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1. What do you plan to use this caps for?
2. But you don't tell me how Marcus know the Legion will not last should Caesar passed away? OK He's 1st generation smart Super Mutant (Possibly a vault born man who either nabbed or joined the Master at some point in his life) but to know that Caesar is the only man in the Legion who's able to hold everyone there together is SPECIAL thing.
Inside the Legion itself, no one opposes Caesar but the top leaders below him are plotting against each other. known rivals are Lanius the second legate, and Vulpes Incuta the Frumentarii leader. so who else in the Legion will be ready to lead his cohort / centuria against each other inside the Legion should Caesar dies?
3. Is there any possibility that NCR can spy on the Legion? since the entire organization is martial society and no known Legionairy joined the Legion by choice. Legionaires are either reconditioned tribesmen or just like 40k Cadians.. raised to become a legionaire. on the other hand the drafted NCR troops can be easily spied upon by any noob Frumentario , and even in Camp McCarran, an NCR officier is a Frumentarius (only to be exposed by interrogating a POW named Silus, and later, surveileance on an NCR officier in question)
4. Did Silus wants to defect? he seems to know that the Legion leadership suffers cranial illness (??)

Marcus i9s smart enough to know Ceasar is the one holding it all together. Once he dies, then the Legion tribals go back to their bickering and fall apart as Ceasar and few hand picked men held it together, kept it going, Ceasar is the glue that binds them.

I have a question for you. I don't have much experience with sculpting but I want to try and put some Fallout style combat armor on some of my Human 40k models (Guardsmen mostly.) Do you have any tips you can give me? Thanks.

Righto, I need to make a lot of these things, so here's yesterday's batch of caps.



That's Nuka Cola Fusion (Luck points) at the top and Victory (...Victory points) at the bottom. Oh, and a little Sunset Sarsaparilla cap that has a secret.



I'll need to make a few star caps as I wouldn't put it past people to learn the particular weathering on the objective marker. After these next up are a batch of Quantum caps to represent Audience Appreciation tokens. I'll probably just stick with a dozen, despite the maximum available in a four player game being twenty four, as well I just can't be arsed this second making that many of the same design. =P

Along with the caps I stuck together two of Messyart's Centaurs that the Super Mutant side in my game'll need (they're white resin, so the picture quality's crap). The one on the left's using parts from Games Workshop Chaos Forsaken rather than the standard torso so I can have a bit of variety. The right one's built as is however, bar greenstuffing up some gaps and adding a few more tentacles to the mouth (I've since removed the extended skull and one of the tentacles to keep it more in line with the original model, youknow so people can see what they're buying if they want one themselves). Both are now basecoated and due some paint, and I've decided to go for a reddy brown colour on the Forsaken one, and a regular pink on the Fallout 3 style one.



There's a shack too that I'm tidying up a bit. Hopefully I'll have the time to finish it with all the other crap I need to work on. Its kind of a corner shop style thing with plenty of windows and a roof which I originally made to be a sort of bolt hole for zombie games (uh, if people can barricade all the windows that is). Hopefully I can finish off that tonight before I wind up having to spend all day tomorrow at college, though at least its almost summer which means I'll be burning through the pile of toys that've been sitting in a corner all year

@ Lone Cat

The caps are a stand in for the tokens used in the game 7Tv (which I'm using an adapted ruleset of for my games). There's specific caps for each of the 7Tv expansions, so I guess having bottle caps instead of cardboard tokens fits in with the Fallout series more.

Like shasolenzabi said Marcus has the intuition to know the Legion's following a man, not an ideology. That either down to working that out himself, being he is pretty damn old), or from talking to others.Oh, and remember, we don't even know the sex of any other Super Mutants bar Lily.

If Caesar dies then the whole organisation will fall apart. Even if Lanius leads it for a few years, the guy's just too self destructive to keep it together. So with the death of their leader the Legion will break away into separate groups under whoever has the power to pull together enough men. So it may be that anyone that holds onto the Legion's ideals would be murdered by their former brothers, or some remnant of the Legion would remain. Whatever happens, unless the Legion wins the Second Battle of Hoover Damn the whole group's finished in its current guise, and if the Hounds of Hecate make a move to exploit this, there won't be much left of it soon enough.

The final fight in the Legion's arena is against an NCR ranger who was spying on them. Yes, given that the NCR are a competent military force, I'd think that they have agents within Legion territory, and perhaps even a few inside the group itself (though that's a particularly difficult thing because of how they recruit, but you never know). Remember that in the Legion's territory there are many townships that are under their protection, so its not as if you have to be in the Legion to be able to spy on it.

