in the upcoming starter set, so i'm looking at the GOMC1 sets as virtually throw away fodder/civillians, etc... I mean... seriously, shipped they cost me $15 for two sets. :-p

I wish I was around for the Dredd Kickstarter. I would've loved to be involved since Day 1. As it stands, unable to wait for the starter set to come out, i'm tempted to buy the rules E-book.

That all said... the vehicles are the only thing making my head spin. One manta tank pre-order is listed as $150. OUCH. I can't wrap my head around that one, when I bought some huge Dust Warfare vehicles for $25.


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Incidentally, an opportunity just popped up to go play a few demo games. I suppose i'll post in a few hours and give some impressions for fellow noobies. :-)

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
No worries. I also have the eight punks/juvies in the upcoming starter set, so i'm looking at the GOMC1 sets as virtually throw away fodder/civillians, etc... I mean... seriously, shipped they cost me $15 for two sets. :-p

I wish I was around for the Dredd Kickstarter. I would've loved to be involved since Day 1. As it stands, unable to wait for the starter set to come out, i'm tempted to buy the rules E-book.

That all said... the vehicles are the only thing making my head spin. One manta tank pre-order is listed as $150. OUCH. I can't wrap my head around that one, when I bought some huge Dust Warfare vehicles for $25.

It's absolutely huge, and solid resin. And honestly it's like 900 credits and you'd only ever use it in a special scenario, not in your gang

One quick question, based on the primer rules...

What are the gear costs?

The Punks/Juves in the starter-rules get 75/50 credits worth of gear, but the .pdf doesn't have any gear costs listed.

Help?


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Edit: Fair warning... there are TWO rules primers floating around between Mongoose/Warlord's sites. One is missing costs, etc... and a second is a more update primer with the essential info.


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Hey folks... So, a few hours, and a few games later, and I feel justifiably sold on this game. If the game plays this well, and is this fun with such basic options, I can only imagine how good it will be with a LOT more flavor, etc... and the full/advanced rules.

Definitely one of the fastest playing, and most visceral skirmish games I have ever played, and yet Judges felt likes Judges, etc... It was easy to play in faction/character, which I think speaks to that weird, wonderful thing when rules/theme align just right in a game.

Also, a player had some of the Gangs of Mega-City One punks sets, and I have to say, their hideousness is grossly over-rated. He had a good 20-30 of them padding his collection/gang, and with a quick 'n dirty paint job, he had them looking characterful, and setting appropriate, and likewise, pretty diverse. I haven't see the sprues, but his 30 odd guys all looked fairly unique from one another.

Considering they can be had for under $8.00 US per set of twelve, I RAN home and ordered two more sets. The wife tends to play horde armies, and loves punk-aesthetics. Methinks putting 40 of these guys in front of her, with a great, simple rule-set, will have it see the table often.

I don't know... This thread started with some exceptional negativity from a few folks, but I am liking the minis i've seen well enough for their prices, and LOVE the rules.

This one feels like a big winner.

 Grot 6 wrote:

I'm one that had a pretty good hate on for them, almost to the point of ignoring the KS and this game completely. The way in which they turned themselves around, and Matt coming over and taking some heat rounds and doing as well as could be as expected with that project has given me a little hope that they have started getting thier stuff together in terms of thier games.

To be fair, I think we have always been good with our games - it was the miniatures side of things that let us (and you) down. We have now handed off _all_ our miniatures production to third parties - Dredd is being done by Warlord, Star Fleet by ADB, and Victory at Sea by Ainsty, all Good People, as they say.

Leaving us with game system and miniatures design. Best of all worlds, we hope!

Well, having no history with you guys, and no "dog in the fight" as they say, I can only speak to my first impressions of JDMG... and as you can see above, I have nothing but good things to say.

Its an incredible game even from primer-rules level experiences, and I can see all the places where it must really shine with full rules.

Incidentally, can anyone give me the rough credit cost/abilities of a Judge on a Lawmaster? I'm trying to figure out how many to order/paint, and I don't have my rule-book until Christmas. :-(

A Lawmaster is 150, so your standard starting Street Judge on the bike is 300. The Lawmaster packs a Twin Bike Cannon and the Cyclops Laser Cannon, and also comes with a scattergun for the Judge to use. As the hero levels up and becomes a better driver and picks the driving talents, you become more more proficient at dodging hits, able to do drive by boots to the face and drive by shotguns, and wheelie melee attacks of doom.

Oh wow. So the Lawmaster is a piece of gear.

I've got more conventional gaming going on in my imagination, where the Judge on Bike IS a unit unto itself.

So, if we intend to play, say 750pt - 1000pt games (Is that a good "medium" size?) would it be worth having a Lawmaster per Judge?

I looked at the Primer rules, and liked what I saw, so ordered the Starter Set. Bing impatient, I also got the e-book rules.

I'm loving the campaign rules. I spent many years playing Necromunda back in the day, and this reminds me of that a lot!

Can't wait for order to arrive now...

Gah.... I'm thinking I might need the Ebook too. Christmas is just so far away, and i'll be receiving and painting models by next weekend...

My only hope is that Deadzone ships so i'm thoroughly distracted.

Any other rule-book impressions?

I'll need to give it a good read - I just jumped to the campaign section this time.

Well, keep me posted as you might get Mongoose another "double dip" customer. ;-)

Meanwhile, I just ordered a bunch of scale cars, trucks, etc... for urban terrain purposes. In my head they have double-value as they're for Deadzone and Judge Dredd... but lets be realistic.... they're for Judge Dredd. :-p

I used Antenociti's Workshop vehicles, as they're nice and cheap and look great!

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/antenocitis/g-o-t-vehicles-1.html