Silus didn't defect he just though that committing suicide wouldn't benefit the Legion. He believes that the Legion's mantra isn't practical, though still upholds it where he can. Him being captured was in his eyes a way of strengthening the Legion as he thought that he'd be freed by the spy in the camp, so he could just sit there gathering information and effecting the NCR's moral until that happened. Of course the Legion's higher up aren't too happy that the guy didn't follow his orders and thinks that he's smarter than him, so I'm guessing they don't give a damn about him (though he's better off dead so he can't spill his secrets).

@ Bronzefists42

Oh with Cadians in particular I'd suggest scraping away most of the existing armour so that whatever you sculpt on doesn't look massive. I don't use any fancy sculpting tools, rather a set of cocktail sticks and some needles do the job just fine (though I'll point out that the Legion Lady model was done with needles, all the other were just half blunt cocktail sticks). I'm a amateurish sculptor myself, so I don't know how much I can say that'll help really (its my goal over the summer to improve a lot though). Just put together less greenstuff than you need, or you can find that there's stuff left over in the end that'll either be wasted or find its way onto another model giving you more work. If you're going for something based off of the Fallout games explicitly then I'd suggest going on the Fallout wiki or either of the Nexus mod sites for full angles on the armour sets from the games, or look up some of Fallout 3's concept art (I've posted a link a site that hosted the full set previously, but you can turn it up quickly with Google). Ah, and personally I find the Games Workshop models to have ridiculous proportions, so there's always the Wargames Factory Americans if you're just wanting human sized models to use as armatures. Repeatedly sculpting the same design can be a chore though, so unless you keep it simple or do them in batches, the quality level may dip a bit (I tend to make models that look different from one another instead of ones which have a standardised uniform because of this). ...And watch the blue part of greenstuff. The yellow part isn't too sticky, but remember to properly put away the blue part otherwise you'll come back later to find its stuck to something and you'll need to take a chisel to it to take it off. =P
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Thanks. It's only a few models that I have to do for a dark heresy game.

Ah, well that's going to be much easier. Still, I would say you're probably better off just buying in some other company's sci fi models if you're wanting a better variety than GW can offer. Then again with a sizeable bits pile you can probably achieve similar results. Meh, maybe I'm just biased as the GW models. ^^

Taarnak has a sculpting thread in which he made a set of Combat Armour too btw. He's a much better sculptor, so maybe his greens will give you a better idea on how to go about sculpting up a set of that armour yourself. His is based on a Wargames Factory Survivor rather than the GIs mine are.

Oh! That followed the death of real Caesar. after Ides of March. the Roma Republic divided amongs councilmen and warlords... including Mark Anthony (also flirted Cleopatra), Brutus, and Octavius Caesar... (he who Cleopatra shunned). Lucky for them, there's no other superpower big enough to crush the Romans nearby (the capable power could be Qin Empire, but it was too far away to be any threat)
too bad if Mr. House or Yes Man wins. the Hectate faction will finish 'em off but will it brings back Midwest Brotherhood too?

And tell me about Hounsd of Hecate (and her faction).
- Are they Greco roman themed? Their theme colour?
- Do they know anything about New California Republic? if so, do they like or hate NCR?
- Their Karma
- Their opinion towards Mormons
- Their opinion towards New Vegas... do they have any bid to annex a city?
- Their opinion towards BoS
- Their tech policy
- Their size, and territory

And oh! the REAL Hecate is a mother to Schylla. a monster that gaves name to Sicily--Home to the Mafia we known today.
Oh! Give me a list of similarities and differences between European Gendarmerie and NCR Rangers.

Well I've had a go at the first two (out of four) Centaurs that which Messyart made. The first one's an as is model (bar some extra tentacles), whereas, for something a bit different, the second has its upper body based on parts from the Games Workshop Chaos Forsaken kit. I needed two Centaurs to join the Super Mutant side in my upcoming game, so I bashed these out as best I could given the lack of time. Unfortunately taking pictures of them was a bit of a bother ...somehow, but hopefully I can sort that out with the next two.




Bubba as ever standing about for scale. Both Centaurs are mounted on 50mm based.

With those done I just have some more bottle caps to work on and to tidy up the shack I'm painting. That's all based on how much time I have tomorrow though, as I'm going to be fairly short on that between being at college and turning up at my club (I still need to type up and print off all the rules, eugh, and box all of the terrain), so I'll see what happens. Anyway, toodles.

@ Lone Cat

I'm considering the Mid West Brotherhood to not be a threat if they still even exist at all, otherwise the Legion would have made more of a thing about them in their dialogue. Tactics is semi canon and none of the devs want to touch that property directly unfortunately. I doubt any of the Vegas factions would pursue the Legion. House is using the stalemate to flourish, so having the Legion destroyed would remove potential business partners, as would it strip any kind of order in the eastern territories. Canonically I expect that the Legion didn't do too well during the events of New Vegas, and ultimately I'm assuming that Caesar will die at some point, be that at the hands of the Courier, his own men, or to his ailments (heh, or supposedly his tumour, I wouldn't put it past an assassin to use that an excuse).

The Hounds of Hecate are formed from those tribes that didn't want to be absorbed into the Legion. Their leader was from the same tribe that Ulysses was. She didn't know that anyone else survived, and after fleeing into desert, she was eventually found by an Ai. The Ai told her a story, but the tribal Hecate misunderstood its meaning and inferred that the woman in the story was her, and that she was in fact a god that fated to rule the world. Those that fought the Legion needed a figurehead, and she became that to them. The Hounds of Hecate emphasise all those tribal aspects that the Legion tried to burn away. If anything I'd say they were based on South American tribals, given that Hecate resides in a ziggurat of scrap metal and they carry out human sacrifice. As far as karma goes I'd say they were neutral/evil, but that's all based on their perspective. I mean the choice they have is abandon their culture and join the Legion, or to become fighters capable of taking on the Legion on even footing. Size wise I don't think that's something that was stated, but they're much smaller than the Legion, but their settlements aren't nearly as widespread, which means their a tough nut to crack. The faction is made up of tribals, so as far as technology goes they're a fairly low level, and given that they believe in spirits that inhabit technology like many tribals, I doubt they would trust advanced tech. In regards to New Vegas I'd expect that that's well outside of their concerned. They're concerned about fighting the Legion, so to them the battle for the city is something to seize upon. I'd expect any conflict in the west would free up Legion forces around Hecate's land, something she would exploit, and with the ultimate death of Caesar, the Hounds may wind up seizing a lot of territory and members.

Gendarmerie are men at arms, so whilst the Rangers are a paramilitary force I don't know if the word has the same connotations. Its not a term in common use here, nor does Britain even have any. As far as the Rangers go I'd say they were similar to one though. I mean they recruit from a civilian population (though in recent times, based on NCR trooper chatter, they recruit from the military often) and act outside the military chain of command, though they can be sequestered to a military officer. The Rangers have a loose mandate, but yes, amongst their duties is establishing law and order in the NCR territories, though in a more frontier justice manner than established law forces (the NCR have marshals in their townships, and presumably an established police force in their larger cities). However as the NCR is a somewhat disorganised nation its probably difficult to keep the government's influence consistent throughout its settlements, so a force like the Rangers are required to act outside the regular, more fixed, law enforcement bodies. However I'd relate the Rangers more to the actual 19th century American Marshal and Ranger organisations rather than any European group, as really those are the groups that the NCR rangers developed from (the group amalgamated the lawmen of the NCR's annexed territories into one consistent group, though that's not to say they didn't include just about anyone from any walk of life, nor anyone willing to take up a badge).

Ah and I had a discussion about the Hounds and the Legion somewhat in this thread somehow. If you're interested in fluff you can read through my eight hundred word long posts in that and maybe get an insight into my perspective over the Legion faction in particular and its motives. Just though that was worth mentioning given how often fluff is discussed here (and well because I wrote some long as hell posts in there which someone must find useful, if only to call me out for some reason or other).

Good work on the centaurs. Nice alterations to the non-standard one.

They are looking a bit brown though.
Not bad or wrong, just not the fleshy pink I was expecting.

The camera's made them appear a bit dark yellow for some reason, but the pink one is in fact a pinky brown (erring towards pink), not just straight brown. Yeah, I said I screwed up with the pictures.

Ah, and the brown one is an orange brown as I want that one to look a bit tougher than the others in case I need a leader model for the group. The other two will be a whitish pink probably.

First up two mercenaries wearing combat armour. The one on the left has the standard desert suit, whilst the beardy guy has the un-camouflaged US army version (found in Lonesome Road/the original games).



And now for something completely different... Two fine lasses wearing the latest in Wasteland fashion. Both are Wargames Factory zombie models (ah the mercs are WgF GIs btw. Ack, acronyms) with Brother Vinni heads and a load of greenstuff sculpted over them.The one on the left is wearing Painspike, whilst the other has Badlands on (I didn't emulate that one quite as well as the former).



Raider Blastmaster armour too. Again the bits are mostly from Wargames Factory with the odd other company piece thrown in (the heads are Maxi Mini ones).



All and all I don't think the Raiders turned out too bad. The mercs are a wee bit dark, but I'm not too fussed about that. I'd like to put together a little gang of Raiders based off of all the armour sets from Fallout 3 and the Pitt (well the good ones anyway), though I think I'd be happy with just a few more to sculpt up. On that note I have been looking at the Marked Men a bit for the prospect of making some, but I don't know quite how relevant those would be for my games, despite their interesting designs. Hmn, perhaps I should be sticking to things that can be used in any other game than specific locations, or would noticeable characters like those be more appealing?

And well here's a picture of what's going to be worked on in the immediate future:



Shall I run through that all? Yeah, may as well, otherwise that's all just little grey things to you folks. Well as part of my latest batch of stuff from Messyart he threw in some miscast flies,que me making another stall to go with my existing market items dubbed "fly bites". Next there's all those crates and boxes. I don't know what logo will go on the boxes, but I'll mix the crates between Nuka Cola and Sunset Sarsaparilla like the ones in the games. Ah, and in the back are the land mines and crucifixes I made which will definitely be painted and won't just sit on my table for weeks... Plus just the usual half painted crap that needs to be worked on at some point. Yup, a riveting local as always.

With that lot done that's me for the day. I'll be pulling a shift tomorrow so I probably won't be able to get much done other than basing that load of terrain and maybe giving it a basecoat (depending on how much I can be arsed to do that is). Anyhow, toodle pip.

All looking great, never have enough boxes/crates.

Nice work on the various raiders and mercs.

Is it the photos again, or do your models occasionally have a glossy finish?

Everybody should have as many boxes as possible.

Nah its the models, I just forgot to highlight that lot enough so the ink I used to wash them give them that glossy appearance. Yeah, matt varnish is on my shopping list to deal with that problem (its been mentioned elsewhere, though it isn't noticeable in real life).

As I'm bothering to respond to comments on a day when I haven't finished anything, have a WIP that I'm working on. The photo's a bit crap as the thing's still drying and the head kept slouching (that and I'm a crap photographer), so bear with me till I actually bother my arse to finish the sculpting before a decent picture turns up. What is it? Huh, well someone asked Messyart to make a Floater model. He responded by saying "why'd you want a model of a piece of crap?". I pegged in and made an actual Fallout Floater model just to be a git. The dark world of back street miniature sculpting folks.



Ah, but if I can fit one in I'll stick in one of Dr H's lovely toilets onto the base just for giggles. ^^'

Yeah, cameras do tend to pick up on the residual glossiness that doesn't show IRL. Just one of the joys of miniature photography.

Good floater
lol, do it.

Well here's what I've been working on instead of painting more dollies.



What's that? Uh, well it was supposed to be the start of a modular military bunker tileset, but... well I can't be bothered casting up copies of it right now so its just going to be a little non-modular building. The plan's to have it being 3x4 with the floor having a grated edge (as shown) and the middle bit being made from concrete flanked by two pillars. There'll also be one of those collapsing floor hatch things (like the one in Smith Casey's Garage in Fallout 3), as these things always seem to have a hidden basement. I have a radio tower from Fenris Games coming in the post right now, so this'll serve as the control building for that (whether I make specific techy furniture is undecided, but I already have loads of generic stuff handy that's unpainted), and will go along with a set of mesh fencing plus a generator I have from Ainsty.

The Floater's also had a bit more work done on it too. Now it has a lovely slobbering tongue, as did I smooth out its ...torso(?) a little. There's a toilet on the base now too for... reasons.



Right, now off to my club for a shopping trip.

Out of curiosity what models did you use as the basis for the Legion and raider models? I want to try building some of them for an RPG I'm playing.


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Also awesome floater.

@ Bronzefists42

Which Legion models? If you're meaning the older Legion Recruit ones then they're Warlord, and well if any of the other lot too I have the source models listed in the same post they're included in. So... I mean which models are you referring too, as I have a few Legion models and they're all from different sources. Actually I'll be replacing most my older Legion models once Wargames Factory release their Native American models probably, so you might be interested whenever I get around to converting those.

The Raiders are based on various Wargames Factory Plastics (again I've listed the source models where I posted them), but I've used a lot of greenstuff on them and bits from other kits (which I probably noted as well). Heh, I try and say which models I use wherever I can just in case anyone's curious.

Tonight I picked up a few bits and pieces for Fallout. Not to bore you with every exact purchase I'll just run through the highlights. Well amongst the pile is about, I donno, eighty loose AKs and M16 variants that I kind of swooned over when I saw them (they're such a bugger to find with any decent quality). What must be hundreds of West Wind Secrets of the Third Reich heads. A Set of Telegraph poles (25mm, so a wee bit small, but not entirely tiny). Some kind of sci fi bar scenery and Ainsty castings style interior terrain (its not by him though). Oh, and a Corgi three wheeler, which are hellish to find, let alone buy (and I was given it for free!), which I'm really chuffed about (one of my friends found it in a box of old Batman cars just as I was about to leave the club tonight. Those Batman cars are probably worth loads, but the same goes for everything else that was being sold tonight, so I couldn't give a toss).



Also... I'm trading a copy of the boardgame Dark Future for some plasticville buildings. I could have bought the same buildings a few years ago for a pittance, but my git of a friend as usual flew in and picked them up just as I was about to pick them up (he did that like three times that same day). But whatever, their going to be mine now, so good times. I'll have them painted and posted within the year!

Well, for that New Vegas feel, zombie survivors have a nice bunch of spare weapons, AKs for "Chinese Assault Rifles" AR's for the NCR combat rifles, and also oddly enough the British Bull-pup rifles The SA-85? plus Uzis, sniper rifles, and shot-guns plus close combat weapons, the ladies get a RPG

Oh I could use the AKs and M16s as they're guns that're from the 50's-60's, but I doubt the SA80s would turn up in the fallout setting. I mean if I could find an EM-2 (a bullpup from 1951 which was to be the Commonwealth's battle rifle before Churchill said, "nah, use the FN FAL because everyone else is". Fifty years later we're using its 6.5 round and bullpup design all over the place. So yeah, as ever screw you Churchill) in 28mm, which I highly doubt, then I could easily use one, but well, I'm not making models for Fallout: Tactics (which used every and any gun pretty much).

Hmn... Digressed a little there. What? I have a thing for the EM-2 (I'd take a Galil over it any day though).

Want a progress update? You can't handle a progress update! ...Uh, which is me saying I've sat on my butt all day doing paperwork so not much has been worked on. Well, no, I have two models that will hopefully be painted tonight, a Ghoul cowboy (who looks mysteriously like Clint Eastwood...), and a female scavenger who I'm going to sculpt up a Wattz 1000 Laser Pistol for (though I'll probably get as far as sculpting that pistol and be distracted by something else before I paint anything).

Well, the bullpups could always go to a different project then.

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Nah its the models, I just forgot to highlight that lot enough so the ink I used to wash them give them that glossy appearance. Yeah, matt varnish is on my shopping list to deal with that problem (its been mentioned elsewhere, though it isn't noticeable in real life).

As I'm bothering to respond to comments on a day when I haven't finished anything, have a WIP that I'm working on. The photo's a bit crap as the thing's still drying and the head kept slouching (that and I'm a crap photographer), so bear with me till I actually bother my arse to finish the sculpting before a decent picture turns up. What is it? Huh, well someone asked Messyart to make a Floater model. He responded by saying "why'd you want a model of a piece of crap?". I pegged in and made an actual Fallout Floater model just to be a git. The dark world of back street miniature sculpting folks.



Ah, but if I can fit one in I'll stick in one of Dr H's lovely toilets onto the base just for giggles. ^^'

Tell me about Floater and how it comes to be. and why I don't see Floater in Fallout New Vegas meow (not sure if they still around in Utobitha if they are made of FEV)

@ shasolenzabi

Oh yeah its not like I couldn't find a use for spare guns. I mean I might have to make some modern stuff at some point (like Across the Dead Earth) and there I go having a load of British service rifles. Eugh, but the SA80 is an awful weapon in my eyes. I mean its workable, but I just hate how mediocre the thing is compared to other country's service rifles (that and its damn old). Heh, but I'll stop myself before I start blithering about how great the HK G36 and Tavor are. =P

@ Lone Cat

Floaters came about probably around the time the Master was randomly chucking things into the FEV vats to see what came out. They're created from mutated flatworms and consistently mutate that they can be produced in decent numbers (I doubt that its such an exact science as making a Super Mutant too). After the fall of the master and the second mutant army I doubt they were ever made again, and given that wasteland society barely tolerate Super Mutants most of the time, mindless creatures like Floaters and Centaurs were presumably culled are left to roam free by their former masters (well bar in groups like Utobitha). The Unity used them similarly to Centaurs, ie guard dogs and cannon fodder, but I don't think they were really produced in the same numbers (as you have to go out of your way to make a Floater, whereas Centaurs are what happens whenever an experiment failed, which I'm guessing happened a lot, especially in the post Master years).

They were supposed to be in Fallout: New Vegas, but were cut just before they had their models made (assets for them like stats and behaviour are still in the game, but they've been assigned a dummy model). Like the Centaurs they were supposed to come in both regular and evolved states. They were probably cut because, as ever, time constraints and that they used an animation style different from every other creature in the game. I suppose Centaurs are just more interesting creatures, so that's why Floaters, as well as other animals like pigrats and geckos, didn't make it into Fallout 3. That said there's at least two mods out there which add them back in (though sadly no pigrats or giant molerat ones). However they were planned at an early stage of Fallout 3, and came in a number of variants, but they wound up being cut like other creates from the original games such as Wanamingos, as well as tons of other Fallout 3 original creatures (like the Catfish mirelurk, or giving Mirelurk kings their own culture and armour sets, or hell the tons of failed FEV experiments that were supposed to inhabit the Super Mutant Vault-only one of which made it into the game, and without animations, though again mods fix this).



A day late, but still fresh (hey it hasn't grown that much mould so quit yer yabbering. Damn that stuff's a delicacy to some folks. Well the same types usually drink out of radioactive toilets, but I'm not one to judge dear Dakkaites).

The Ghoul with No Name (Artizan Wild West, and totally not a homage to the Good the Bad and The Ugly)



His head's a tad unintentionally large, but I didn't notice this until I actually looked at the photograph. I didn't actually realise this was a Clint Eastwood model originally. I mean he was out of his blister pack and headless, I just kind of thought it looked a bit like him. So, well I bought a load of zombie heads along with him and well put two and two together and this feller came about. He'll be joining the little corner of my collection made up of mercenaries and characterful types, alongside Bubba, Red Racer, Ser Jeremy the Chivalrous and well a few others I haven't told you lot about yet. I'm aiming to make my games more character based rather than set about the squad level as I don't think the ruleset really caters for it so well based on experience of running games of Fallout. I'll see what happens, but I'm sure this guy'll at least get a few sniggers the first time I pull him out.

And mien Floater



It turned out a little too big given I didn't actually have any reference shots of one next to a human, but overall I think I'm happy with it. I mean I had to interpret quite a bit of the details given how small the original assets are, and well they are twenty odd years old too, so could do with some updating, but I could've done worse. I guess this particular one's kind of a pack leader, mounted on its 40mm base and all, whereas the regular sized ones on 30mm bases would be its followers. Though I don't have much of an incling about what the "Evolved Floaters" that were cut from New Vegas would look like, bar being mounted on 50mm bases and having a ton of tumours and distended floater sacs about it. A project for another day perhaps (whenever the idea of having a FEV themed circus crops up).

A Corgi Heinkel Kabine bubble car that I managed to pick up for free along with some other stuff. It was bunged in with some old batman cars I didn't care about, though this thing I was all over (I didn't see it originally till one of my mates came over and showed it to me, then I kind of had to bite down on my own fist over how cool this thing is). Anyhow, this thing's just perfect for the setting.



Plus a Scavenger (EM-4 Miniatures, I think, might by Copplestone)



I swapped out the AK thing she originally had for a Wattz 1000 laser pistol which I sculpted myself. Its a little stubby (blame that on sculpting from memory), but it brings the model more in line with the setting more. Ah, and the pistol's not huge, she's just a small lady (like 5/4 or something).

Yup, Fallout: Heading East; the only painting and modelling blog on Dakka Dakka where you'll find a zombie Clint Eastwood, a mutated worm and a bubble car in a snazzy lime green and white colour scheme all in the same post. Hey at least I keep the content schizophrenically varied (hell I think I posted a killer fifth columnist assassin communist spy teddy bear robot hear once... Yeah that thing was a hoot in the one game I sprung that thing on the other players).

I'd planned to put more work into the radio shack thing, but unfortunately my order from Fenris games is a week late (I'm blaming the Royal Mail, not Fenris though) so that's gone to pot a bit. So I'll see what I can do elsewhere tonight. Bugger. =P

Good looking minis Wymalla, well the SA-80 is uniqu looking to us this side of the pond. I am so used to the AR-15/M-16 and the AK's are also pretty standard, but as they are robust and still workable to this day, much sought after by gun collectors.

So there would be use. Bullpup las rifles?

How fiece a floater can be? if Super Mutants used it as cannon fodder (similar to how Legion attacks its opponents... least prestigious units.. the recruits. in front. prime the second echelon, veterans the third order. and big guys like Centurion at the rear.) it means they aren't really dangerous compared to super mutants and other wasteland beasts.

@ shasolenzabi

Bullpup las rifles? What like the ones the Elysians have? Well Fallout's set around the period before bullpups became the mainstray with service rifles (well in the real world bullpups still aren't standardised because the Americans are still flooding the market with M-series guns), so I'm thinking that they wouldn't be used bar outside of special forces. I mean there were actually quite a few bullpups in the 50s, its just that they never made it off of the ground because NATA had everyone standardise and use the FN FAL and other countries like America and Russia (plus those they supplied) could make less radical rifles for less cash. Its a pity really as we're only getting around to implementing the developments of those rifles now really. I mean for one finally people have pegged on to use 6.5mm rounds. But to bring myself back on topic, guns derived from the bullpups from the 40-60s would fit right into the Fallout universe, its just unfortunate that none have so far. The style of the guns in Fallout are designed after weapons that didn't see much actual use (the NCR Service Rifle looks like an AR-15, but its actually based more on a little known variant used primarily by special forces in Vietnam, before it was dropped) ...though at 28mm scale such details aren't really obvious, so as long as the model looks like its carrying something relevant I think I can get away with little inconsistencies.

Heh, and the friends I have who've used both SA80s and AR-15s say they'd take the AR-15 any other day. The SA80 has more punch and is more robust to them, but the AR-15's like a toy gun, you just aim it and shoot, there's no recoil at all (well they were using Colt Canadas and a Norwegian variant actually, but they're the same base gun). So the SA80's a decent enough gun, and it fits its purpose, but they're just getting too old and the government doesn't want to spend the money upgrading or replacing them. Hell at least the army isn't as bad off as those regiments stationed on the crown principalities. I mean the Bermuda Regiment's still using L1A1s and Lee Enfield Mk1s, and has guns from WWI and older still in its armouries (though they're now swapping over the G36s and M4s, so I guess its not all bad). =/

@ Lone Cat

Oh I mean cannon fodder as in they're just mindless beasts that only really care about eating. A Super Mutant takes more effort to make, so the Unity forces would rather throw out the dregs like Floaters and Centaurs (and whatever other FEV creatures we never see) than have Super Mutants die. In the original games Floaters were there for the player to waste shots on instead of shooting the Super Mutants, as they'd quickly move in on the player and stack melee attacking them. You'd encounter packs of them in the wastes and unless you managed to gun a good few of them down it'd take about two turns for them to completely surround the player and just start laying into them. So the question is are they deadly to a guy in power armour? No? Would they ruin the day of someone wearing regular clothes? Yup; they're fast and swing their necks like giraffes, or swat you with a massive tongue before swallowing someone into their massive mouths. I'd say they're about a wrung under Centaurs in terms of a threat. Not much of an issue on their own or in small numbers, but when they're distracting you from a bigger Super Mutant, or come in a pack they're much more of a problem.

With that I probably should make another few smaller Floaters on 30mm bases so I can have a proper pack. I'm aiming at smaller skirmish games, so to an opponent armed with only melee weapons a couple of these could be a real problem.

^ Floater was made of flatworms.. most flatworms are parasites. while the final forms of floater looks alot like cobra it appears that one form of flatworm found in mammal colon seemed to be the preferred mutant feedstock. while Master's super mutants are sterile (and asexual!). Floater can!

Another FEV mutants that appears to reproduce is the Raccoonman http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Raccoon here. too bad they appeared only in FO1 holodisk not in actual game.

Also is Floater really vulnerable to fire ignited below its hovering head?

The actual in game Floaters have a more serpentine form with additional tentacles spilling out from the top of its neck. I just cave it the frills to update the style a little. Any creatures derived from FEV are supposed to be sterile, but its the big argument between the devs about just which creatures mutated from ambient FEV exposure or that were caused by whacky radiation. The common conception is that its a mix of both, particularly the mutations just coming from FEV which itself has mutated from radiation and other chemicals involved in the Great War. I assume that that's the case, with certain types of creatures being able to reproduce as the chemicals involved in mutating them had lower levels of FEV, or at least a different variant of it, than the pure FEV that the Super Mutants and other such types were created with.

I think the Racoons found there way into the game through one of the cut content mods. I can't remember, there was a few of them and I didn't play the first game as much as the second. The original games were a bit more light hearted than the newer ones, as was it the era of silly crap (Tim Cain liked shoving ghosts into everything IRC). Still, I was coincidently entertaining the idea of finding some racoon models today oddly enough.

The sacs have some sort of buoyant gas in them. Now its not necessarily a flammible one, but hell for gameplay mechanics that would be cool, so why not? Here, have a rule off the top of my head: if a Floater is killed with a wound roll of 6 its sacs explode causing a str 2 hit to any models within 3''. *I totally don't just make up rules like that on the fly during games. Balance? What balance? Oi I like cinematic effect as long as it doesn't screw over the other players too badly (I'm perfectly fine with crippling myself though, as I'm supposed to be impartial anyway, and having less models to deal with makes things easier. ...Uh, bar in games where my models are supposed to be my way of policing the players, but hell even then I'd rather be a Monty Haul guy than a total git).

Progress report. =P

Well the radio building has about 2/3rds of its interior finished, its really just finishing the hatch and door now (which I think is what I said I had still to do in the last update, but I've been fiddly about with other things). I've planned out the exterior walls a bit and right now am just working towards having the inside built up. I'll paint it in four parts then glue it all together and stick it on a base.

Here's the current planned layout.The empty panel by Bubba's where the door will go and the blank piece with the rectangle of plasticard in it is the hatch tile. Ah, and the glue cap's representing a second pillar (I ran out of balsa wood earlier when I took this picture and had to go out and buy some more). Those techy pieces aren't glued down, and probably never will be, but they're just to show that I don't intend to have the whole thing empty in actual games (I'll see about painting up some bits and bobs like those once everything's done).



The big cylinder tank sitting on the left of this shot is going to sit along side the building as a bit of tat. Oi, what's up with tat? The techy bits are from Secrets of the Third Reich and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (though I need to make my own consoles and tape machines at some point, as those ones are a bit 60's style rather than retro sci fi).

My order from Fenris turned up today too. Most of the bits I bought are bits of street furniture which will be worked on much later presumably if I ever get around to making a pre-war town (ie manhole covers for roads and side walks, fire hydrants, and dust bins), but it also included the communications tower that the building's actually connected to.



Argh, quit being so crap at taking pictures of white things on the fly me! ...Yeah that picture needs more contrast, but I'll have a better picture up tomorrow or something.

That's just the base frame of the tower without all the doodas attached at this stage for ease of painting. I've messed around with it a little to bring the modernish design more in line with the Fallout 3 concept art (spoilered below), which meant adding extra aerials and building up the base to change its silhouette. There's still more techy bits to add to it, but I'm leaving those off too right now (only the edges have the extras I mean). As far as wastelanding it up all I've done is tatted it up a little and added a little sniper's nest to the second level. I considered making it a bit more Raider styled, but I'd rather have a more generic gaming piece so I can use it whenever. Anyway, I'm liking this piece as it breaks up height of terrain on the board a little (maybe that's why there's a sniper's nest on it...). I have a few shacks that are tallish, but youknow its always nice to have more. Uh, in short that's little Bubba standing there on the base (though the perspective's screwed up a little, it really isn't quite that large).



Well that was today's progress. As can seen in the background of the pictures I have some crates and a market table being painted as well (I posted unpainted shots of them a bit ago), though really all that's left with the crates is to add some logos. Well, there's your lot as far as pics go for today. Off with ye. =P

The tower's a bit big, so I haven't been able to finish the painting of the frame just yet. As the picture of it without paint wasn't amazingly clear though, this should give a better indication of what the model actually looks like.



Messy, messy table right now. Eugh, its always like that when I'm building something. That pile in the back will be spare pieces and the tower's control building...

Anyway, still lots to do with bit, but the paint's still drying so I can't do much other than post a progress update (well I could work on something else, but Forrest Gump is on and that has my attention). .